Jalen Thompson extended

[Chopper0080]

Sounds like we not only got him kicked up but at a really really good price.

That is what it sounds like. I don't know who is really left in the S market other than Bates over the next couple years, but this seems like a pretty even deal.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Now extend Allen.

Meh, only if it's extremely team friendly. I'd like to see him do more before giving him serious money.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Pasch said two people he talked to recently were saying he's surpassed Budda. That's becoming a less and less controversial opinion.

 

[Chopper0080]

and he will be 27 when he is a free agent again.

 

[GatorAZ]

Pasch said two people he talked to recently were saying he's surpassed Budda. That's becoming a less and less controversial opinion.

Pasch is an elite PBP guy but takes his opinions and sources with a grain of salt. Smart deal for the Cards here nonetheless.

 

[TJ]

He's going to earn that money tackling receivers after burning our CBs to a crisp

 

[Chopper0080]

Meh, only if it's extremely team friendly. I'd like to see him do more before giving him serious money.

He is a little different type of player, but I would give Zach Allen a Sebastian Joseph-Day 3yr 24 mil dollar deal in a second.

 

[Proximo]

Meh, only if it's extremely team friendly. I'd like to see him do more before giving him serious money.

I don’t get what people see in Allen.

is it just because he is a draft pick that doesn’t completely suck? To me he is easily replaceable.

 

[Dayman]

Excellent news all around!

Kudos to Keim for getting this done.

 

[BigRedRage]

Man....what a rich history we have had with safeties for the past 15 years or so

 

[BritCard]

Pro Bowl next year for sure. I've come to the conclusion half of it is name recognition and where you sit in the salary table.

Half the NFL fans seeing this and thinking "Oh he must be good".

Imagine what this backfield could be if Wilson, Murphy and Mullen fulfil their potential.

 

[Stout]

Excellent business.

 

[bankybruce]

I wonder how much of the $17 million this year was used. The cap number could be lower than the $13 million too depending on how its structured.

 

[kerouac9]

He is a little different type of player, but I would give Zach Allen a Sebastian Joseph-Day 3yr 24 mil dollar deal in a second.

Allen makes a ton of sense as a guy who has played through injuries and would trade some upside for security and a signing bonus. He's a 3rd round pick and didn't really get life-changing money. If he tears another ligament in the first half of the season, he probably never will.

Both Thompson and Allen are opportunities to sign contracts the player is likely to outplay.

I don’t get what people see in Allen.

is it just because he is a draft pick that doesn’t completely suck? To me he is easily replaceable.

Well, we needed multiple defensive linemen this offseason and couldn't find anyone who was better than him. The argument is probably that he's a B- DL when healthy and you can find those guys, but they're usually a little more pricey and you have to deal with the open market.

Pro Bowl next year for sure. I've come to the conclusion half of it is name recognition and where you sit in the salary table.

Half the NFL fans seeing this and thinking "Oh he must be good".

Imagine what this backfield could be if Wilson, Murphy and Mullen fulfil their potential.

He's got to compete with Budda at the same position, though. Also, if this defense sucks or is good in DVOA but bad in standard stats or collapses again down the stretch that's a tough argument to make.

Thompson has been better than his draft status and he caught the attention of lots of Cards fans last year. But he wasn't doing anything to be nationally recognized. He'll have to take a major step forward, which I hope he does.

 

[Russ Smith]

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Nice figured it was time to extend him

 

[Dback Jon]

So does Keim get credit from the board for not only selecting him in the 5th round, but for extending him?

 

[Chopper0080]

I don’t get what people see in Allen.

is it just because he is a draft pick that doesn’t completely suck? To me he is easily replaceable.

4 sacks. 10 QB knockdowns. 18 pressures. On 70% of snaps from as a 3-4 DE.

6 sacks. 5 QB knockdowns. 16 pressures. On 59% of snaps from as a 4-3 DT.

The top player is Zach Allen, 25, and the second is Quinnen Williams also 25.

 

[Chopper0080]

So does Keim get credit from the board for not only selecting him in the 5th round, but for extending him?

Absolutely. 100% Keim win.

 

[bankybruce]

4 sacks. 10 QB knockdowns. 18 pressures. On 70% of snaps from as a 3-4 DE.

6 sacks. 5 QB knockdowns. 16 pressures. On 59% of snaps from as a 4-3 DT.

The top player is Zach Allen, 25, and the second is Quinnen Williams also 25.

That's crazy! Good stats!

How do they compare against the run?

 

[Chopper0080]

Kenny Clark at 17.5 mil per year.

4 sacks. 9 QB knockdowns. 28 pressures. 78% of snaps.

 

[Solar7]

So does Keim get credit from the board for not only selecting him in the 5th round, but for extending him?

Yes, one of his rare wins.

I'm happy with this extension and the relative cost control for it.

 

[Chopper0080]

That's crazy! Good stats!

How do they compare against the run?

Kenny Clark: 27 solo tackles. 6 TFLs. Missed tackle % 12.7.
Quinnen Williams: 36 solo tackles. 7 TFLs. Missed tackle % 5.4.
Zach Allen: 30 solo tackles. 5 TFLs. MIssed tackle % 7.7.

 

[Shane]

Kenny Clark: 27 solo tackles. 6 TFLs. Missed tackle % 12.7.
Quinnen Williams: 36 solo tackles. 7 TFLs. Missed tackle % 5.4.
Zach Allen: 30 solo tackles. 5 TFLs. MIssed tackle % 7.7.

Def needs to be extended

 

[Chopper0080]

Like K9 said. Signing Allen now gives you the chance for him to outperform his deal. We are in the same situation as we were with Markus Golden the first time. Give them guy a deal a little early that isn't tough to get out of if he doesn't and is a steal if he smashes.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Excellent 5th round pick! Well deserved!