football karma
Happy in the pretense of knowledge
- Joined
- Jul 22, 2002
- Posts
- 14,930
- Reaction score
- 13,285
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
its not a perfect comp, but its a comp for DJ
Todd Gurley gets paid
- Thread starter football karma
- Start date
its not a perfect comp, but its a comp for DJ
GatorAZ
feed hopkins
DJ should get more considering less wear & tear.
Stupid deal.
GatorAZ
feed hopkins
As in he hasn’t proven enough?
Correct, IMHO.
Gurley has more rushing yards in his three seasons than DJ has total yards. Yes, DJ was injured, but in reality Gurley has had 3 outstanding seasons, DJ just one
Gurley has had 2 outstanding season and one totally less than average one...
TheCardFan
Things have changed.
Check their ages as well. The dreaded age 30 is much more relevant to DJ/Cardinals on this next deal.
Edit: Love DJ but your previous year also has a lot to do with how much you get paid.
Edit: Love DJ but your previous year also has a lot to do with how much you get paid.
GatorAZ
feed hopkins
Mileage is more significant than age.
- Joined
- Jan 2, 2003
- Posts
- 88,882
- Reaction score
- 61,902
how pissed is Aaron Donald at this point and what is the Rams hold up getting him signed over these other guys?
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
RugbyMuffin
ASFN IDOL
- Joined
- Apr 30, 2003
- Posts
- 30,485
- Reaction score
- 4,876
Offensive head coach, and the team is in LA. They have to be entertaining, and most casual football fans enjoy offense a hell of a lot more than defense.
But, that is just my opinion on what the Rams are thinking, I certainly do not agree with it, since Aaron Donald is one of the best players in football right now. He is just unbelievably gifted, and a student of the game as well.
He deserves to be paid over guys like flippin' Brandon Cooks.
But, whatever, maybe Donald is a free agent next year, and with the Cardinasl Cap room situation, we can sign him.
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
GatorAZ
feed hopkins
The Rams still have around 60 mil in cap space for the 2019 season. I’m guessing Donald will get a big deal frontloaded for that first year.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Assertion without evidence. Priest Holmes had less than 500 carries in four years with the Ravens and his career still ended at age 30.
GatorAZ
feed hopkins
Spinal cord injuries tend to do that.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Chester Taylor had fewer than 400 carries with Baltimore before signing with the Vikings. After just 3 years and 561 carries, his YPC dropped by almost a full yard.
Chester Taylor had fewer than 400 carries with Baltimore before signing with the Vikings. After just 3 years and 561 carries, his YPC dropped by almost a full yard.
Thomas Jones had fewer than 400 carries with Arizona before signing with Tampa and then Chicago. After just 3 years and 691 carries with Tampa and Chicago, his YPC increased by almost a full yard.
GatorAZ
feed hopkins
RB’s have been productive at 30 or older; Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, Curtis Martin, Tony Dorsett, Tiki Barber, Ricky Watters, Warrick Dunn. So I don’t believe it’s a sure thing he falls of a cliff considering the lack of tread on his body and lack of significant lower body injuries. DJ turns 30 in December of the 2021-22 season.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Thomas Jones had fewer than 400 carries with Arizona before signing with Tampa and the Chicago. After just 3 years and 691 carries with Tampa and Chicago, his YPC increased by almost a full yard.
Okay, but this is a conversation about whether a lighter workload extends the productive part of a back's career meaningfully. Thomas Jones averaged 3.8 YPC after his 30th birthday season, but really fell off a cliff at 31.
I agree, age is also a major factor for RBs. I just like to mess with you some times.
Still if the Cardinals sign DJ to a 4 year extension and he falls off the cliff in the final year, it won't matter much. They can cut him with little dead cap space.
kerouac9
Klowned by Keim
Warrick Dunn was only okay to begin with. He averaged 3.8 YPC after his 30th birthday season.
Barry Sanders retired after turning 30.
Adrian Peterson averaged 3.1 YPC after his age 30 season.
Walter Payton and Doresett retired 30 years ago.
Tiki Barber is a good example. He was good for 1 season after his 30th birthday, and then retired. So did Curtis Martin.
So, Tiki Barber and Thomas Jones are clearly the outliers in this conversation.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
I'm better than Mulli!
How old was he and for how long did he maintain that heightened level of play?
Thomas Jones had fewer than 400 carries with Arizona before signing with Tampa and then Chicago. After just 3 years and 691 carries with Tampa and Chicago, his YPC increased by almost a full yard.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
Thomas Jones had fewer than 400 carries with Arizona before signing with Tampa and then Chicago. After just 3 years and 691 carries with Tampa and Chicago, his YPC increased by almost a full yard.
He also broke his hand answering a phone, so there's that.
