All that's left is for Whiz to admit he's tanking the season...

[MrYeahBut]

This conspiracy is almost Nixonian in its complexity....What?? Cardinalgate???






sarcasm

 

[82CardsGrad]

This conspiracy is almost Nixonian in its complexity....What?? Cardinalgate???

sarcasm

AWESOME!!!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I look at the difference between Matt and DA as the difference between Cutler and Orton. The Broncos chose the unflashy safe QB without a big arm and less charisma while the Bears chose the Big Armed, high risk, innaccurate charmer.

I think we see how that all worked out...

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Whiz doesn't have to tank the season deliberately.

Week after week, with Anderson at the helm, there will be a team on the other side more than willing to help him with all that.

There may be a lesson in humility for Whiz the Almighty, in the not too distant.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I look at the difference between Matt and DA as the difference between Cutler and Orton. The Broncos chose the unflashy safe QB without a big arm and less charisma while the Bears chose the Big Armed, high risk, innaccurate charmer.

I think we see how that all worked out...

Other than Whiz choosing the unflashy, big-armed and less charisma guy over the weaker-armed, high-risk charmer, I see your point...

 

[82CardsGrad]

Whiz doesn't have to tank the season deliberately.

Week after week, with Anderson at the helm, there will be a team on the other side more than willing to help him with all that.

Versus the same teams not being willing to help Matty fail I suppose... Damn Whiz... what are you doing man!!!!

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Listen I am not DA's biggest fan but he has had success in this league and Cleveland is the Oakland of the East Coast.

It failry certain with a better infrastructure organizationally, 10X the QB coach (Wiz>>>>Mangini), better skills guys, and a better stadium to playin 8 games a year that he will be better then he was in Cleveland.

This isn't fantasy football - you don't just take a player, put him in a new environment, and then extrapolate numbers. This the NFL - where system, coaching, teammates, and organization mean a whole LOT.

I am not in love with Anderson's inaccuracy but to think he won't be coached up here is a discredit to the HC. Warner is tons more accurate but you remember how turnover prone he was prior to Wiz, right?

Would seem to be logical to think that would happen here too.

Besides Anderson is just a stop gap. Wiz is just waiting for the right timing to bring in Hall

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Versus the same teams not being willing to help Matty fail I suppose... Damn Whiz... what are you doing man!!!!

Of course they would. But, a guy who has never completed 60% of his passes, and prone to interceptions, almost guarantees that our "D" will be gassed by mid-season.

Give us a prediction on our win-loses this year with Whiz's choice?

 

[D-Dogg]

Warner is tons more accurate but you remember how turnover prone he was prior to Wiz, right?

Would seem to be logical to think that would happen here too.

Whis is going to give him Gloves of Accuracy +3? Sweet!

 

[TheHopToad]

I look at the difference between Matt and DA as the difference between Cutler and Orton. The Broncos chose the unflashy safe QB without a big arm and less charisma while the Bears chose the Big Armed, high risk, innaccurate charmer.

I think we see how that all worked out...

It didn't work out. Neither team made the playoffs. And neither the Broncos or Bears are going anywhere this year either.

So you're saying we're screwed either way?

 

[Crazy Canuck]

This isn't fantasy football -

You sure fooled me...

Warner was a league MVP and Super Bowl champ, who had fallen on hard times. And, yes, Whiz was instrumental in getting him back on track. There is very little in Anderson's background, dating back to College, that can be in any way equated with a guy who may be a first ballot HOF.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Of course they would. But, a guy who has never completed 60% of his passes, and prone to interceptions, almost guarantees that our "D" will be gassed by mid-season.

Give us a prediction on our win-loses this year with Whiz's choice?

All I'll say is that I like our chances for winning more games with Anderson than with Matty boy. Felt this way all along actually.

