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Some good mocks all the way round so far. Some of you did some excellent research and solid reasoning behind your picks.

Looks like there will be 3 wild cards.

1. Boldin trade?

2. Are the coaches comfortable with some of the younger guys such as Cody, Will Davis, Toller, Keith, Herman, and a few others. I suspect they may be more comfortable with some of them then the fans may be.

3. NT and TE. A common theme in most fan mocks. Is either of those positions really seen as a position of need by the coaches?


I really like the idea of drafting a legit 3-4 nose tackle. I recall hearing Bill Cowher and Dick Lebeau explain that the single most important position in the Pittsburgh style 3-4 defense is the nose tackle position. I can't name all the guys the Steelers have had over the years, but one constant on their really good defenses has been a huge, run plugging defensive tackle.

Being a bigtime Alabama fan, I must admit a real bias in favor of a guy like Terrence Cody. Watching him the last couple of years, he brings an "it" factor. Obviously tremendous size and strength, but also a guy who seems to come up big at the most appropriate times and one who is a heck of lot better athlete than most give credit. I really hope the Cards would let him play at a higher weight. Cody even admitted this past season that he feels the strongest and most effective at a higher weight. Steelers nose tackles are not known for their nimbleness. Guys like Casey Hampton are just enormous and strong run pluggers. Cody fits the bill perfectly.

I would love the selection of Terrence Cody!
 

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I would take that draft in a heartbeat. I don't think any of them will be available where you project them to be however. You'd have to get rid of Gresham and move everyone up one notch. Then it still looks OK.
Black is a 3=4th round project mtl.
not necessarily.Here's one sites projections: WalterFootball is a pretty good draft site. All the guys are about where they're projected. Black may have to slide a round but that could easily happen. They also have Cook rated as a safety.

Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
Height: 6-6. Weight: 260.
Projected 40 Time: 4.64.
Projected Round (2010): 1-2.

Brandon Spikes, Florida
Height: 6-3. Weight: 256.
Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.


Ricky Sapp, Clemson
Height: 6-4. Weight: 246.
Projected 40 Time: 4.62.
Projected Round (2010): 2.


Cam Thomas, North Carolina
Height: 6-4. Weight: 331.
Projected 40 Time: 5.14.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3


Jevan Snead, Ole Miss
Height: 6-3. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.72.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.


Chris Cook, FS, Virginia
Height: 6-2. Weight: 210.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
Projected Round (2010): 7-FA


Thaddeus Gibson, Ohio State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6


Ciron Black, LSU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 331.
Projected 40 Time: 5.27.
Projected Round (2010): 4-5
 

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After the playoffs and with Warner's retirement, 2 things are apparent, (1) we will pass the ball less and (2) the D needs to be upgraded. With those two things in mind, the team has finally traded Q. We sent him and our 3rd rounder (89th overall) to New England for the last 2 of their 3 2nd round picks (#'s 47 and 53).

In FA the team did little more than retain guys from last year.
*Matt Ware= re-signed
*Jeremy Bridges was re-signed to be the backup tackle.
*Levi is now penciled in as the starter on the left side. The team has been itching to get Keith on the field IMO and Levi will have it easier at LT than most being as though his QB is a lefty.
*Our biggest acquisition outside of 2009 Cardinals was Baltimore OLB Antwan Barnes. Living in MD I have got to see this guy for a few years and I really like him. He plays the strong side but can slide inside too as well as rush the passer. Stuck behind Jarrett Johnson he knew he wasn't seeing the field anytime soon (barring injury) and the Ravens couldn't match a decent offer on him anyhow.
*Trent Edwards is brought in as Matt's backup
*I think being that the year is uncapped and Rashaad Johnson showed little last year, Rolle may actually get his 8 mill this year. he's a good guy and a hard worker, hopefully he's extended.

1. (26)--Sean Witherspoon OLB Mizzou 6'1 241
Whether it's the right decision or not, Bidwill is not going to OK a 3rd franchising for Dansby. Say hello to Karlos' replacement. ILB was the last place I wanted to go with this pick, buuuut I LOVE this kid. He flies around the field, is a leader, good blitzer, sound tackler and very good in coverage. Keep in mind this is assuming Jerry Hughes is gone. Were he available, he would be the pick and I would target a guy like Pawelek or AJ Edds in the middle rounds.


