Van Halen recording new album

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Does EVH have any brain cells left to right new music? That guy has completely destroyed himself.

Was chatting with Gary Husband a few months ago about some old audio someone dug up from a one-off jam gig he did with EVH at the Studio City Musicians Union in the late 90s. Husband was appalled someone put it up because, as he recalled, EVH's idea was for everyone to go out and get drunk and then jam together. Husband is one of the most refined musicians in the history of music, a true renaissance man, and he's never played with EVH again. I guess EVH really didn't have any musical ideas to develop and just generally pissed on everyone. When you play at MU you play in front of all your peers.
 

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Does EVH have any brain cells left to right new music? That guy has completely destroyed himself.

Was chatting with Gary Husband a few months ago about some old audio someone dug up from a one-off jam gig he did with EVH at the Studio City Musicians Union in the late 90s. Husband was appalled someone put it up because, as he recalled, EVH's idea was for everyone to go out and get drunk and then jam together. Husband is one of the most refined musicians in the history of music, a true renaissance man, and he's never played with EVH again. I guess EVH really didn't have any musical ideas to develop and just generally pissed on everyone. When you play at MU you play in front of all your peers.

Eddie states he just wanted to get drunk and jam, so it seems it wasn't his intention to farm a rich musical harvest of ideas. Plus, as great of a soloist as he is, EVH doesn't really strike me an 'improv collaborator guy'. Husband probably set his expectations too high.
 

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Eddie states he just wanted to get drunk and jam, so it seems it wasn't his intention to farm a rich musical harvest of ideas. Plus, as great of a soloist as he is, EVH doesn't really strike me an 'improv collaborator guy'. Husband probably set his expectations too high.

I probably should've provided some context. As I understood it, EVH invited them to LA with the notion he might play some instrumental music. Husband is a regular collaborator with Allan Holdsworth, Eddie's idol, thus the get together. They flew from London to LA to do this.

There aren't many rock "god" guitarists who garner respect from jazz musicians, but Eddie is one of them just for his sheer ingenuity. He's not Holdsworth -- I doubt EVH could play an AH song from start to finish, and probably wouldn't even know the chords, but jazzers respected him for what he is. Or what he used to be. Outside of his friendship with guys like Steve Lukather, I think his reputation in the industry is down the toilet, and especially among his peers.
 
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There aren't many rock "god" guitarists who garner respect from jazz musicians, but Eddie is one of them just for his sheer ingenuity. He's not Holdsworth -- I doubt EVH could play an AH song from start to finish, and probably wouldn't even know the chords, but jazzers respected him for what he is. Or what he used to be.

Interesting. In general, what do jazzers think about some other rock guitarists? Like Clapton or Vai.
 

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Interesting. In general, what do jazzers think about some other rock guitarists? Like Clapton or Vai.

Vai's a virtuoso. I mean, Wynton's not going to call up Vai to play on his next CD, but some of the more progressive guys might -- Herbie would. I think Vai might struggle with the nuance of jazz phrasing, but only because he doesn't play that style professionally. But he could if he wanted to, and I'm certain he could fake it enough to hang with the heavies.

Clapton's respected more of an artist than for his guitar playing. His guitar playing is clean and hooky -- it's smart and clever. His band the last 20 years is made up of a who's who of session guys. That should say everything you need to know. Steve Gadd is retired to Scottsdale. He doesn't HAVE to tour with Clapton. He does it because he enjoys the gig. But if you're booking, say, a movie soundtrack gig that needs blues guitar, you call Ry Cooder, not Clapton (assuming he'd work for anything less than quintuple scale ... LOL).
 