I like Anderson's chances of putting up more First Downs and more TD's versus Matty.
I think, given that our running game seems to be headed to its' rightful place in the cellar of the NFL, putting up points will be paramount. I believe, IMHO, that Anderson offers a better chance at putting up more points.
Additionally, and perhaps more importantly, I believe that if Whiz chooses Anderson over Matty, it's because Whiz also believes that DA represents a better chance for success versus Matt - which is really all I need to know.
Lastly, I also believe the entire team - INCLUDING THE DEFENSE (see Duckjake), will be more comfortable and confident with Anderson over Matty...

 

[Russ Smith]

I look at the difference between Matt and DA as the difference between Cutler and Orton. The Broncos chose the unflashy safe QB without a big arm and less charisma while the Bears chose the Big Armed, high risk, innaccurate charmer.

I think we see how that all worked out...

Cutler is the same guy, and Orton is about to lose his job to Brady Quinn according to the ESPN talking heads.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Whis is going to give him Gloves of Accuracy +3? Sweet!

Hey, hadn't thought about that but when looking back at Kurt's completion % as a Cardinal, he went:

64.5
64.3
62.3
67.1 (put on the Gloves of Accuracy)
66.1

Wow! Whiz's secret all along was the gloves!!!

 

[Dayman]

We're about to go into the season with a QB who ranked last in the NFL in QB rating for the past two years. One who was outplayed last year by a guy who is now the Broncos third string QB. I trust Whis that this will all work out in the end, but I have to think even he is somewhat sweating the short term.

 

[Russ Smith]

Listen I am not DA's biggest fan but he has had success in this league and Cleveland is the Oakland of the East Coast.

It failry certain with a better infrastructure organizationally, 10X the QB coach (Wiz>>>>Mangini), better skills guys, and a better stadium to playin 8 games a year that he will be better then he was in Cleveland.

The interesting thing is that in his one great year he was a much better QB in the 2nd half than the first. In fact he was terrible in the first quarter and pretty good the last 3. And he was much better when ahead than when behind so while a good half his TD passes were from behind, you can't just say he was padding stats, it wasn't really true.

It's just that other than that one year he hasn't done anything. It just makes it hard to assume that year has any predictive value.

 

[82CardsGrad]

We're about to go into the season with a QB who ranked last in the NFL in QB rating for the past two years. One who was outplayed last year by a guy who is now the Broncos third string QB. I trust Whis that this will all work out in the end, but I have to think even he is somewhat sweating the short term.

Whiz said he wants a more balanced attack. Our running game is always in the basement, so why not start the QB who has dwelled in the basement too??

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Hey, hadn't thought about that but when looking back at Kurt's completion % as a Cardinal, he went:

64.5
64.3
62.3
67.1 (put on the Gloves of Accuracy)
66.1

Wow! Whiz's secret all along was the gloves!!!

Anderson
09: 44.5
08: 50.2
07: 56.5
06: 56.4

Career: 52.9

It's the guy who wears the gloves!!!

 

[82CardsGrad]

Anderson
09: 44.5
08: 50.2
07: 56.5
06: 56.4

Career: 52.9

It's the guy who wears the gloves!!!

Exactly! Don't be surprised if DA opens the season wearing Whiz's Gloves of Accuracy!!!

 

[conraddobler]

Right? I mean, for all of you experts out there that have now diced and sliced both Matty's and DA's numbers to death, attempting to illustrate how Matty really isn't all that bad and that CKW must be brain-dead not to see that Matty is the crystal clear, single-best choice for our team... all he now needs to do is confirm your collective thoughts and state that he is in fact, tanking the season. He is intentionally, in premeditated fashion, purposely dumping this season in the trash by playing with Matty's tender heart-strings and toying with the idea of starting Derek Anderson.
Right? I mean, isn't this what drives CKW?? And moreover, since he is merely the coach and captain of our ship, what does he really know anyway... He can't possibly have considered all of the facts and figures the professors of this board have tossed out. Why would he if he's aiming to trash the season, right?
He can't possibly have a pulse on the team dynamics... can't possibly have a feel for which guy is best suited to take charge and lead this team in a manner CKW feels is required, right?
CKW certainly isn't in a position to take note of how Matty does/or does not do the little things that often-times are unnoticed, but in many cases play a HUGE role in team success, right?