2a. (47)-- Terrence Cody NT Alabama 6'4 370 (200 in the bra)
I know there isn't a whole lot of live for him after the Senior Bowl weigh-ins, but the fact remains that he is nothing short of dominant on the field. A few years ago this might not have a great idea (Alan Branch anyone??) but with the culture that our team possesses now I dont worry nearly as much. With the hardworking guys on our line (Dockett, Campbell, Robinson, Watson and maybe even Branch these days) I think the kid would have almost no choice but to buy into Lotts' program.


2b. (53) Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest 5'11 189
This pick is a perfect fit for the team's BPA at a position of need strategy. Here is a kid with great measurements (4.4) and a high ceiling and above average ball skills. He plays the run well and is unafraid to lay the wood. He's looked great in the Senior Bowl practices and is currently tied for 4th in my CB rankings behind only Haden, Warren and Kyle Wilson. A little raw, he has a year to learn as the 4th CB behind DRC, Toler and McFadden before Bryant's contract ends after the season. Ghee also returns punts and will immediately take over for Breaston in that capacity. McFadden was yet another poor signing because he's a press corner being asked to play off his man. Ghee is better suited for our scheme.


2c. (58)-- Koa Misi OLB Utah 6'3 244
Here's a guy who may have finally found his niche. After playing DE in college he dropped 20 lbs for the Senior Bowl and looks like a 3-4 OLB rusher to me. He has had a MO of being a workout warrior who's talents don't transfer onto the field, but he sure looked to be getting after the QB consistently last night. granted I only have been able to watch a few series of the game so far, but he does look fluid in the hip and appears to have speed to spare. If he's gone, I like:
Cameron Sheffield OLB Troy 6'3 256
He may be a reach here but so was Brown last year. What I like about this guys is that he comes from a school/scheme that has produced a few stud 3-4 OLBs and he looks great in coverage for a big guy.
*In the event that Rolle is cut, I go FS here, hoping that Nate Allen (South Florida) is still on the board.


4. (122)-- Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky 6'2 254
A beast of a man who is a steal this late IMO. Here's Hayes' backup this year and his future replacement.


5. (154)-- Colin Peek TE Alabama 6'5 250
More running plays mean more 2 TE sets. Becht was on a 1 yr deal and hasn't been resigned and Spach is a quality backup, nothing more IMO. Peek is a tenacious blocker who defenses can't forget about because he has decent wheels and can catch the ball.-----UPDATE---- damn I'm good, Peek just caught a tough TD and showed some toughness holding onto the ball while getting blasted.


6. (186)-- Cory Jackson FB Maryland 6'1 245
A beast that I got to see every week, he's a hard worker and a hard hitter. bets blocking FB in the NCAA last year IMO. Kreider obviously has the experience, but this guy has young legs, plays STs and is cheaper. Whiz's staff has never picked a FB before, but with Matty at the helm now, the position has never been as vital IMO.


7. (218)--Sean Canfield QB Oregon St. 6'3 221
Here's a smart and accurate passer to fight Tyler Palko over the #3 spot QB spot.


Notable UDFA-Chris Hall C Texas 6'4 310
The coaches are high on Sendlein and I can respect that, but the fact remains that we have poor depth behind him. Hall has been better at Texas than Sendlein was IMO and Lyle should be a good teacher for him. As is necessary in a backup center, Hall is versatile and has experience at every spot on the line.


A problem with this draft is that we now have a rookie, another guy who's essentially a rookie (Cody Brown) and another guy who has 9 games under his belt as 3 of our 4 OLBs. My thought is that with the versitilty of Haggans, Barnes, House, Bridges, LSH and Chris Hall we should be able to carry 5 this year.

I know many will go nuts that I didn't grab any tackles, but I dont think the team is hurting for them as bad as some may think. Couple that with the fact that we need a LT and those disappear quick it just didn't happen this year. Switching from Warner to Leinart should help the O-line a ton is pass pro simply because Matty can move a little and won't hold onto the ball as long.
 

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Some good mocks all the way round so far. Some of you did some excellent research and solid reasoning behind your picks.

Looks like there will be 3 wild cards.

1. Boldin trade?

2. Are the coaches comfortable with some of the younger guys such as Cody, Will Davis, Toller, Keith, Herman, and a few others. I suspect they may be more comfortable with some of them then the fans may be.

3. NT and TE. A common theme in most fan mocks. Is either of those positions really seen as a position of need by the coaches?

