Krangodnzr
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Because schedules get harder...same reason for Kliff "falling off".
Hey, Kyler
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Explain Baker Mayfield's far more consistent performance for OU then?
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Kyler really has no excuse for not getting that big contract from the Cards because contrary to popular belief, it does not take much for the Cardinals to reward a player at a high profile position. Jake Plummer won a playoff game against the hated Cowboys and I believe for that day and age the Cards gave him a hell of a new contract. Kyler has a ton of talent... simmer down boy and throw down like an actual Texas kid and stop wanting when you are fully capable of earning that if you apply yourself 
I just wish one of the geniuses posting on this board would maybe think that the fact that Cardindals run defense sucks and pass defense is suspect at best might (Just Might) be a problem.
It's great when the Cards are putting up point in the 30's and Kyler is doing great. But can anyone tell me how many games this team wins if the they put up less than 20 points?
I think high school running backs could get 10 yards on the Cards run defense. It's all great to try and bash the Kyler Murray kid but as I keep saying. How many games would the Cards lose with (Chosen Rosen).
At some point posters on this board are going to start wondering why Steve Keim got paid even though the guy doesn't seem to be able to put a good Total defense on the field to save his life.
I will apologize to those posters on this board that believe Steve Keim has given the Cardinals the greatest defenses in the history of football. I know that Vance Joseph is the greatest defensive coordinator I've ever seen. I remember 2 years ago when other teams tight ends Never caught a pass (sarcasm)... Maybe just maybe the reason the Cards struggle might not be ALL on kyler murray (Just Sayin)
It's great when the Cards are putting up point in the 30's and Kyler is doing great. But can anyone tell me how many games this team wins if the they put up less than 20 points?
I think high school running backs could get 10 yards on the Cards run defense. It's all great to try and bash the Kyler Murray kid but as I keep saying. How many games would the Cards lose with (Chosen Rosen).
At some point posters on this board are going to start wondering why Steve Keim got paid even though the guy doesn't seem to be able to put a good Total defense on the field to save his life.
I will apologize to those posters on this board that believe Steve Keim has given the Cardinals the greatest defenses in the history of football. I know that Vance Joseph is the greatest defensive coordinator I've ever seen. I remember 2 years ago when other teams tight ends Never caught a pass (sarcasm)... Maybe just maybe the reason the Cards struggle might not be ALL on kyler murray (Just Sayin)
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Stupid analogy.
Warner was WORTH the $$ and worth pursuing by other teams. 49ers invited him in, he accepted. BFD.
Kyler just imploded and expects to be paid for future success. FUNKDAT. Ship him to some AFC loser who will soon regret acquiring him.
PACardsFan
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Absolute stupid comment. But that’s ok. When Murray is killing it & taking another team to lofty levels, no one would hear from you.
jmt
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Well I didn’t want Warner but I think we should keep KM
gamebird98
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He's no Warner!
PACardsFan
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He’s like 11 years younger than the day that Warner signed with us. He’s far more talented at 24 than Warner ever was. He just needs to continue to develop & MATURE.
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Ryan Lindley playoff passer rating 44.3
Kyler Murray playoff passer rating 40.9
Would you give Ryan Lindley a couple hundred million in guaranteed money?
Kyler Murray playoff passer rating 40.9
Would you give Ryan Lindley a couple hundred million in guaranteed money?
gamebird98
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Continue to develop?...he regressed dramatically at the end of last season.
Come on. At least be honest.
Murray never played with " the worst team in franchise history "
And if we are really being honest, kliff Kingsbury did more to elevate the team than kyler.
Evidence???
Kliff posted a .666 win percentage with colt McCoy
Which means he would have pulled off 10 or 11 wins with just about any semi competent QB starting...
How far did Murray and his transcendent greatness surpass that?
Simple fact...there is verifiable Evidence kliff can win without Murray in the nfl.....while there is zero evidence Murray can win in the NFL without kliff.
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Man I really hope you see the irony in a guy calling others stupid while he compares a guy under contract to a veteran free agent.
PACardsFan
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Asinine post. Murray has played GREAT in far more games than Ryan Lindley has EVER played in.
PACardsFan
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Your PS is stupid because the RECENT QB’s worth a damn like Mahomes & Allen have been extended after 3 years. Just like what Murray is asking for. And, as I have already demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt, Murray has already outperformed what Allen has done their first 3 years. And Murray has FAR more to do with our success than KK has. If you get your way, and Murray moves on, then you will be proven wrong. That I’m sure of.
gamebird98
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Sigh.....
But yet, you didn't compare Murray to Allen, or any other guy on a rookie contract.
You in fact, jumped in with both feet and compared a guy still under contract to a super bowl winning HOF caliber quarterback who was a free agent.
The comparison is ridiculous. The two situations are not even remotely similar.
But hey, I get that you have a man crush on kyler,.... I too saw The Empire Strikes Back, and also thought ewoks were cute.
But then you kinda get over it and move on.
Stout
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C'mon, man, be realistic. PHYSICALLY talented? Yes. Talented as an NFL QB? Laughable.
PACardsFan
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If you think that Murray’s talents as an NFL QB are laughable, then you are laughable.
C'mon, man, be realistic. PHYSICALLY talented? Yes. Talented as an NFL QB? Laughable.
Nothing to do with man crushes & EVERYTHING to do with waiting a lifetime for a QBOF. So sign the extremely talented kid & move on like you said.
Isn’t that was contracts are based off of, their potential???? Wasn’t that argument made for Buddha’s extension on this board?? But when Kyler is involved it’s different…
Warner wasn’t even in the NFL at 24
C'mon, man, be realistic. PHYSICALLY talented? Yes. Talented as an NFL QB? Laughable.
Solar7
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I think contracts are based off of success and a continued expectation of said success.
When contracts are made based off of "potential," they're lower contracts.
Agree. We have to pay a QB....and boom or bust with Murray will only be known with time.
But honestly, if I were keim...I'd call kyler into my office, show him a fantastic contract, then hand him a list of experienced reputable agents.
Tell him as soon as he fires that chump he has and retains an agent that knows the right way to do business....the contract is his.
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No, instead he was tearing it up in the Arena League, becoming one of the league's best players ever which got him noticed by several NFL teams.
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He had his 1st (only?) 4 td 0 int game against the Browns on the road when Kliff didn't coach. And apparently had more say in the play calling.
He did that with a guy calling plays the 1st time...ever?
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The defense had 5 sacks, an INT, and forced two fumbles. But then again...it was against the 8-9 Browns.
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