Way too soon 2026-27 nfl draft prospect watch.

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Well, let's play what IF...
If
we win the Superbowl, we're all heading up to Lake Havasu and staying with @BullheadCardFan for some BBQ and cold beers....;)

Edit: Until draft day.....Woo Hooo...Party time!!!
And Books is baking ;)
Win??
If we "Make" the Super Bowl we all gotta head to Havasu.
Give Bullhead an opportunity to host a once in a lifetime Super Bowl Party
 

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If listed item 1 is true it would be fitting for Arch to play for the Cardinals, no?
The Mannings aren't going to risk their precious to a owner who has shown can't run a NFL franchise.

We can't even get executive and coaches to come here. We had an assistant leave to a college as a lateral move during the season.

The Mannings aren't dumb and they still have a lot of clout in the NFL.
 

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If the Cards get the first pick they can take Manning and trade him. Moore would seem a better fit for an MLF offense.
 

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If the Cards get the first pick they can take Manning and trade him. Moore would seem a better fit for an MLF offense.

I'm intrigued by Moore, but got a whole season to go.

I'll take Moore and a couple picks in selling the #1. Better than taking him straight up and have 1 extra dopamine hit at the end of a dead season.
 

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I'm intrigued by Moore, but got a whole season to go.

I'll take Moore and a couple picks in selling the #1. Better than taking him straight up and have 1 extra dopamine hit at the end of a dead season.
I will disagree. I don't believe there is any positive that comes with having such an inept front office that you lose so much you have the number 1 pick in the draft and then trading that pick to move down for a different QB.

That just seems like the biggest middle finger to your fan base that you can give. Not only are we going to compile a terrible roster to give us the best chance to have a miserable season and the number 1 pick, but then we aren't even going to take the QB we feel is the best and instead trade down?
 

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Definitely would be another example of the Cardinals being a laughingstock franchise.
Better than him refusing to come here pubilically which would absolutely happen.

I don't think he has a shot at lifting this franchise to any kind of noteriaty anyway.

Man I pray MLF is the guy.
 

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I will disagree. I don't believe there is any positive that comes with having such an inept front office that you lose so much you have the number 1 pick in the draft and then trading that pick to move down for a different QB.

That just seems like the biggest middle finger to your fan base that you can give. Not only are we going to compile a terrible roster to give us the best chance to have a miserable season and the number 1 pick, but then we aren't even going to take the QB we feel is the best and instead trade down?

Wouldn't we want a QB that is best fit for the system? I would suppose if Moore is that. If not, fine.

Are you high on Arch? He's gunna be #1 as of now, no? Would everyone love having him? Doesn't sound like it. But some team will want him.

Sure, if there is a QB far and away the best, then we have that option too.

Pretty sure we get the middle finger every year. If we want to rebuild we could do so with extra high picks and a great QB prospect.

But I mean, some don't want the #1 pick and would prefer to win one meaningless game at the end. So in that scenario you get Moore anyway (for example) and no extra picks. Would you prefer that, or are you fine with having #1?
 

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Wouldn't we want a QB that is best fit for the system? I would suppose if Moore is that. If not, fine.

Are you high on Arch? He's gunna be #1 as of now, no? Would everyone love having him? Doesn't sound like it. But some team will want him.

Sure, if there is a QB far and away the best, then we have that option too.

Pretty sure we get the middle finger every year. If we want to rebuild we could do so with extra high picks and a great QB prospect.

But I mean, some don't want the #1 pick and would prefer to win one meaningless game at the end. So in that scenario you get Moore anyway (for example) and no extra picks. Would you prefer that, or are you fine with having #1?
Generally speaking, I am not sure there are many scenarios where the #1 pick is a scheme issue in such a way that you would select a lesser graded QB. Kyler Murray might be the closest I can think of, but I am not aware of the situation you are describing ever happening. If the prospects are that close, just take the one you want. (This isn't to say that I believe Arch is the best QB prospect, just in general).

If the Cardinals are picking 1 and they feel Moore is the best QB, just take Moore. There is no reason to play games with it. Of course there can be small likelihood scenarios that could occur but that is probably such an outlier that it isn't worth discussing until it happens.
 

