Kliff is THE DUMBEST coach in the NFL

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

This is revisionism. 4 games ago people were hailing what a great job he did this off season.

It's not his fault Kliff can't adjust or Vance won't play Collins.

That’s because the spit and bandaids were holding. But they didn’t ultimately.

 

[Arz101]

Is Murray better than Burrow?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Is Murray better than Burrow?

Talent wise…yes.

 

[Arz101]

Talent wise…yes.

Talent got a million coaches and GM fired in this league

 

[TJ]

I guess my point is the Cards have to make it clear Kyler is the guy, or if he's not as you said open to trade. They can't expect to recruit free agents without making a commitment. My suspicion is unless he finishes the season even worse than he has been of late, they will commit to him because they understand it's important to have something to sell free agents beyond warm(hot) weather

The Cards don’t have to do anything with Kyler. The team would have at least two years of control over him after this season, not counting the tag. And the whole thing about recruitIng FAs is irrelevant. It could still do so with or without Kyler’s extension. Cap space is more important than that

 

[kerouac9]

I think there are some poor play calls every game and that his infatuation with horizontal plays is an anchor. But kliffs real failings are horrendous game management, lack of accountability/discipline, generally not having his team ready to play, and general failure of leadership. That’s how you have so much consistency in late season swoons across LITERALLY EVERY SEASON he’s been a head coach. I mean, there isn’t even a single outlier of positive surge end of season. Not one.

The lack of prep for game situations is mystifying.

I blame Kyler mostly for bad two-minute offense, and I’m generally more forgiving than many here on fourth down calls. But the situational stuff is very bad.

It seems like we’ve gotten better about having to call time outs in the past few games, but I could be wrong about that.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Talent got a million coaches and GM fired in this league

Yep.

 

[BritCard]

How did Keim do his job? He let our best, most impactful young player on the defense walk for a 1 year deal. His big ticket signing was on a guy who can’t stay healthy. His other big ticket was on a WR who looks like he doesn’t really care about football. He “fixed” the kicker spot by signing one mediocre guy to replace another. His draft picks have been almost completely busts. His goal was to go out and get leaders and failed. He went another year with his handpicked DC who isn’t all that.

He made two good trades to get Ertz and Hudson and some good 1 year cheap pick ups, but He established no foundation for the future because anyone we do have that played well this year will be a FA and didnt sign any of them to an extension. In our ALL IN off-season, it looks like we MIGHT get a wild card loss and more questions than answers for the future.

Overall, in a make it or break it year we’re looking at an immediate return of okay but bleak for the future. That’s a solid C grade, as far as I’m concerned.

What job is that? This is most certainly a Keim issue as it is Kliff & Kyler. We’re still weak where games are won most, the trenches. The trenches have been weak before the Kliff & Kyler era.

I’ve seen you slander our lack of pass rush. I wonder why we lack at it so much? Is it because Keim has drafted only ONE EDGE or IDL since he was hired? With that one having character concerns on top of being an underachiever in college. Oh, that’s right, we drafted another one, but of course he was stupidly drafted as a ILB & once he moved to EDGE & started flourishing, the GM refused to resign him.


Kyler playing like ass & Kliff coaching like ass does not prevent Keim general-managing like ass.

It's the same players everyone was congratulating him on 3 games ago.

There are lots of reasons Keim should have gone before now. What he did this season isn't one of them.

Keim can't control Kyler playing like ass and Kliff not being able to adjust and win without peak Kyler.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Live video of the Arizona Cardinals making the playoffs:

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[The6]

App

This really isn’t that hard to understand.

Lol. Look at his name genius.

Lol. That's a knee slapper

 

[TheCardFan]

Freaking clown.

100% - what an idiot.

10-5 record
Playoff team
9th winningest coach in franchise history in less than 3 years (lowest games coached out of top 10)
Offense is tied for 3rd most TD's in NFL

I could go on and on about the positives but so many will pull it back to the negative.

Enjoy.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

100% - what an idiot.

10-5 record
Playoff team
9th winningest coach in franchise history in less than 3 years (lowest games coached out of top 10)
Offense is tied for 3rd most TD's in NFL

I could go on and on about the positives but so many will pull it back to the negative.

Enjoy.

9th winningest coach with a .500 record on a is not an attribute.

We have eyes…Kliff ain’t it.

 

[oaken1]

Sorry? Its would you like some "cheese with that wine". Get your stuff straight before you mock someone.

But....he IS cheese....

Cheesebeef to the rookies...
Cheesey to those of us that luvs him....

But Cheese none the less...

 

[Stout]

This is revisionism. 4 games ago people were hailing what a great job he did this off season.

It's not his fault Kliff can't adjust or Vance won't play Collins.

Not really. I was grudgingly giving him credit because I had to. I mean, we were winning, so continuing to bag on everything wasn't on. It still didn't make me a Keim believer.

 

[Russ Smith]

The Cards don’t have to do anything with Kyler. The team would have at least two years of control over him after this season, not counting the tag. And the whole thing about recruitIng FAs is irrelevant. It could still do so with or without Kyler’s extension. Cap space is more important than that

Sure money is a big thing but good players want to play on good teams with other good players. I'm not saying we have to throw money at him I'm saying we can't act like we're going to trade him and expect key free agents to want to sign here unless they see a plan on who's replacing him

 

[oaken1]

I think there are some poor play calls every game and that his infatuation with horizontal plays is an anchor. But kliffs real failings are horrendous game management, lack of accountability/discipline, generally not having his team ready to play, and general failure of leadership. That’s how you have so much consistency in late season swoons across LITERALLY EVERY SEASON he’s been a head coach. I mean, there isn’t even a single outlier of positive surge end of season. Not one.