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I thought I'd bump this old post with a couple of updates courtesy of Andrew at www.melodicrock.com who asks the question that alot of "fans" would like to know...
From: 8/30/2011
JUST WHERE IS VAN HALEN'S NEW ALBUM AND WHEN WILL ANY PRESS COMMENCE?:
Just where is the Van Halen album at and when might fans get any indication that the new record is finally coming? That's the question constantly being asked by the band's frustrated fanbase. Time is running out for a 2011 release announcement, given that I personally am already working on November releases with some labels, with most locking in their plans for the last quarter already.
When one looks at the efforts underway in the Chickenfoot camp, it's easy to see who has the better grasp of media in the 21st century. Sammy Hagar and co are already all over Twitter, YouTube, Facebook and their own websites with video teasers, personal appearances and interviews. But still nothing from Van Halen, who commenced recording of the album back in 2010 with producer Ross Hogarth, apart from David Lee Roth telling us to coming to "Get Ready" (hopefully not to get ready for more disappearing tour dates, as happened in Australia).

I don't have much news today, but the latest from one of my sources suggests the continued "mixing" process, which is reported to have been going on for some time now, could involve additional vocals being recorded by David Lee Roth for inclusion on the album. The mixing process often includes the addition of extra parts and replacement of others. My source stated: "As for the album being shelved goes, it's not true. However, I will say that the delay lies within the vocals. That seems to be the main roadblock. Eddie is just not satisfied with the vocals that have been recorded and re-recorded which has caused a lot of frustration with both the Van Halen and Roth Camps alike. It's also my understanding that Shanks involvement ended up being very minimal compared to what the press made it out to be."
While this is just one source and won't ever be commented on by anyone officially...it does make sense, in explaining why at the start of September 2011 we still haven't heard one note of the new music.

I've heard further comments about US tour dates for the first 3 months of 2012, so it seems planning for the tour remains on track. There is a rumored January date for Van Halen in Indonesia, but that is anything but confirmed at this stage. Stay tuned as always...

From: 9/5/2011
VAN HALEN - ALBUM DONE, BUT FULL EUROPEAN TOUR LESS LIKELY:
In the interests of keeping starving Van Halen fans up to date with every little update possible, I offer today's humble update. Not much, but something at least while I sort out a few other things I have heard, but cannot yet confirm.

Following my last update when it was mentioned EVH was not happy with all DLR vocals, I can now update that whatever those issues were, have been sorted and the album is finally done...mixed and completed.
So that is great news of course. But with it comes no further information as to when we might finally get to see a release date announced or hear anything from it. I hear management is shopping for a deal (no word if anyone outside VH actually has a copy or has heard anything - I think not at this stage), but labels are being approached in search of a deal....and a BIG deal from what I was told!
I'm told there is still hope to get the album released this side of Christmas, but that is certainly not for certain.
Prior talk of an exclusive WalMart deal for the album is diminishing - I'm told the preference is one label for a worldwide deal.

Now that's the good news. The same source that delivered this album news also told me that plans for the band touring Europe are less definite. There is an offer for the band to headline Download Festival in the UK next year, but other dates in Europe are still being looked at before they can commit to Download. And I'm told not to expect a full tour of Europe. The priority it seems will remain on US tour dates.

Stay tuned as always...

From: 9/19/2011
VAN HALEN LOOK AT COLUMBIA RECORDS FOR NEW HOME:
As widely discussed all weekend long, record industry website gave mention to some interesting Van Halen news late Friday. From www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news08690m01 came this: "After spending its entire 35-year career at WB, Van Halen, with David Lee Roth back in the fold, recently completed work on its first album for new label Columbia, coming early next year… "

At this stage, that's all there is. I was told a little while back the band was in talks with Sony and it appears a deal has been reached. I will have a follow up on this with any extra details available in a day or two. For now the only extra info my source had was to state that as they were aware, the papers had not yet been signed. I did ask the band's LA publicist to comment, to which I got the reply "no comment".
Stay tuned!
 