NT definitely. A good NT can really anchor the d-line and allow for penetration in the A-gap. Whenever I think of an effective NT, I think of Kris Jenkins of the Jets. He is capable of knocking down just about every center in the league. Also, he commands double teams, which can open lanes for the ends. Dockett and CC would really appreciate that. Running up the middle? Forget it.

If the BPA @ 26 is a NT, I would not mind taking one and deferring OLB in the 2nd round.

Of course, if trade Q and at least get a 2nd round pick, this decision would be rather easy to make
 

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here's another site: Cbs draftscout. I am a little off on their rankings on Black and maybe Gibson but not completely out of the ballpark.
Jermaine GreshamTEOklahoma6-6 258 1-2
Brandon SpikesILBFlorida6-3 256 1-2
Ricky SappOLBClemson6-4 248 1
Cam ThomasDTNorth Carolina6-4 331 3
Jevan SneadQBMississippi6-3 215 3-4
Chris CookCBVirginia6-2 212 4
Thaddeus GibsonOLBOhio State6-2 240 4
Ciron BlackOTLSU6-5 331 4

Hoping is free! :)

Also well thought out Cfmd! Nice set of picks also. See above reguarding picks from NE. It would have to be sign and trade, IMO.
 

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Cbus, I would be ecstatic with that mock but I doubt all of those guys are there at our picks, specifically Sapp in the 2nd. I think after the combine he will cement himself as a 1st rounder.
 

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Having just watched the game for a second time, here are some thoughts:

1. None of the QBs in this game looks like a potential starting NFL QB within the next three to four years. The closest is Tony Pike, because of his height, vision and pretty good touch. But, he's a string bean, and was dinged up in college, which doesn't bode well for his pro prospects.

The best and quickest release was Jarrett Brown's, but Brown did not react well under pressure and looks very raw. With great coaching and a few years polishing, he might have a chance.

The best positive energy QB in this game was Dan LeFevour. Every time I've seen this kid play, and it's been a handful of times, I have been impressed with his comeptitiveness and ability to "matriculate the ball down the field." I think of all the QBs in this game, he has the best chance of developing as a starter...but it going to take 4-5 years of grooming. I think he'd be wise to play in the CFL for a couple of years...his style is a fit in that league.

But, because none of the QBs would be in position to take the starting job in 2011...there is no need for the Cardinals to spend any of their first five picks on a QB. I can see them taking a QB sleeper type in the 6th or 7th round...but, unless, as Bucky Brooks forecasted, Sam Bradford is available at #26, don't expect to see the Cardinals draft a QB early in this draft. If the QB class were stringer, I think they would.

2. There's no question in my mind that LB Brandon Graham and DT Dan Williams solidified top 20 picks this week. Thus, there's no point talking more about them as potential Cardinals.

The player that most of you are suggesting the Cardinals' take that is a perfect fit is LB Sean Weatherspoon. What a jolt of energy and enthusiasm he would bring to the team and the home crowds at the U of P. This kid brings great attitude and athleticism to the WILB position.

In the game, Weatherspoon relished the opportunity to play special teams...which says a lot about his character, and proceeded to make virtually every tackle he was in on, including the first tackle of the game on KR Dexter McCluster. Then, in the base defense he was all over the field making plays, as he was accustomed to doing at Mizzoo. But then, when you watch him cover, one play he blanketed the quick McCluster all the way into the back of the endzone where he broke up the pass...and then, in zone coverage he made a nice interception to seal the win.

I think that regardless of what other players are there at #26, if Dansby is gone as we expect him to be, the Cardinals should take Weatherspoon. My worry is the Eagles will take him a couple of picks earlier. If so, that will make the #26 pick all the more difficult. But, I think Weatherspoon will be there.

The other WILB in this game that I think can make an immediate impact is TCU's Daryl Washington. If the Cardinals are unable to draft Weatherspoon, hopefully they can land Washington. Washington is a tall, smooth and sure-footed LB who plays with good instincts. He's not quite as physical as Weatherspoon, but he may be quicker to make the reads. And this guy can cover.

As for NTs...I too like Mount Cody, as he's got such quick feet and agility for such a huge, strong man. Imagine what John Lott could do with him. I think he will slide into the second round and if the Cardinals do pick up a second rounder, I'd be very happy to see them tab Cody.

