30 Thoughts from Sunday (Week 6 Edition)

[nashman]

$100 bucks done! We shall see if your good for it

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'll put it another way we didn't get beat, we lost. We didn't help ourselves but clearly the players were dejected and posed we kept getting terrible calls all day.

then they're a bunch of freaking pussie s. plain and simple. it wasn't the Refs who threw a sure TD in the dirt to Brown. It wasn't the refs who decided not to drag his foot on a sure TD. It wasn't the refs who made John Brown fumble inside our 20. And it wasn't the refs who threw an ATROCIOUS pick into double coverage with 3 minutes left driving for the game winning TD.

 

[NavyVet]

$100 bucks done! We shall see if your good for it

I make good money, if you win, I will not only pay you the 100, but publicly acknowledge you were smarter than I. What if you're wrong?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Michael Floyd isn't a number one receiver. You expect a guy taken in the first round to be special and he is not.

He has to get both feet in when he is in the endzone. Other WR's seem to do all the time. And make the big catches to be a number one.

 

[NYCARDS]

then they're a bunch of freaking pussie s. plain and simple. it wasn't the Refs who threw a sure TD in the dirt to Brown. It wasn't the refs who decided not to drag his foot on a sure TD. It wasn't the refs who made John Brown fumble inside our 20. And it wasn't the refs who threw an ATROCIOUS pick into double coverage with 3 minutes left driving for the game winning TD.

Thank you! Guys, stop with the bad calls. There will always be missed or bad calls to overcome but when the failures are laid out as they are above then you can't blame the refs.

 

[nashman]

You can overcome some bad calls I agree but just a few, when they happen for 3/4 of the game at key times.... Good luck! Their were lots of bad calls and terrible non calls that totally decided the outcome of this game!

 

[Cheesebeef]

You can overcome some bad calls I agree but just a few, when they happen for 3/4 of the game at key times.... Good luck! Their were lots of bad calls and terrible non calls that totally decided the outcome of this game!

I'm totally investing in Charmin tomorrow.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You can overcome some bad calls I agree but just a few, when they happen for 3/4 of the game at key times.... Good luck! Their were lots of bad calls and terrible non calls that totally decided the outcome of this game!

If you have the ball with three minutes left and down by 5 playing against a mediocre team and throw an awful pick and then lay down and die on the next defensive series, you played a pretty huge role in deciding the game. The game was there to be had and overcome whatever happened in the previous three quarters and we choked like dogs... Again.

 

[NJCardFan]

Point 31 - terrible officiating like our only other loss!

Not sure how officiating wouldn't be a key point since it cost is the game!

As bad as the officiating was, we were still in a position to win near the end and choked. Getting picked off in the endzone means you were in a position to score. A dumb holding penalty cost us 10 yards and then the pick made it uglier. Also, officiating aside, there were several other opportunities to make those bad calls not matter. To have that many shots in the red zone and only come away with 13 points is horrible.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

If you have the ball with three minutes left and down by 5 playing against a mediocre team and throw an awful pick and then lay down and die on the next defensive series, you played a pretty huge role in deciding the game. The game was there to be had and overcome whatever happened in the previous three quarters and we choked like dogs... Again.

This sums it up well

 

[NJCardFan]

then they're a bunch of freaking pussie s. plain and simple. it wasn't the Refs who threw a sure TD in the dirt to Brown. It wasn't the refs who decided not to drag his foot on a sure TD. It wasn't the refs who made John Brown fumble inside our 20. And it wasn't the refs who threw an ATROCIOUS pick into double coverage with 3 minutes left driving for the game winning TD.

Not for nothing, Brown lost that ball because he was knocked silly by another dirty hit by Harrison that wasn't called. How this clown gets away with half the crap he gets away with is beyond me.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Not for nothing, Brown lost that ball because he was knocked silly by another dirty hit by Harrison that wasn't called. How this clown gets away with half the crap he gets away with is beyond me.

I don't know how that's a dirty hit. I just watched it. It was a good, hard hit.

 

[NJCardFan]

If you have the ball with three minutes left and down by 5 playing against a mediocre team and throw an awful pick and then lay down and die on the next defensive series, you played a pretty huge role in deciding the game. The game was there to be had and overcome whatever happened in the previous three quarters and we choked like dogs... Again.

The difference between this loss and the Rams loss is that in every aspect of the game we simply dominated the Stealers. In the first half we moved the ball at will while the Stealers couldn't move it at all. Hell, we had more penalty yards than they had total offensive yards in the 1st half. In the Rams loss, they dominated us all day long but today, we dominated them and got our asses handed to us in return. That's the damned of it all.

 

[NJCardFan]

I don't know how that's a dirty hit. I just watched it. It was a good, hard hit.

It's James Harrison so it's dirty by proxy.

 

[MrYeahBut]

#29.... I don't want Bettcher coaching for his job. I want him doing his job.

 

[Osbern61]

If you have the ball with three minutes left and down by 5 playing against a mediocre team and throw an awful pick and then lay down and die on the next defensive series, you played a pretty huge role in deciding the game. The game was there to be had and overcome whatever happened in the previous three quarters and we choked like dogs... Again.

