BASKing in Player Versatility

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Bruce Arians and Steve Keim are on the same page when it comes to player versatility. In numerous cases, the more versatile a player can be, the more attractive he is to the coaches. In this day and age, with the limits of a 53 man roster with a mere 45 players active on game days, it would seem to put a premium on player versatility.

Cases in Point:

RB Andre Ellington.

We are seeing the pure vanilla version of Andre Ellington this pre-season as Bruce Arians has yet to unveil the multi-dimensional aspects of his role for the 2014 season. Ellington is BA's queen on the chessboard---he will move Ellington vertically, horizontally and diagonally all over the football field as a runner and pass receiver. Which is he? A RB or a WR? The answer is: both.

RB Robert Hughes.

BA loves this guy---partly because he is a tough lunch pail type of role player and partly because he can play RB, FB, H-Back and ST dynamo.

WR Larry Fitzgerald.

One of the first things BA did when he arrived in AZ was to diversify Fitz's role. No longer would teams be able to key on Fitz as easily as they could in the past because BA started moving and motioning him all across the formations. Double teaming Fitz when he is in the slot presents quite a dilemma for the defense because (a) do you keep a CB on him and thus take your CB out of the perimeter? and (b) do you still double team and/or bracket him with the FS and thus make the deep thirds all the more vulnerable? What is Larry Fitzgerald right now, a WR, a FL, a Slot WR or a hybrid WR/TE? Answer: all of the above.

C/G Ted Larsen.

A seemingly unheralded UFA signing at the time, Ted Larsen has emerged as a key cog in the Cardinals' offensive line. He has stepped in very well for Lyle Sendlein and has shown himself to be, as Steve Keim termed it, "one of the top five offensive lineman on the team." Larsen has plenty of starting experience at LG and C---which is why he appears to be the logical choice to start at LG while Jonathan Cooper is injured and struggling and Earl Watford is improving his consistency. The plan was to start Cooper from day one---but Larsen was the insurance policy at G and C.

DT Dan Williams.

Now that Almeda Ta'amu is off the PUP list and gearing to be ready to play as soon as possible---and now that the depth at LDE has become an issue due to the loss of Darnell Dockett, could Dan Williams and Almeda Ta'amu see time together on the interior of the 34 base? Williams has that kind of versatility, should Todd Bowles wish to tap into this option, particularly against teams that run the ball effectively.

OLB Matt Shaughnessy.

There are those who still are convinced that Shaughnessey's most natural position is 34 DE. So, why then did he wind up at LOLB? Because the Cardinals were set at 34 DE with Dockett and Campbell and in an effort to get the 11 best players on the field, Shaughnessy was moved to the outside. Not only might Shaughnessy be the most logical player to start in place of Dockett, he would appear to be a good inside pass rushing option in the 4 man rush. Shaughnessy is an excellent tackler and in order to defend the more mobile QBs in the division and on the schedule the Cardinals need interior rushers who can shed their man and tackle the QB when he tries to bolt from the pocket.

OLB Marcus Benard.

Not only would Benard be a viable candidate to start at OLB should Todd Bowles slide Matt Shaughnessey down to DE, Benard is a good nickel DE edge pass rusher. Plus, he's been making big hits and stops on STs. Alex Okafor would also be a viable option to start at LOLB and Benard could sub in for him in the nickel, as he did with Shaughnessey.

SS Deone Bucannon.

Bucannon is big, fast and tough enough to play a variety of roles on the defense. If properly covered up, he can play WILB. If you saw him last week on the goalline, playing what was essentially a third LB spot, he stepped up and made two excellent stops on first and goal from the 4 and second and goal from the 3. The coaches have been lauding his play as the nickel LB, and of course, he is a natural SS who has the speed and athleticism to play nickel FS.

FS Tyrann Mathieu.

Honey Badger is the ultimate versatile player. Just as Andre Ellington is BA's queen of the chessboard on offense, HB is TB's queen of the chessboard on defense, as he can thrive in a number of roles as a FS, edge blitzer and nickel CB. When certain players are hurting the defense, Mathieu gives Todd Bowles the flexibility to "Badger" that player all over the field. Even though he gives up size on big TEs, Badger showed last year that he can pester them in coverage when need be. In essence, Badger can pester just about anyone because he is sticky, tenacious, smart and fully under control.

There are numerous other players on the roster who fill multiple roles---and this is exactly what BA&SK look for when they evaluate and acquire talent.