But, to me, there's no way I take Cody over Weatherspoon at #26. Weatherspoon wn't last past the first couple picks in the second round.

I was disappointed in the edge rushers in this game, other than Graham. I was hoping to be impressed with George Selvie, but was not. The two kids from Troy (Lang and Sheffield) looked tentative and not as sudden as I thought they'd be. Sheffield made one great play, stripping tebow, but he was unblocked on the play. I think both kids can develop, but neither one of them looks like he can contribute immediately.

I did like the overall athleticism of Utah's OLB Koa Misi. He plays well in space. But, he's not the pass rushing threat we need at WOLB...at least not yet.

Last year there were a number of studs (and potential 1st-3rd rounders) on the offensive line... this year they all look like middle to late rounders, save G Mike Iupati (who needs coaching), C Matt Tennant, who looks like a 3rd and T Vladimir Ducasse, who played very well in the game after struggling some during the week. Ducasse looks smooth and natural in his drops and held his position well. He's not a real mauler in the running game yet...but it looks like he can develop as one. But, the man has good feet, agility, strength and balance on the edge...and plays with a little gitty-up.

The DBs were also a very shaky group this year. Boise St.'s Kyle Wilson is a first rounder and is versatile because he's such a good, natural athlete. But, unlike DRC, who made a number of eye-opening pays two years ago, Wilson had a quiet, uneventful game (which for a CB may be a good thing!).

Taylor Mays looked very tight as FS. He's a strong athlete, but he's probably better suited to play SS.

Patrick Robinson has the quick feet, but he got beat a few times, and doesn't look like much of a factor uin run support.

Chris Cook is an interesting prospect because of his height and speed ratio...but he looks like a S who can cover TEs in man and a deep third in zone.

The best hitter was Nebraska's Larry Asante...but his coverage at FS was poor. He looks like a SS. Perrish Cox (OK St.) looks like a hard hitter, but played too much cushion.

Love Javier Arenas (Alabama) as a return man...but his DB skills are not impressive.

At WR, I knew that Mardy Gilyard would shine. This kid is so slippery and is such a gamer. It will be interesting to see where he goes. I think he solidified a first round selection...dang, because I was hoping as I wrote in an earlier mock that he'd be available in the 2nd or 3rd round.

The two sleepers I liked were the Citadel's Ray Roberts (hey we made out well with another Citadel player: Stump Mitchell!) and Pittsburgh's Dorin Dickerson (as an H-back, TE hybrid).

WR Jacoby Ford showed better route running and hands...we could use a world-class speedster like him in our offense. And I think we could get him in Round 3 or 4.

Of the TEs I thought Alabama's Colin Peek was very good, both blocking and receiving. I like the looks of Oregon's Ed Dixon...but didn't see too much of him. And Wisconsin's Garrett Graham has very good hands.

But, the unit that I thought had the most depth and sleepers was the interior defensive line, where I was impressed with all of these players:

Geno Atkins, Georgia
Jared Odrick, Penn. St.
Tyson Alualu, Cal.
LaMarr Houston, Texas
Cam Thomas, UNC
Mike Neal, Purdue
Alex Carrington, Ark. St.
D'Anthony Smith, La. Tech.

If I had to choose just from the Senior Bowl players, here's my mock:

1. Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

2a. Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama

2b. Vladimir Ducasse, T, UMass

3. Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson

4. Geno Atkins, DL, Georgia

5. Leigh Tiffin, K, Alabama

6. Myron Rolle, S, Florida St.

7. Ed Dixon, TE, Oregon

Love Tiffin's accuracy...plus, he's clutch.
 

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If I had to choose just from the Senior Bowl players, here's my mock:

1. Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

2a. Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama

2b. Vladimir Ducasse, T, UMass

3. Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson

4. Geno Atkins, DL, Georgia

5. Leigh Tiffin, K, Alabama

6. Myron Rolle, S, Florida St.

7. Ed Dixon, TE, Oregon

Love Tiffin's accuracy...plus, he's clutch.

Like your thoughts & picks Mitch.

I do find it hard to believe the Cards wouldnt draft at least LB's & 1 CB to a defense lacking at those positions.
 

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Like your thoughts & picks Mitch.

I do find it hard to believe the Cards wouldnt draft at least LB's & 1 CB to a defense lacking at those positions.