Well said. The final TD reception is becoming a kind of staple for the Cards defense late in winnable games; what should be a short yard gain turns into a huge backbreaking play because of missed tackles and/or bad angles taken.

Point #8 is spot on. Michael Floyd has more offensive PI than any receiver I can recall.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Just watched the entire game again. We got jobbed out of four points. That's it. The offensive PI and no PI calls came on the same drive where we got screwed. But even WITH those plays, we blew opportunities to score by throwing a sure TD in the dirt to Brown and I don't know how Floyd just flat out dropped the PI TD. He was already clear of the defender and blew that. Great teams make those
Plays. But, it should have been a penalty so I'll say we should have gotten four there.

But the second half was just pathetic. We have up lots of third downs to a #3 QB and TWICE had a chance to take back control of the game, down 15-10 when Floyd didn't get his foot
Down on a TD and then the awful
Palmer pick.

**** happens... We got jobbed on one drive in the first half and that was it and we had NUMEROUS chances to retake the lead and failed. That puts
The game on us ultimately.

 

[MrYeahBut]

That puts
The game on us ultimately.

Total team fail. Can't put it one one player, coach, unit or scheme. All of them failed at one point or another, refs notwithstanding.

 

[cardpa]

Everything was off with this team yesterday, from Ellington starting in the backfield to open the game to running short yardage plays with an empty backfield this whole game just stunk. I just got a bad vibe from the get go. The 2 picks into double coverage didn't help. Almost all of Palmers picks so far this year have been that variety. In I think all cases those passes were to Brown too. Maybe Palmer thinks Brown is 6'-4" tall. There seemed to be confusion on both sides of the ball a fair number of times yesterday. This team was not prepared to do battle. How do you only scored 13 points while gaining over 400 yds. I guess 111 yards in penalties and 3 turnovers will do that especially where the turnovers occurred on the field.

Something that I haven't seen mentioned is how many times D. Johnson mishandled the ball on KO returns. That was very unsettling for me. I think the coaching staff needs to rethink Johnson continuing in that role.

 

[DVontel]

Everything was off with this team yesterday, from Ellington starting in the backfield to open the game to running short yardage plays with an empty backfield this whole game just stunk. I just got a bad vibe from the get go. The 2 picks into double coverage didn't help. Almost all of Palmers picks so far this year have been that variety. In I think all cases those passes were to Brown too. Maybe Palmer thinks Brown is 6'-4" tall. There seemed to be confusion on both sides of the ball a fair number of times yesterday. This team was not prepared to do battle. How do you only scored 13 points while gaining over 400 yds. I guess 111 yards in penalties and 3 turnovers will do that especially where the turnovers occurred on the field.

Something that I haven't seen mentioned is how many times D. Johnson mishandled the ball on KO returns. That was very unsettling for me. I think the coaching staff needs to rethink Johnson continuing in that role.

He tries to get a head-start on his kickoffs.

I wish he would stop doing that.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't know how that's a dirty hit. I just watched it. It was a good, hard hit.

the one arm was up high enough to cause the helmet to come off but I agree it was legal hit.

The argument on that play is by rule the ball is supposed to be blown dead when the helmet comes off to protect the player. In that scenario the Cards argument would be Brown was on top of the ball at the point the whistle should have blown.

My argument against that is it's not clear to me he had possession, he was on top of the ball but not in possession. That was good enough in last nights game on the onside kick, but in general is not good enough.

I think they wound up with the right call

 

[CardLogic]

I don't know how that's a dirty hit. I just watched it. It was a good, hard hit.

This particular play, I agree. But Harrison should have been ejected for the play in the end zone; not just penalized!

My impression is that there are teams (Rams, and Steelers, so far this season) that are targeting John Brown excessively. They view his physical stature and figure if they hit him hard enough they can put him out of the game. So fair enough, in my opinion thats football. However, I would hope that seeing this that JB's teammates make the decision to come to his defense; even if it costs a 15 yarder! The team should make it known that targeting JB won't be tolerated!

 

[MrYeahBut]

This particular play, I agree. But Harrison should have been ejected for the play in the end zone; not just penalized!

The team should make it known that targeting JB won't be tolerated!

We need some goons to watch JB's back and take care of the Harrisons of the world....

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The difference between this loss and the Rams loss is that in every aspect of the game we simply dominated the Stealers. In the first half we moved the ball at will while the Stealers couldn't move it at all. Hell, we had more penalty yards than they had total offensive yards in the 1st half. In the Rams loss, they dominated us all day long but today, we dominated them and got our asses handed to us in return. That's the damned of it all.

You realize that we lost the turnover battle 0-3. That's not dominating, that's being dominated.

And you know there are two halves, right? They dominated us in the second half.

We didn't dominate the game, we dominated a half statistically but not on the scoreboard.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

15-Markus Golden was the best OLB on the field today.

Ha, maybe not named James Harrison.