Browns going QB at 1 & 4 ????

[don7031]

What's happening in this scenario is the Browns are taking highest ceiling Josh Allen at number 1 overall. But acknowledging that Allen has the lowest floor and is the most likely of the four quarterbacks to be a bust they hedge their bets by taking a second quarterback.

If Allen is a bust, they have a Plan B.

If Allen works out then they can flip the other QB for picks or whatever.

The other benefit is that the Browns won't be facing the potential of paying three guy (Myles Garrett and their two first rounders) top of the position money in five years.

 

[Goldfield]

Nope

 

[HerefortheCards]

No

 

[Goldfield]

Then again it is the Browns

 

[TJ]

Nothing says, “I have no faith in my scouting department and no idea what I’m doing” more than drafting two QBs with two first round picks, especially in the Top-4. The Browns were 0-16 because it has multiple holes all over the roster. It has an opportunity to draft two premiere players at different positions.

 

[SECTION 11]

I hate these weird click bait threads.

 

[don7031]

It is five days to the draft and the Browns have been on the clock since December. Who are they taking?

The reason people started mocking Saquon Barkley to the Browns is because nothing definitive has come out of Cleveland.

The Cowboys went two quarterbacks with Troy Aikman first overall in 1989 and Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft which became the first overall pick in 1990.

Yes, the Browns need multiple players, but they really need to pick the right quarterback.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I actually heard scouts on the radio talking about this today

 

[Cheesebeef]

I hate these weird click bait threads.

Whoa

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Allen or Mayfield at 1, then Lauletta in the 2nd. Nothing wrong with that. Safety net for future, injury, or trade bait in future.

 

[NJCardFan]

Then again it is the Browns

Funny thing though. In 2012, the Deadskins took RGIII then in the 4th round they took Cousins and at the time many people questioned their sanity. Turned out that it was a prudent move as RGIII blew his knee in his rookie year and never really recovered(he has since been signed by Baltimore after being out of football for a full season) and Cousins took over the team and led them back to the playoffs and eventually got paid by Minnesota. However, taking 2 QB's in the top 4 would be extremely stupid. Cleveland is in the catbird seat right now and if they were smart, they should grab whatever QB they covet at #1 then go Chubb at #4 if he's still there. I'm not completely sold on Barkley but Chubb is an absolute monster in this league on par with Chandler Jones and Cleveland would be foolish to pass him up if he's there.

 

[Gandhi]

What's happening in this scenario is the Browns are taking highest ceiling Josh Allen at number 1 overall. But acknowledging that Allen has the lowest floor and is the most likely of the four quarterbacks to be a bust they hedge their bets by taking a second quarterback.

If Allen is a bust, they have a Plan B.

If Allen works out then they can flip the other QB for picks or whatever.

The other benefit is that the Browns won't be facing the potential of paying three guy (Myles Garrett and their two first rounders) top of the position money in five years.

I actually think it is an interesting thought, Don, and thanks for posting it.

Personally, I would not do it, and that’s because they have signed Tyrod Taylor. I think he could be their secondary quarterback, so to speak, if a draft pick pans out. That said, the Browns has been haunted by bad quarterback play for years, and even though some believe that it is possible to win in the NFL without good quarterback play, well, I am not one of those persons.

I think it would be smart by the Browns to draft two quarterbacks. I just think they should draft one in the first round and another in the later rounds. Maybe even in the second. They have a lot of picks early on, and I don’t really think they have so many holes on their roster as other thinks. I have been on record for month saying the Bradley Chubb is the best prospect in this class, and if they could get a perceived franchise quarterback and Chubb in the first round, I don’t think they can do any better.

 

[Garthshort]

While it will never happen, unless 4 refers to the fourth round, it does keep the Browns in the news. And the Draft.

 

[GimmedaBall]

I suggested that Cleveland do this a few weeks ago. They could keep both and have a cost controlled starter and backup. Or they could evaluate both and then trade for future picks/players with the guy they don't want.