I agree Bucky, but I was just going by the Senior Bowl players (I didn't think any of the OLBers there---other than Graham--were a sig. upgrade over Cody and Will...and I was not esp. impressed with the CBs there), and I am hoping that we get one pass rusher and 1 CB in free agency.
 

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I agree Bucky, but I was just going by the Senior Bowl players (I didn't think any of the OLBers there---other than Graham--were a sig. upgrade over Cody and Will...and I was not esp. impressed with the CBs there), and I am hoping that we get one pass rusher and 1 CB in free agency.

I really feel Graham's performance helps Jerry Hughes slide to us come DDay. He will be a beast in time & have watched most of his games the last 2 years living in Dallas.
 

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I really feel Graham's performance helps Jerry Hughes slide to us come DDay. He will be a beast in time & have watched most of his games the last 2 years living in Dallas.

I like Hughes a lot as well, Bucky. But, with the greater need at WILB, I'd take Weatherspoon there over Hughes.

But...if Weatherspoon is gone and we get another 2nd rounder in a Boldin trade, I'd snag Hughes at #26 and hope for Daryl Washington with the first of the two second rounders.

The other wild card here is Brandon Spikes...if he's there at #26 and Weatherspoon isn't, I think we may want to pounce on him.

Beyond Weatherspoon, Spikes and Washington, I am not sure of anyone esle who could start at WILB and make a similar impact. Do you have anyone else in mind?
 

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LeFevour... I like that kid. Good call Mitch! Should be interestinf to see where the goes in the draft. He had a tremendous Senior year. He's got quite the resume and is the alltime FBS leader in touchdowns (150) and is the only player to ever throw for more than 12,000 yards and rush for more than 2,500.
I like his mojo for sure...

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If I had to choose just from the Senior Bowl players, here's my mock:

1. Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

2a. Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama

2b. Vladimir Ducasse, T, UMass

3. Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson

4. Geno Atkins, DL, Georgia

5. Leigh Tiffin, K, Alabama

6. Myron Rolle, S, Florida St.

7. Ed Dixon, TE, Oregon

Love Tiffin's accuracy...plus, he's clutch.

We saw a lot of the same things concerning the OL and QB prospects.

It also seems a lot of people like the NT and WILB combo in the first few rounds. Here is why I like the idea even more. Those two positions are dependent on each other. It is a symbiotic relationship. If our NT is playing well it will make it easier for our WILB to succeed. Since the draft is already a 50-50 proposition why not go with two players who cold help each other succeed thus raising our chances for draft success.

Concerning Hughes. He was supposed to be there at the senior bowl but backout the day of the practices starting. Don't know why he backed out, but he missed an opportunity to show something against very suspect OL prospect group. Any players that says they will go then doesnt at the very last minute I dont like. It shows me two things, they are injured or they don't want to or are scared to put their skills on display against other top talent. Either way it says a little something negative about them. I know the scouts sure as heck didn't like it. They were pissed that Trent Williams and Hughes backed out at the last minute with no reason why.
 
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1. Sean Weatherspoon, inside linebacker.
I absolutely love Weatherspoon. His personality, his leadership, his intensity, his love for the game and his abilities on the field. There is no way I would risk loosing him, by letting him slide to the second round, especially since their is some team at the end of the first that might snatch him up.

I think Weatherspoon could be a great replacement to Dansby. Some thinks he might be too small for an 3-4 ILB, but really, if you look at some of the best ILB in the game, they are about the same size.

2. Jerome Murphy, cornerback.
I believe Murphy is a diamond in the rough. I like his psysical style, and I do think he is pretty good in coverage, though he would need some coaching up there. DRC and Toler will probably start anyway, so Murphy will have plenty of time to pick up his game.

3. George Selvie, outside linebacker.
Players who underperforms in their senior year always makes me think twice about drafting them. But this is what Whis do. He picks these underachievers, who falls on draftday do to the very same thing, and then he somehow makes them live up the their potential. He did it with Alan Branch, he did it with Calais Campbell, he did it with Early Doucet and, to some extent, he did it with both Herman Johnson and Will Davis.
Selvie really could be special, and I think this coaching staff could get the best of him.

4. Matt Reynolds, offensive tackle.
Maybe Reynolds needs to be a guard at the next level, but I do think he is a pretty decent prospect. In a year or two he might be able to hold the left side, which by the way not is Leinart's blindside.

