Knicks @ Suns Friday game thread 12-15-2023

[AzCardsfan76]

If you think that then why do you watch? Based on this there is little reason for you to watch this team.

People can’t criticize bad play? This is a forum for open discussion, that’s how this entire thing works.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

I'm on team Metu 100

 

[Chaplin]

People can’t criticize bad play? This is a forum for open discussion, that’s how this entire thing works.

Did you read the post I responded to? And this is solely about the word "hateable."

 

[Suns_fan69]

I like the twist of having Goodwin set screens for booker. Defender is smaller on the blitz, and he's better in a 4 on 3 scenario than say Metu or Eubanks

 

[Mainstreet]

The Knicks bench has 10 points, the Suns bench with 3 points.

 

[AzCardsfan76]

Did you read the post I responded to?

Yes, he’s criticizing the Suns awful defense, injury prone players and he feels the suns traded away their future. Clear as crystal..

 

[AzCardsfan76]

The Knicks bench has 10 points, the Suns bench with 3 points.

Seems to be a reoccurring theme lately.

 

[Phrazbit]

When Book and KD are cooking they aren't boring, but man, "frustrating" is a good description.

They play at the 3rd slowest pace in the league and feature a ton of isolation... either that or "4 corners", stagnant offense. Guys don't cut, they don't move off the ball, they wait for the ball handler to move and throw the ball to them, with high odds of it getting stolen on the way. They also virtually never have fast breaks (something they were supposed to focus on).

I absolutely think they're boring.

 

[Mainstreet]

Seems to be a reoccurring theme lately.

Injuries have had a lot to do with it. No excuse for the turnovers and lack of defense.

 

[Chaplin]

They play at the 3rd slowest pace in the league and feature a ton of isolation... either that or "4 corners", stagnant offense. Guys don't cut, they don't move off the ball, they wait for the ball handler to move and throw the ball to them, with high odds of it getting stolen on the way. They also virtually never have fast breaks (something they were supposed to focus on).

I absolutely think they're boring.

Curious why you continually give them money to attend games? Are you just hoping that "This time it will be different"?

 

[DJ Tabooh]

I hate that we don’t get into our offense until 12 seconds left on the clock. We have more shot clock rushed shots than every one of our opponents.

And grab a damn defensive rebound!

We need to have an easier method to get our plays into guys (who still don’t seem to know where to be). We need to be playing faster. It’s annoying

 

[Phrazbit]

I hate that we don’t get into our offense until 12 seconds left on the clock. We have more shot clock rushed shots than every one of our opponents.

And grab a damn defensive rebound!

We all thought that Paul was the reason we played slow but we're playing even slower this year.

 

[Covert Rain]

Damn just caught up. Beal……damn it. He is going to be out for a week if it’s a bad sprain.

 

[Phrazbit]

Curious why you continually give them money to attend games? Are you just hoping that "This time it will be different"?

Great argument.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Offensive rebounds and turnovers. Sheesh. What a recurring bag of garbage.

 

[Chaplin]

Great argument.

Sounds like sarcasm, but I'm truly curious. If I thought the team was boring, I don't know if I'd spend 200 bucks for tix.

 

[JosiahLee]

What’s so frustrating is watching them play teams night in and night out with inferior talent dominate them. Even in their wins they fight and claw to barely to eke out a win (excluding when they play the Grizzlies).

The way KD has logged heavy minutes early in the season is also concerning. I’m afraid he may be on a CP3 trajectory - breaking down come playoff time.

 

[Chaplin]

What’s so frustrating is watching them play teams night in and night out with inferior talent dominate them. Even in their wins they fight and claw to barely to eke out a win (excluding when they play the Grizzlies).

The way KD has logged heavy minutes early in the season is also concerning. I’m afraid he may be on a CP3 trajectory - breaking down come playoff time.

But they aren't dominated--the Suns are beating themselves. Unforced turnovers, no energy on rebounds, no movement on defense...teams don't have to dominate to win. Ask the Spurs.

 

[Vacard]

I don’t see this team going on long winning streaks. We are a pkay-in team and have future assets

 

[Phrazbit]

Sounds like sarcasm, but I'm truly curious. If I thought the team was boring, I don't know if I'd spend 200 bucks for tix.

I know it's not sarcasm, it is just disingenuous.

You want to talk about the team on the court? Am I wrong or is critiquing my choice to go to games a more enjoyable conversation for you than talking about this mess we're watching?

 

[Mainstreet]

What’s so frustrating is watching them play teams night in and night out with inferior talent dominate them. Even in their wins they fight and claw to barely to eke out a win (excluding when they play the Grizzlies).

The way KD has logged heavy minutes early in the season is also concerning. I’m afraid he may be on a CP3 trajectory - breaking down come playoff time.

This invariably leads to questions about the coaching.

 

[AzCardsfan76]

Jusuf has been our most consistent player over the last few games. He’s really starting to come into his role on this team.

 

[JosiahLee]

But they aren't dominated--the Suns are beating themselves. Unforced turnovers, no energy on rebounds, no movement on defense...teams don't have to dominate to win. Ask the Spurs.

They consistently get abused when teams commit to the pick and roll and penetrate to the paint.

And I’d like to believe they are beating themselves too but that narrative gets old when they repeatedly play like that.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

10 turnovers with 3 minutes left in half.

 

[Phrazbit]

This invariably leads to questions about the coaching.

I question the offensive and defensive philosophies far more than I question the minute usage.

If we were not so painfully average on both ends then we might be able to let the stars get some rest here and there.