If you look back at the list of players highlighted above---other than Fitzgerald and Williams, all of them were added in the last two years by BA&SK.

What the player versatility does as much as anything? It allows BA and his coaches to do what they vow to do---which is put the best 11 players on the field at all possible times. BA and his staff have shown very clearly that they will adapt their schemes to fit the strengths of the personnel. If you are one of the best players---you are going to play. The creativity of BA and these coaches ensures just that...just as player versatility makes it all the more possible.
 

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Great post Mitch! Agree with pretty much everything. Unpredictability is key to success in the NFL.
 

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So you really feel Shaughnessy can take over DD spot and play effectively? Has he ever played that position?
 
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So you really feel Shaughnessy can take over DD spot and play effectively? Has he ever played that position?

Yes, I do. I think he would have played there last year had there been the need. We need to get a little quicker on the edges and quickness is not Shaughnessey's greatest strength...nor is pass coverage.

I read an article last year wherein a Raiders' beat writer felt that Shaughnessy played better on the inside of their defense than on the outside...and he went on to say that he was certain that 34 DE was Shaughnessey's most natural and suited position. When i watched tape of him, I could see what the writer meant.
 
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Good post Mitch! It's seems players just keep getting more athletic & better talentwise every few years...the game is changing because of rules & so are tge players talents.

I still feel seeing more of Fitz in the slot limits his big play potential & the stats prove that. It's not just age IMO
 
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Good post Mitch! It's seems players just keep getting more athletic & better talentwise every few years...the game is changing because of rules & so are tge players talents.

I still feel seeing more of Fitz in the slot limits his big play potential & the stats prove that. It's not just age IMO

Teams are loathe to double team a WR in the slot, Bucky. It actually takes the bracket off of Fitz and puts him in more one-on-one situations, which you know he can exploit.

Look at what BA did for Reggie Wayne in 2012 by moving him around the offense:

16 106 1,355 12.8 5
 
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So you really feel Shaughnessy can take over DD spot and play effectively? Has he ever played that position?

No, he can't. No matter what his technique is, he plays 40 lbs below what you'd want in a five-technique, and 30 lbs below what most would consider the absolute minimum.

He'd get destroyed by guard-tackle combo blocks, and then who plays the (more important) OLB spot behind him?

Speaking of which--Whatever happened to Ed Stinson? Didn't hear his name mentioned at all Saturday night.
 
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I still feel seeing more of Fitz in the slot limits his big play potential & the stats prove that. It's not just age IMO

Teams are loathe to double team a WR in the slot, Bucky. It actually takes the bracket off of Fitz and puts him in more one-on-one situations, which you know he can exploit.
With the addition of speed receivers Ginn and especially John Brown, who is a natural slot receiver, we will probably see Fitzgerald back on the edge more often.

Plus, with the offensive weapons the Cardinals now have, and the added speed it's going to be difficult to double Fitz as regularly as has been done in past seasons. And I haven't even mentioned the progress Floyd has shown. . . So pick your poison Cardinals opponents!
 

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Speaking of which--Whatever happened to Ed Stinson? Didn't hear his name mentioned at all Saturday night.

He had the most snaps of any Defensive lineman that game with a total of 35.

http://www.foxsports910.com/onair/m...nals-defensive-snap-count-vs-vikings-12677257

I watched and he didn't do much. Offensive linemen were able to lock up on him and take him out of the play. I think that big run that Banyard had was right at Stinson who couldn't disengage his man. As a pass rusher he didn't do much at all other than push his blocker back towards the QB a few times.
 
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He had the most snaps of any Defensive lineman that game with a total of 35.

http://www.foxsports910.com/onair/m...nals-defensive-snap-count-vs-vikings-12677257

I watched and he didn't do much. Offensive linemen were able to lock up on him and take him out of the play. I think that big run that Banyard had was right at Stinson who couldn't disengage his man. As a pass rusher he didn't do much at all other than push his blocker back towards the QB a few times.

Stinson got some good initial push, but got stood up in his tracks from that point on way too often. He needs to learn how to maintain leverage and how to use his hands to disengage from the blocks---but most of all he's got to keep his feet moving.

The Banyard run was actually bounced away from Stinson and to the right side of the defense...where Kareem Martin was downblocked effectively and Lorenzo Alexander misread the play and got caught up and sealed off in the traffic inside. Deone Bucannon was playing FS then and took a poor angle and got beat. Justin Bethel made a heckuva TD save on a tremendous chase.
 