5. Jimmy Graham, tight end.
I was impressed with Graham in Mobile. As a former basketball-player he can jump very high, catch the ball pretty good and is rather athletic. I think he would be a good compliment to Ben Patrick.

6. Taylor Price, wide receiver.
This is one of the really good special teamers in this draft. Price could potentially return the ball all the way every time he gets the chance. Last time this team selected a wide receiver to return punts, they ended up with Breaston. That's not so bad.

7. O'Brien Schofield, outside linebacker.
Really could be some sort of joker in this draft. He is way to talented to slide this far, but an ugly injury during Senior Bowl probably caused him to fall all the way down here. Some team will give him a shot though. After all, it is the seventh round, so to get a player who might be on the roster a year from now is a good thing in itself.
If Schofield can get back to his own level before the injury, I have no doubt that this could be the steal of the draft.

What Gandhi said.
 

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McFadden is only signed through next year, we need to draft one to get ready after this coming season.

Like they did with Brown and Davis the previous year at OLB.

True, the way I see it is we continue with the big nickel going to 3 safeties rather than 3 corners. The replacement for Mcfadden? The new Rolle. He's not a CB, but it is a DB replacing a DB. Maybe not ideal, and probably something I should adjust.. but really any of these pre combine are going to end up more wrong than right.
 

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We saw a lot of the same things concerning the OL and QB prospects.

It also seems a lot of people like the NT and WILB combo in the first few rounds. Here is why I like the idea even more. Those two positions are dependent on each other. It is a symbiotic relationship. If our NT is playing well it will make it easier for our WILB to succeed. Since the draft is already a 50-50 proposition why not go with two players who cold help each other succeed thus raising our chances for draft success.

Concerning Hughes. He was supposed to be there at the senior bowl but backout the day of the practices starting. Don't know why he backed out, but he missed an opportunity to show something against very suspect OL prospect group. Any players that says they will go then doesnt at the very last minute I dont like. It shows me two things, they are injured or they don't want to or are scared to put their skills on display against other top talent. Either way it says a little something negative about them. I know the scouts sure as heck didn't like it. They were pissed that Trent Williams and Hughes backed out at the last minute with no reason why.

Injuries certainly must be considered but he does have a reason, he's rehabbing a Quad injury he suffered during the Fiesta Bowl. Said doctors advised him not to play in the senior bowl. I haven't seen him play so I'll hold judgement on him as a player, but at least there was a reason for his absence from the senior bowl.
 

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I know a lot about two Mizzou players.

Spoon and D Alexander.

Both of them are better than people think, Spoon will IMO one day be a pro bowl LBer.

Alexander has top first round talent, he's been hurt a lot but he's tall and good, great WR prospect, which we don't need.

If we took Spoon I'd be thrilled to death, great heart and soul guy who gives everything he has, and he's talented too!
 

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I know a lot about two Mizzou players.

Spoon and D Alexander.

Both of them are better than people think, Spoon will IMO one day be a pro bowl LBer.

Alexander has top first round talent, he's been hurt a lot but he's tall and good, great WR prospect, which we don't need.

If we took Spoon I'd be thrilled to death, great heart and soul guy who gives everything he has, and he's talented too!

Now I haven't watched him as much as you, but he does seem to be the natural leader that our defense will need. I don't ever think that Dansby was that guy, and we don't have anyone else to fill that roll. Initially I didn't like the idea of him in the first round, but as I think about the intangibles that he could bring I am starting to believe that it would be too big of risk to let him go. I am really torn right now between Dan Williams, Terrance Cody, and Sean Weatherspoon in the first round. Not to mention what the dilemma would be if McClain fell. I really hope that the Boldin situation gets shored up quickly so that we know what options we have in the draft.
 

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Now I haven't watched him as much as you, but he does seem to be the natural leader that our defense will need. I don't ever think that Dansby was that guy, and we don't have anyone else to fill that roll. Initially I didn't like the idea of him in the first round, but as I think about the intangibles that he could bring I am starting to believe that it would be too big of risk to let him go. I am really torn right now between Dan Williams, Terrance Cody, and Sean Weatherspoon in the first round. Not to mention what the dilemma would be if McClain fell. I really hope that the Boldin situation gets shored up quickly so that we know what options we have in the draft.

Well it's tough not to be a homer about the kid, and I'm no draft expert and so I don't know exactly where he'd be a good pick, first or 2nd round.

