2019 Draft Prospects...

[SunnyBaller]

I've seen culiver from Texas tech as high as 4 in mock drafts and I got to say he looks pretty unimpressive in every game I've got to watch this tournament

 

[sunsfan88]

I've seen culiver from Texas tech as high as 4 in mock drafts and I got to say he looks pretty unimpressive in every game I've got to watch this tournament

Just cost Texas Tech with his incredibly low IQ defense on the game tying 3 by Virginia at the end of the 2nd half in regulation.

 

[Mainstreet]

Mfiondu Kabengele is entering the 2019 draft. I've only seen him play twice but for some reason he sticks in my memory.

Perhaps the Suns should consider drafting him in the second round.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/florida-state-seminoles/os-sp-kabengele-20190409-story.html

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Mfiondu Kabengele is entering the 2019 draft. I've only seen him play twice but for some reason he sticks in my memory.

Perhaps the Suns should consider drafting him in the second round.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/florida-state-seminoles/os-sp-kabengele-20190409-story.html

Dikembe relative, right?

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

Predictable. Hopefully it doesn't matter.

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[ColdPickleNachos]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Predictable. Hopefully it doesn't matter.

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Bad foreshadowing for lottery.

 

[devilalum]

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So what’s the math problem to figure out the odds of them getting a top 3 pick?


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[ColdPickleNachos]

So what’s the math problem to figure out the odds of them getting a top 3 pick?


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It's about 40% odds.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

Bad foreshadowing for lottery.

Maybe not...We lost the Milwaukee coin flip last year and got the #1 pick later that offseason.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Maybe not...We lost the Milwaukee coin flip last year and got the #1 pick later that offseason.

Ah that’s right. Man I think the suns have lost every coin flip they’ve ever had, haven’t they?

 

[Hoop Head]

I think people get too wrapped up in the odds. I know there is only a 40% chance of landing in the top 3 but that's also higher than any other team, except New York and Cleveland. So while the Suns odds aren't great they have the best odds of anyone, or they are tied with the Cavs and Knicks for the best odds to land in the top 3.

I do understand looking at it the other way but I think it's better to look at the draft optimistically than pessimistically since we did actually luck out last year. Hopefully the bad luck was left behind in the first 50 years of Suns history.

I will get a little superstitious though and think the Suns should send JJ to the draft lottery again. He helped get us the #1 pick last year so might as well go for that again.

 

[Mainstreet]

Dikembe relative, right?

Yup. Mfiondu Kabengele is the nephew of Dikembe Mutombo.

I think he has a chance to play in the NBA and he has the measurements at 6'10" and around 250.

 

[1Sun]

Found a pretty dead-on comparison for Ja Morant:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAVegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw17ZoMOGxqLo-XU4VUzVyn_

It would be a mistake for the Suns to rely on Ja Morant as the immediate answer at point guard, just as it was a mistake for the Grizzlies to rely on Daniels in the same manner after drafting him #4 overall.

 

[JerkFace]

Found a pretty dead-on comparison for Ja Morant:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAVegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw17ZoMOGxqLo-XU4VUzVyn_

It would be a mistake for the Suns to rely on Ja Morant as the immediate answer at point guard, just as it was a mistake for the Grizzlies to rely on Daniels in the same manner after drafting him #4 overall.

It’s a good comparison unless you’ve ever actually watched them both play.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yup. Mfiondu Kabengele is the nephew of Dikembe Mutombo.

I think he has a chance to play in the NBA and he has the measurements at 6'10" and around 250.

He needs a jump shot. But he’s got the body, athleticism and attitude from the few games I saw. Still kinda raw.

 

[Mainstreet]

He needs a jump shot. But he’s got the body, athleticism and attitude from the few games I saw. Still kinda raw.

He might be worth the gamble though for a second round pick.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

It’s a good comparison unless you’ve ever actually watched them both play.

It's a crap comparison even without watching them both play. Morant is an elite passer and Daniels wasn't. It's even worse when you have seen them both.

 

[1Sun]

It's a crap comparison even without watching them both play. Morant is an elite passer and Daniels wasn't. It's even worse when you have seen them both.

Nobody who turns the ball over as much as Morant should ever be called an "elite passer".

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

Nobody who turns the ball over as much as Morant should ever be called an "elite passer".

The top 10 in the entire NBA in turnovers per game last year:

James Harden
Russell Westbrook
Devin Booker
Trae Young
John Wall
Giannis
LeBron
Joel Embiid
Ben Simmons
Luka Doncic

http://www.espn.com/nba/seasonleaders/_/league/nba/sort/avgTurnovers/order/true

 

[Yuma]

The top 10 in the entire NBA in turnovers per game last year:

James Harden
Russell Westbrook
Devin Booker
Trae Young
John Wall
Giannis
LeBron
Joel Embiid
Ben Simmons
Luka Doncic

http://www.espn.com/nba/seasonleaders/_/league/nba/sort/avgTurnovers/order/true

These guys have the ball in their hands a LOT, and face double teams more than most players. There will be turn overs based on just the amount of time they have the ball.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

These guys have the ball in their hands a LOT, and face double teams more than most players. There will be turn overs based on just the amount of time they have the ball.

Exactly. Just like Morant. Which is why the turnover thing is way overblown. He does make some bad turnovers, but so did even Nash. That happens when you create that often and are that key to your team's offensive game plan.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Nash averaged nearly 4 turnovers a game during his big run with Phoenix. Of course, he was getting double-digit assists as well.

 

[Hoop Head]

The top 10 in the entire NBA in turnovers per game last year:

James Harden
Russell Westbrook
Devin Booker
Trae Young
John Wall
Giannis
LeBron
Joel Embiid
Ben Simmons
Luka Doncic

http://www.espn.com/nba/seasonleaders/_/league/nba/sort/avgTurnovers/order/true

Surprised to see 2 Philly players on there. You would think that would effect them more than it does but they won 50+ games this year and are the 3rd seed in the East.

With the others though you have Harden, Westbrook, Giannis, and Lebron who have all been MVP's at some time in their careers, assuming Giannis wins this years, and no one brings up their turnovers very often at all. If Curry and Durant weren't playing together then you'd probably see them on there also and then it would have every MVP from the last decade with the exception of Derrick Rose, who we all know is often injured and isn't much of a starter anymore.

 

[Raze]

Deep Sleeper: Jalen Lecque (pending eligibility request as a 5th year senior)

6-4 PG/SG. Crazy athletic. Insane hops. Goes to the basket hard. Intense. Plays with a massive chip on his shoulder. Makes jaw dropping plays at the rim.

RAW as all get. Needs work on his shot: right elbow needs tightening and his ball rotation is ugly. But it's fixable. Tons to learn. He's projected in the 2nd round. Way more upside than Bowman and Edwards as far as 2nd round "PG" prospects. (None of them are PGs by my definition, but then I'm fairly certain true PGs are going the way of the dinosaurs).

No, he isn't really a great fit for the Suns right now. I'm just prospect watching. I think this kid has some IT to him.

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