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From: 9/21/2011

VAN HALEN - COLUMBIA RUMORS FIRM UP - AND EUROPE IN MAY/JUNE:
A couple of small Van Halen updates for you today. First., the following article from The Hollywood Reporter (link):
"After 35 years at Warner Bros., the band has reportedly left for Sony. An insider tells THR that Columbia A&R executive Stephen Ferrera has been tasked with overseeing a new Van Halen album, its first with David Lee Roth since 1984.
The rumor mill is abuzz with talk of a new Van Halen album -- their first with original singer David Lee Roth since he left the band in 1985, the band's first since 1998's Van Halen III and the first to be released on a label other than Warner Bros. Records, where they spent the better part of 35 years.
Several reports cite that Sony-owned Columbia Records will be Van Halen's new label home, with new music due out in 2012. Indeed, a source tells The Hollywood Reporter, “Nothing has been signed yet, but Columbia has been in the lead for some time,” adding that A&R executive Stephen Ferrera has been tasked with overseeing the album.
Ferrera came to Columbia in June after spending three years at EVP of A&R at Island Def Jam, where he worked with such acts as Bon Jovi and Ne-Yo. Before that, he held a senior A&R role at RCA, where he worked with the likes of Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood.
Producer-songwriter John Shanks (Michelle Branch, Melissa Etheridge) tweeted early this year that he was in the studio with the band and THR hears Ross Hogarth (Sick Puppies, John Mellencamp) recently finished mixing the album.
Van Halen's current line-up includes Roth, guitarist Eddie Van Halen, his son and bassist Wolfgang Van Halen and drummer Alex Van Halen.
A Columbia Records rep could not be reached for comment."

I can add the following information. Tour dates for USA continue to be booked, starting in February 2012. The tour could be split into two legs, to allow the band to take in some festival and select solo dates in Europe over the northern summer.

A trusted source in Europe tells me that there are 3 German shows being looked at (Stuttgart, Dortmund and Berlin) around the week of June 13.
I've heard from two sources now that Download UK want Van Halen to headline one of the nights there - the event runs June 6-11, 2012 and lastly, expect the band to figure in Sweden Rock Festival calculations - that festival runs June 6-9.
A Paris date is also rumoured for late May.
 

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Van Halen has already cancelled dates in Australia & now as expected the European dates are going away... courtesy of Andrew at http://www.melodicrock.com

VAN HALEN CANCEL PLANNED EUROPEAN TOUR DATES:
Van Halen have cancelled their planned 2012 Summer Tour of Europe before the dates were even announced. But because planning was so far along for the tour - the dates and venues were already locked in. But there has been no reason given to promoters for the cancellation. Simply that it was not going to go ahead.

The cancelled dates were:
May 28 Paris Zenith
May 30 Zuerich Hallenstadion
June 1 Barcelona Pala Jordi
June 3 Milano Arena Fiera
June 5 Dortmund Westfalenhalle
June 7 Sweden Rock Solvesborg
June 10 Download Festival Donnington
June 13 Stuttgart Schleyerhalle
June 15 Hellfest Clisson France
June 17 Fields Of Rock Festival Holland
June 19 Berlin O2 Arena
June 21 Prag
June 23 Grasspop Metal Meeting Belgium

That's it for now... but stay tuned as always...
 

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VAN HALEN SIGN TO INTERSCOPE RECORDS:
Van Halen have gone against initial talk of signing to Columbia and have instead signed with LA based Interscope Records. It is believed that the band wanted to work with a label that was based closer to their own base - therefore LA over the NYC based Columbia. My source that told me of this news yesterday stated that another factor in the band's decision was "that they did not deem Columbia Records "hip" enough" - preferring to go with the more contemporary Interscope label, which was thought to be a better fit.
The band's first album with David Lee Roth since the 1984 opus is scheduled for release in the first quarter of 2012.

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/record-labels/van-halen-to-sign-with-interscope-1005511802.story
 

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The only thing they need to worry about concerning "hip" is their own. They need to make sure they don't break one while on stage.
 

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Dave & Eddie I think have already had hip replacement surgeries. Wolfie is what 17 maybe 18, he should be good to go?? Uncle Alex is on his keister most of the night, though I think he has had back surgery...
 

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Dave & Eddie I think have already had hip replacement surgeries. Wolfie is what 17 maybe 18, he should be good to go?? Uncle Alex is on his keister most of the night, though I think he has had back surgery...

Alex is basically deaf these days, so if he broke his hip, at least he wouldn't hear it.
 

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Mulli, Andrew over in Australia has stuff on his site before the bands usually do, like the Van Halen pic...
 

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LOL you guys are killing me, didja see the pic? The Van Halens on one side Roth on the other....
 
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