OT: Cowboys new Stadium

[CardLogic]

lorenzo - Thanks for being a decent poster!

SouthernStar - Enjoy your short stay!

 

[Angel]

I thought this was Jerry Jones' attempt to bring the arena league back......

Not likely since he and his kind killed it in the first place.

In all honesty I have to say I don't really give the Cowboys or their stadium too much thought.

I don't really care, how big the screen is, how much it cost, who hits the dang thing -- though I did idly wonder what happens if it breaks -- and won't until the Cards have to play there. I only watched the game to see the Titans play. It starts affecting my team and then I will start the hating on it, 'til then they are just another opponent in the NFL. I won’t spend any energy on teams not on my schedule, so unless we have to meet in the playoffs the Cowboys don't even hit the old radar this year.

I hope they enjoy their stadium. I'm so seriously in love with ours and the fact that my owners seemed to take an interest in the fans by not pricing us out of it, cause frankly reality check, I could not afford to be a Cowboys fan

 

[crisper57]

I hate the Cowboys, but I think they had a good idea to sell 30,000 standing room only tickets for $30 apiece. Pretty affordable, and with that giant screen, everyone can at least see something. Other than that little innovation, though, I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be. Points automatically deducted for artificial turf...

I don't understand why the screen had to be one massive structure over the center of the field. Why couldn't it have been 4 scoreboards, each hanging over the sidelines and back of the endzones? I don't think that would obstruct any views and it obviously would not hinder the progress of the game.

 

[crisper57]

On another note, don't they have similar issues in baseball? If a ball hits the roof of a dome, isn't it still considered to be in play when it comes back down? Why can't we have a rule like that in football?

Obviously, hitting the board is not a good thing for the kicking team because it will hinder the distance on the punts. If you just keep this as a live ball, the receiving team just gets better field position. Big deal.

Or you could say the board is out of play and the ball will be placed at the spot where it hits the structure...

Either alternative is better than flagging the kicking team for hitting Jerry's shiny new toy.

 

[TruColor]

On another note, don't they have similar issues in baseball? If a ball hits the roof of a dome, isn't it still considered to be in play when it comes back down? Why can't we have a rule like that in football?

The Tampa Bay Rays have an issue somewhat similar to that at Tropicana Field - when a ball hits one of the catwalks:

http://www.mlb.com/tb/ballpark/ground_rules.jsp

 

[crisper57]

The Tampa Bay Rays have an issue somewhat similar to that at Tropicana Field - when a ball hits one of the catwalks:

http://www.mlb.com/tb/ballpark/ground_rules.jsp

This seems like the most straight-forward, easiest-to-implement solution. If the ball hits the scoreboard, so what? Just keep playing like it didn't.

 

[slanidrac16]

This seems like the most straight-forward, easiest-to-implement solution. If the ball hits the scoreboard, so what? Just keep playing like it didn't.

I can just see a booming 60 yard punt hit the scoreboard and boune backward 20 yards.
I don't think so.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

I don't know why Jones or the NFL would think that 90 feet would be enough. That doesn't seem like it would nearly high enough to me.

 

[crisper57]

I can just see a booming 60 yard punt hit the scoreboard and boune backward 20 yards.
I don't think so.

I agree, but consider the alternatives:

1. The League rule is 85 feet high. The scoreboard is 90. Does the league change its rule mid-season? I doubt they would want to do that. If so, you can bet that Jerry Jones isn't going to voluntarily raise the scoreboard. That would be admitting that he is not infallible, after all.

2. The League changes the height restriction before the real season starts. It would also be costly (if at all possible) to raise the scoreboard. I could see Jones fighting this ruling in every possible venue, including the court system. This will delay any real resolution indefinitely. Even if they forced him to raise the board, who would pay for it? Would other owners be happy to pitch in to have the League pay for it? Or Does Jerry have to pay for it, even though the League gave him a green light at that height?

3. The League makes punters re-kick if the ball hits the board. This isn't realistic, since it will put kicking teams at a disadvantage. We've seen over and over that re-kicks result in big run-backs.

4. Jerry Jones has suggested flagging any punter that hits the scoreboard. That is plain stupid because it would create a seperate rule for the new stadium. The NFL won't want to do this.

5. Or we can just play it off the bounce, a la baseball. Stupid? Yes. Path of least resistance? Probably.

 

[O]

I belong to a lighting industry message board and some Dallas area riggers are saying the structure is going to be raised.

 

[TruColor]

You gotta love this - from Deadspin:

http://deadspin.com/5344216/cowboys...-seating-behind-this-brick-wall?autoplay=true

 

[Lorenzo]

NFL not going to raise scoreboard this season per Roger Goodell. He released a short order of temporary rules that apply for this season only for the scoreboard kicking issue. After the SB the NFL will revisit the scoreboard issue based on the results of this season and will determine if it needs to be raised.

 

[TJ]

Bump

IMO, this is going to be an issue every game. Andy Lee from the 49ers also clipped the stadium with one of his punts. I understand it is too late to lift this thing a few feet like Jerruh Jone's face, but the competition committee has to look into this next offseason and persuade Goddell to force Jones to correct this issue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4431406

 

[Toro]

You gotta love this - from Deadspin:

http://deadspin.com/5344216/cowboys...-seating-behind-this-brick-wall?autoplay=true

That is great!

 

[Buckybird]

You gotta love this - from Deadspin:

http://deadspin.com/5344216/cowboys...-seating-behind-this-brick-wall?autoplay=true

Jerry will do anything to make a $$$.

 

[cardsfanmd]

On another note, don't they have similar issues in baseball? If a ball hits the roof of a dome, isn't it still considered to be in play when it comes back down? Why can't we have a rule like that in football?

Obviously, hitting the board is not a good thing for the kicking team because it will hinder the distance on the punts. If you just keep this as a live ball, the receiving team just gets better field position. Big deal.

The Tampa Bay Rays have an issue somewhat similar to that at Tropicana Field - when a ball hits one of the catwalks:

http://www.mlb.com/tb/ballpark/ground_rules.jsp

This seems like the most straight-forward, easiest-to-implement solution. If the ball hits the scoreboard, so what? Just keep playing like it didn't.

The problem with that is that the only two players on the field watching the ball on punts are the Punter and the Returner. Everybody else is trying to get down the field or block. It would be too unfair to the recieving team if the ball comes down and hits one of their unsuspecting blockers in the head and the kicking team recovers.