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Mitch, I still marvel at how Arians and Keim remain on the same page, and are so very well suited to the jobs that they do here. It is like they are two bodies sharing a common brain. It is because of them that, (even though this team has been ravaged this off season), it still seems possible that they can compete at a pretty high level. I am truly amazed at how the two think, (and act) as with one mindset.

Nice job of listing the versatility of these players. That versatility was easily overlooked, as most people were looking at the fact that they were leadership types and were added without great salary cap threat. I do so love this management group. Thanks for pointing this out.
 

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The Banyard run was actually bounced away from Stinson and to the right side of the defense...where Kareem Martin was downblocked effectively and Lorenzo Alexander misread the play and got caught up and sealed off in the traffic inside. Deone Bucannon was playing FS then and took a poor angle and got beat. Justin Bethel made a heckuva TD save on a tremendous chase.

To me it looked like Banyard initially was running for the gap where Stinson was and then as you say bounced to his left. Both Stinson and Martin looked to be locked up with a single blocker and were both unable to disengage. I thought Bucannon was at SS and opposite to where the play bounced. Wasn't Walters or someone else playing FS? It wasn't Bucannon who took the terrible angle from what I recall, it was whoever was at FS. Bethel did show amazing catch up speed and took a perfect angle to make a TD saving tackle.
 

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To me it looked like Banyard initially was running for the gap where Stinson was and then as you say bounced to his left. Both Stinson and Martin looked to be locked up with a single blocker and were both unable to disengage. I thought Bucannon was at SS and opposite to where the play bounced. Wasn't Walters or someone else playing FS? It wasn't Bucannon who took the terrible angle from what I recall, it was whoever was at FS. Bethel did show amazing catch up speed and took a perfect angle to make a TD saving tackle.

Found the video on nfl.com game center under videos(look for "Joe Banyard 56-yard run" video):

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014081606/2014/PRE2/cardinals@vikings#tab=videos&menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap3000000379054

#67 just gets blown away by by the center with a chip from the RG leaving a gaping hole in the middle. That is where Banyard bounces to. #37 which I beleive is Walters takes a terrible angle. Both Stinson and Martin fail to disengage from their blockers as well. RG makes it to the second level and completely engulfs Lorenzo Alexander, and Banyard is off to the races. That RG and center made that play right there with nice vision by Banyard.
 
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I think we should change Ellington's nickname from The Duke to The Queen. All in favor?
 
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Found the video on nfl.com game center under videos(look for "Joe Banyard 56-yard run" video):

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014081606/2014/PRE2/cardinals@vikings#tab=videos&menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap3000000379054

#67 just gets blown away by by the center with a chip from the RG leaving a gaping hole in the middle. That is where Banyard bounces to. #37 which I beleive is Walters takes a terrible angle. Both Stinson and Martin fail to disengage from their blockers as well. RG makes it to the second level and completely engulfs Lorenzo Alexander, and Banyard is off to the races. That RG and center made that play right there with nice vision by Banyard.

Good job! You are right, it wasn't Deone, it was Walters at FS.
 

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Can we just not give Ellington a nickname until he rushes for more than 1000 yards? Maybe scores 8+ TDs?

LOL so true. What happens when he finishes the year with 350 yards rushing and all the fans gave him some stupid nickname?
 

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LOL so true. What happens when he finishes the year with 350 yards rushing and all the fans gave him some stupid nickname?

I was able to bottle it up for so long. I sat silently through Juke and Duke, but one more nickname for a guy who's been impressive in fairly limited action and I had to speak up.

Mostly because whenever anyone mentions "Juke", I have to ask myself "WTH are they talking about" and it takes me a second to connect the dots.
 

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I was able to bottle it up for so long. I sat silently through Juke and Duke, but one more nickname for a guy who's been impressive in fairly limited action and I had to speak up.

Mostly because whenever anyone mentions "Juke", I have to ask myself "WTH are they talking about" and it takes me a second to connect the dots.


The only nickname that I ever liked was Hyphen. Mainly because I thought it was pretty damn funny and the other players gave it to him.
 

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I was able to bottle it up for so long. I sat silently through Juke and Duke, but one more nickname for a guy who's been impressive in fairly limited action and I had to speak up.

Mostly because whenever anyone mentions "Juke", I have to ask myself "WTH are they talking about" and it takes me a second to connect the dots.

Hey, Mitch is the one that called him BAs Queen.

In other news; 50 posts. YESSS!
 
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