The lack of discipline is what kills me... the oline on its own made enough mental errors to cost us that game.

On the flip side... that penalty on Murphy was straight ********...
When I coached I taught my guys to do it just like that, but most guys cant..... I hope when Murph got to the sidelines someone with authority gave him props and told him to keep covering like that every single snap.

We need a center... Hudson is older and can't stay on the field... max Garcia gets worse the more he plays the position....
Nothing in the game affects kylers play as drastically as losing rodney hudson....so we need to draft a guy so kyler has a rodney hudson for the next 10 years......

I know, I know,... last year...creed!!

Whatever..that's past...we did what we did, so what do we do next?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The lack of prep for game situations is mystifying.

I blame Kyler mostly for bad two-minute offense, and I’m generally more forgiving than many here on fourth down calls. But the situational stuff is very bad.

It seems like we’ve gotten better about having to call time outs in the past few games, but I could be wrong about that.

I believe in the last few games we’ve had at least one instance where we had a delay of game penalty coming outta a timeout.

 

[Harry]

This was a poorly coached game on both sides of the ball. Needing 2 scores they March down the field with the 5 yard passes Indy wants them to throw. Then they could have taken the FG at the 35 but within an easy end zone throw they decide to take the field goal with 45 seconds left on the theory they could recover and throw deep. Despite they just finished a drive on which they couldn’t throw deep.

On defense they finally figured out the blitz was getting to Wentz, then on the critical play, the Cards used a 3 man rush that had just burned them in a previous game. If you don’t learn from your mistakes you don’t win in this league. Hold them to a FG and that last drive would have been meaningful.

The lower coaches didn’t distinguish themselves. O-line play was poor. Special teams were a disaster. They did blitz sometimes but I saw very few line stunts. They did a good job on Taylor only to let Wentz beat them.

 

[TheCardFan]

Kliff doesn't kick FG's. Make the FG's and the extra point...we win the game.

Kliff doesn't throw down the field into very tight windows on 3rd and 4th in short. Guys are open for shorter throws.

That being said - Kyler is the best franchise QB we have ever had. I will take all the good with a few more things he needs to learn.

 

[nashman]

No I don't but this isn't Keims issue. Keim did his job this year. This is on players and coaches.

More than anyone (as much as I've blamed Kliff) this is Kyler's fault.

He's lost 4 of his last 5 and in those 4 games his passer rating has been about 73. In the games he's won it was 125. His comp % has dropped from 75% to 62%.

Don't need to look far really to see why we suddenly suck.

While some of it is Kyler, much more of it is on coaching and the Defense or should I say lack thereof… 82 points given up in the last 3 games. 30 points to the freaking 1 win Lions that’s not a Kyler issue. And KKs playcalling the last month has been atrocious as well as knowing when to take the points or go for it and not make it… Tons of blame to go around not to mention missing key offensive guys! And this D has been an absolute joke ever since Watt went down!

 

[Stout]

Kliff doesn't kick FG's. Make the FG's and the extra point...we win the game.

Kliff doesn't throw down the field into very tight windows on 3rd and 4th in short. Guys are open for shorter throws.

That being said - Kyler is the best franchise QB we have ever had. I will take all the good with a few more things he needs to learn.

Actually, no, not yet. He has all the potential to be better than Neil Lomax, but he isn't as good yet.

 

[speedy]

While some of it is Kyler, much more of it is on coaching and the Defense or should I say lack thereof… 82 points given up in the last 3 games. 30 points to the freaking 1 win Lions that’s not a Kyler issue. And KKs playcalling the last month has been atrocious as well as knowing when to take the points or go for it and not make it… Tons of blame to go around not to mention missing key offensive guys! And this D has been an absolute joke ever since Watt went down!

To be fair here, turnovers put the D in some bad positions. So yes, the offense definitely shares some blame in the 30 allowed.

 

[THESMEL]

I have kliffs back, just want him To run more And more early, dont think he us the dumbest coach, don’t know how to qualify that. Wilkes? If we ain’t got his back who does? I’m critical of my coach, but others better not touch him. Haha

yea I hate the cowboys, save it all up and blow up America’s team, all will be well in Cardinal land.

 

[slanidrac16]

Kliff doesn't kick FG's. Make the FG's and the extra point...we win the game.

Kliff doesn't throw down the field into very tight windows on 3rd and 4th in short. Guys are open for shorter throws

This one sticks in my craw. Kliff didn’t throw it but did he call it? Or did Kyler audible? Either way a first down was the important thing. At that point 4 yards were more important than 20. It would have kept our opening drive going and kept Taylor on the bench.

That being said - Kyler is the best franchise QB we have ever had. I will take all the good with a few more things he needs to learn.

 

[slanidrac16]

I have kliffs back, just want him To run more And more early, dont think he us the dumbest coach, don’t know how to qualify that. Wilkes? If we ain’t got his back who does? I’m critical of my coach, but others better not touch him. Haha

yea I hate the cowboys, save it all up and blow up America’s team, all will be well in Cardinal land.

Kingsbury came out with the perfect opening drive until someone got impatient on 3rd and 4. Was it Kliff or Kyler? Whoever it was it was the wrong time to try a lower pct. throw to Mr. Dropsie.