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Generally speaking, I am not sure there are many scenarios where the #1 pick is a scheme issue in such a way that you would select a lesser graded QB. Kyler Murray might be the closest I can think of, but I am not aware of the situation you are describing ever happening. If the prospects are that close, just take the one you want. (This isn't to say that I believe Arch is the best QB prospect, just in general).

If the Cardinals are picking 1 and they feel Moore is the best QB, just take Moore. There is no reason to play games with it. Of course there can be small likelihood scenarios that could occur but that is probably such an outlier that it isn't worth discussing until it happens.

It's more of a potential QB1A and QB1B situation. We don't know who they would prefer.

The scenario that's looking likely is competition with the Jets. Say we are 1 and they are 2, completely plausible. Perhaps they really want Manning, and we are fine with him (or someone else).

Do you take their offer to jump up?

This is predicated on having the #1 pick of course.

For the record, none of what's discussed here matters in what actually happens, so I say anything that's discussed is all equally (un)important. We all wish for our team to win in the end. We just get to play the loooooong game.
 

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It's more of a potential QB1A and QB1B situation. We don't know who they would prefer.

The scenario that's looking likely is competition with the Jets. Say we are 1 and they are 2, completely plausible. Perhaps they really want Manning, and we are fine with him (or someone else).

Do you take their offer to jump up?

This is predicated on having the #1 pick of course.

For the record, none of what's discussed here matters in what actually happens, so I say anything that's discussed is all equally (un)important. We all wish for our team to win in the end. We just get to play the loooooong game.
Maybe. For me, the different probably wouldn't be worth it because the Jets in this scenario wouldn't have a real reason to offer up much to go up one spot.

For optics alone, I would stay at 1 to take the QB I wanted vs moving down one spot and gaining a 3rd round pick. People may say that I am dumb for that take, but I wouldn't want my team or the fans feeling like I took any lesser quality of player if I am picking 1.
 

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I have a feeling Beck will show just enough to make the decision makers decide they will ride another season with him so a QB in 2027 will not happen and Beck will ultimately fail. This is the Cardinal way.
 

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I have a feeling Beck will show just enough to make the decision makers decide they will ride another season with him so a QB in 2027 will not happen and Beck will ultimately fail. This is the Cardinal way.
Oooh, that may have burst what little hope I had going into the new year...:(
We'll be just ok, and then just ok again...and again....
 

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Maybe. For me, the different probably wouldn't be worth it because the Jets in this scenario wouldn't have a real reason to offer up much to go up one spot.

For optics alone, I would stay at 1 to take the QB I wanted vs moving down one spot and gaining a 3rd round pick. People may say that I am dumb for that take, but I wouldn't want my team or the fans feeling like I took any lesser quality of player if I am picking 1.

Monti can say "we got our guy" while accumulating more picks. Genius! We could definitely get more than a 3rd round pick.

You don't think the NY Jets would pay a bit of a premium to get their own Manning? Maybe, maybe not. But it's certainly plausible.
 

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Monti can say "we got our guy" while accumulating more picks. Genius! We could definitely get more than a 3rd round pick.

You don't think the NY Jets would pay a bit of a premium to get their own Manning? Maybe, maybe not. But it's certainly plausible.
Yeah, if Monti is drafting 1 overall in year 5, I don't think anyone cares what he has to say.

I am not great at setting odds, but I think it's like a 5% chance of this happening.
 

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Yeah, if Monti is drafting 1 overall in year 5, I don't think anyone cares what he has to say.

I am not great at setting odds, but I think it's like a 5% chance of this happening.

It was a joke. I don't think optics matters at all, trading or keeping pick. No one will care.

Any specific scenario is a low %, sure. I'd say it's more than likely we are a top 3 pick. Jets are up there too, and we play them.

Who else will be bad and needs a QB? Dolphins? Browns?

We still have a whole season, there could be one clear cut QB, or 3 that are interchangeable. Pretty much the most exciting thing going into this next season, cause there will be quite the influx of QB's with all this hype.
 
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