Naw.... c'mon coach! Stop with all of the agonizing nonsense! Just come out and admit it! You hate this team! You hate this franchise! You hate us fans!! And you hate Matty Leinart! Your honesty will be far greater respected than lurking in the shadows as you are!!

Hysterical.

I got news for you buddy, coaches make tons of decisions, maybe I should just pucker up and smooch Whiz's butt like you're doing?

See I've seen other NFL teams, their fans question a ton, heck people questioned Parcells and people question Bill Belichick who was fired from his job his first stint as a HC.

I don't think Whiz has suddenly become an idiot but you're saying he's above reproach in every decision he makes?

Why bother with this message board, why don't we just install a picture of Whiz's arse so we can all pucker up?

 

[82CardsGrad]

Hysterical.

I got news for you buddy, coaches make tons of decisions, maybe I should just pucker up and smooch Whiz's butt like you're doing?

See I've seen other NFL teams, their fans question a ton, heck people questioned Parcells and people question Bill Belichick who was fired from his job his first stint as a HC.

I don't think Whiz has suddenly become an idiot but you're saying he's above reproach in every decision he makes?

Why bother with this message board, why don't we just install a picture of Whiz's arse so we can all pucker up?

Lighten up Conrad... I certainly don't believe Whiz is perfect. He's made some mistakes as any coach will do. However, when it comes to this specific topic, where he has had 4 f'n years to evaluate Matty and STILL isn't able to trust the kid - sorry dude. I don't care what any of the "experts" on this board say, Whiz is THE man and THE authority on this topic.
Don't know if DA will pan out or not. But I do know that the head coach still can't rely on a first round, #10 overall "most NFL-ready college QB ever" pick! And that tells me all I need to know...

 

[D-Dogg]

Lighten up Conrad... I certainly don't believe Whiz is perfect. He's made some mistakes as any coach will do. However, when it comes to this specific topic, where he has had 4 f'n years to evaluate Matty and STILL isn't able to trust the kid - sorry dude. I don't care what any of the "experts" on this board say, Whiz is THE man and THE authority on this topic.
Don't know if DA will pan out or not. But I do know that the head coach still can't rely on a first round, #10 overall "most NFL-ready college QB ever" pick! And that tells me all I need to know...

He should have made this decision earlier then; he took a hell of a long time admiring his results before flushing the toilet. At least he finally has gotten off the pot, I guess.

 

[Duckjake]

All I'll say is that I like our chances for winning more games with Anderson than with Matty boy. Felt this way all along actually.

I like Anderson's chances of putting up more First Downs and more TD's versus Matty.
I think, given that our running game seems to be headed to its' rightful place in the cellar of the NFL, putting up points will be paramount. I believe, IMHO, that Anderson offers a better chance at putting up more points.
Additionally, and perhaps more importantly, I believe that if Whiz chooses Anderson over Matty, it's because Whiz also believes that DA represents a better chance for success versus Matt - which is really all I need to know.
Lastly, I also believe the entire team - INCLUDING THE DEFENSE (see Duckjake), will be more comfortable and confident with Anderson over Matty...

For the 2,597,231st time. Cbus and I were talking only about OFFENSIVE players.

 

[82CardsGrad]

He should have made this decision earlier then; he took a hell of a long time admiring his results before flushing the toilet. At least he finally has gotten off the pot, I guess.

C'mon Donald... How do you know Whiz didn't want to make the decision earlier but was over-ruled? Or, perhaps Whiz really wanted to give Matty a shot this season to come into camp and prove he is worthy of the starting job, only to have the kid prove that he is who Whiz thought he was... We don't know. All we know is that Matty has had 4 years to make the right impression on Whiz, and somehow he has collossally failed. Incredible...

 

[82CardsGrad]

For the 2,597,231st time. Cbus and I were talking only about OFFENSIVE players.

Duck - I can't help but bust a gut everytime you and I get into this one... seriously, I'm LOL right now!!!