The other alternatives: Don't take any QB especially if they see Tyrod Taylor as either the equivalent or even better than any of the QBs in this draft. They could then get two top players out of the first four slots to add to their growing talent base.

Trade both picks and own the draft for years to come. They could trade down and still get a haul of talent in this draft---but own several #1's in the next two-three drafts.

 

[NJCardFan]

the Browns has been haunted by bad quarterback play for years,

That is an understatement:

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I have been on record for month saying the Bradley Chubb is the best prospect in this class, and if they could get a perceived franchise quarterback and Chubb in the first round, I don’t think they can do any better.

I agree 100%

 

[JeffGollin]

I actually heard scouts on the radio talking about this today

Pat Kirwan on SIRIUS pointed out that the cost/cap dollars of drafting 2 QB's in the top 4 would not be sustainable.

That said - I could see drafting one top 4 QB while protecting their flanks with another QB in rounds 2 - 4 (In fact they could even juggle picks to draft a second QB in the late 1st - but that would be a long-shot).

 

[Chopper0080]

Not a new premise and not a bad one. If you are a franchise that NEEDS to ensure that you don't miss on a QB, taking Darnold and Allen at 1 and 4 isn't a bad choice. Both are cheap. One has a higher ceiling, and the other a very stable floor. Both play a position that you can trade for value later on.

I would be 90% on this if I was in charge of the Browns. Injuries are tough to predict. It is a tough learning curve. You would have to have a viable plan in place, and you would need to ensure that you speak with the players to communicate this plan, and explain how you would get one to a starting place once you were sure how you were going to proceed.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Pat Kirwan on SIRIUS pointed out that the cost/cap dollars of drafting 2 QB's in the top 4 would not be sustainable.

That said - I could see drafting one top 4 QB while protecting their flanks with another QB in rounds 2 - 4 (In fact they could even juggle picks to draft a second QB in the late 1st - but that would be a long-shot).

It soon will be unsustainable to have even one top QB.

Two QBs in this draft would be under the rookie salary structure for up to 5 years. If you get 5 years out of any player you're doing well.

I saw a few mocks that had the Browns going some combination of Barkley-Chubb at the top of the draft and then trading into the lower rounds when one of the QBs drop for their third pick in the 1st round. One mock even had the Cards trading down from 15 for some of the Browns draft ammo with the Browns selecting Lamar Jackson as their FQB with our pick #15.

Nice ESPN article that calculates the amount of draft capital each team has in this draft (Cards at 12):

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-capital-cleveland-browns-most-valuable-picks

 

[GimmedaBall]

That is an understatement:

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I agree 100%

See the second article in this link for the Browns QB history (and we thought the Cards were bad!):

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-capital-cleveland-browns-most-valuable-picks

 

[NJCardFan]

See the second article in this link for the Browns QB history (and we thought the Cards were bad!):

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-capital-cleveland-browns-most-valuable-picks

I have posted, on more than one occasion, the number of QB's that have QB'd this team since they arrived in AZ and believe me, that list would rival the Browns on any day.

 

[moklerman]

Since I am seeing even less separation between Allen/Rosen/Darnold I'm reverting to my original idea for the Browns. Take Barkley #1 overall and still get their QBOTF. I guess it's possible for Barkley to slip to 4 but I'd be pretty comfortable taking any one of the top 3 QB's at #4 and still getting a stud RB.

Barkley + Rosen/Allen/Darnold is much better than Darnold/Allen/Rosen + ?

I know, if they have one of those QB's head and shoulders above the others they have to go QB first. But for this draft and these guys, I'd go Barkley first.

 

[blindseyed]

I hate these weird click bait threads.

A post from Sec 11??

 

[unseenaz]

the browns should draft a QB at 1 and 4. they've needed a qb for a decade or more, might at well throw 2 lines out

 

[Mainstreet]

Let me add to the weirdness.

If I knew the Cardinals could get their QBOTF by drafting a a QB in the first and second round of the draft, I'd do it.

 

[AZCrazy]

Pre draft subterfuge.

They are dangling their #4 to the quarterback needy teams, saying they'll take 'em all unless you pony up.