I don't think there's anyway we'd still get him in the 2nd, yet he may be a reach where we pick in the first.

IMO though he's just about right for that spot and he plays with all he's got, always ball hawking, he's got great instincts and skills and he's a leader, we could do a ton worse.
 

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Now I haven't watched him as much as you, but he does seem to be the natural leader that our defense will need. I don't ever think that Dansby was that guy, and we don't have anyone else to fill that roll. Initially I didn't like the idea of him in the first round, but as I think about the intangibles that he could bring I am starting to believe that it would be too big of risk to let him go. I am really torn right now between Dan Williams, Terrance Cody, and Sean Weatherspoon in the first round. Not to mention what the dilemma would be if McClain fell. I really hope that the Boldin situation gets shored up quickly so that we know what options we have in the draft.

Two things. 1) I wouldn't lose much sleep on that scenario because there is no chance that McClain falls to us in the first place and 2) IF he did fall to us that'd be the easiest draft decision we could possibly ask for ;)

McClain is a stud.
 

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I like Hughes a lot as well, Bucky. But, with the greater need at WILB, I'd take Weatherspoon there over Hughes.

But...if Weatherspoon is gone and we get another 2nd rounder in a Boldin trade, I'd snag Hughes at #26 and hope for Daryl Washington with the first of the two second rounders.

The other wild card here is Brandon Spikes...if he's there at #26 and Weatherspoon isn't, I think we may want to pounce on him.

Beyond Weatherspoon, Spikes and Washington, I am not sure of anyone esle who could start at WILB and make a similar impact. Do you have anyone else in mind?

I think Brandon Spikes will plummet following workouts. I think some of his times will cause him to slide to the middle/end of the 2nd round at least. I am disappointed that Hughes decided against playing in the Senior Bowl.

I would really like to use a late rounder on Jarrett Brown. He has a lot of tools, I think he just needs to be coached up a bit and get some experience.
 

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I think Brandon Spikes will plummet following workouts. I think some of his times will cause him to slide to the middle/end of the 2nd round at least. I am disappointed that Hughes decided against playing in the Senior Bowl.

I would really like to use a late rounder on Jarrett Brown. He has a lot of tools, I think he just needs to be coached up a bit and get some experience.

I am really not up on the prospects yet, so I'm not sure who Hughes is. I take it he's a guy we'd be interested in. Look at it this way: if he's a guy we want and we don't take him in the 1st, it's in our interests for him to have a few questions so he can slide to us in the 2nd.
 

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I am disappointed that Hughes decided against playing in the Senior Bowl.

Hey it may have been a good thing, if he pulled a Brandon Graham and went off at the Pro Bowl he could have played his way out of our draft range ;)
 

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I'm going with our current draft order and no trades.

1) Patrick Robinson - CB - FSU
Quality CBs are hard to come by. Robinson would give us the prefect complement to DRC. He has the speed and quickness to keep up with any WR in the league. He is also physical enough to play press coverage. Watching him during Senior bowl week he reacted quickly and closed in a blink of an eye.

2) Eric Norwood - OLB - South Carolina
A versatile LB that could provide much needed depth to several LB spots in our 3-4 Defense. He showed great quickness during senior bowl week and could come in and compete for time at OLB. He may struggle some in coverage as he mostly played DE in college. However he did show some impressive pass rushing skills last week.


3) Jamar Chaney - ILB - Miss St.
This kid was born to play football. He was named the Defensive player of the game at the Senior Bowl. He will be Hayes' eventual replacement who was also drafted in the 3rd round.

4) Matt Tennant - C - Boston College
Watched him in the Drills during Senior Bowl week. He played with good leverage and held his own against the bull rushers. The coaches really seemed to like this kid. He would provide some solid depth at Center and eventually could push for a starting job.

5) Anthony McCoy - TE - USC
McCoy provides Whis another TE who is a capable blocker. He showed good leverage blocking and was able to make a solid push at the line. He didn't look that great running patterns which will allow him to be available in the 5th round.

6) Alex Carrington - DE - Ark St
Carrington has good size and would help provide depth for Dockett and Campbell. Kind of reminded me of former Cardinal DE Antonio Smith.

7) O'Brien Schofield - OLB - Wisc
I'm with Joe on this one. I really felt bad for the kid when he went down with a knee injury. You could tell it wasn't good when they replayed it. I say take a chance on the kid if he falls this far.
 
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