Time to add Terrence Cody and run the prototypical 3-4

[Timm Rosenbach]

The Porter news just tickled me pink. We got the pass-rusher that has been lacking for SO long.

I assume that a servicable Middle Linebacker will be added at some point in round 2, 3 or 4. Time to plug the middle with a 340-350 pound monster that every dominant 3-4 has utilized.

Imagine a front of Dockett, Cody and Campbell with Branch and Watson rotating in. That, my friends, would be nasty.

Cody on the board at 26 and the pick should be made within 5 seconds.

 

[joeshmo]

If Sean Weatherspoon is gone Cody right now is my #2 choice.

 

[Catfish]

The Porter news just tickled me pink. We got the pass-rusher that has been lacking for SO long.

I assume that a servicable Middle Linebacker will be added at some point in round 2, 3 or 4. Time to plug the middle with a 340-350 pound monster that every dominant 3-4 has utilized.

Imagine a front of Dockett, Cody and Campbell with Branch and Watson rotating in. That, my friends, would be nasty.

Cody on the board at 26 and the pick should be made within 5 seconds.

I like your logic on this point, just not sold yet on the potential of Cody. I DO want us to take a NT early, (in our top 3 picks). I have a hard time reconsiling that Cody balooned up this off season before the SR. Bowl. Not a good sign about his personal discipline in my opinion. I know that Lott can help him tremendously, but he is already very slow footed, and will only get slower as he ages. I think there is other talent at this spot, which, while it may not have the ceiling that Cody might have, it almost certainly will not have the floor that Cody may have either. In my estimation, Cody is boom or bust, with about an equal chance of doing either.

I just feel that we might do better taking one of the others, Williams, Thomas, or Troupe, to backup Watson until they earn a starting slot.

 

[DoTheDew]

If Sean Weatherspoon is gone Cody right now is my #2 choice.

However I would not be upset if we took Cody because it seems easier to find a good ILB than a good NT.

 

[BigDavis75]

I would have no problem with Cody at 26, I like him a lot better than Williams at NT and the pick would fill a huge need. If we come out of the first three rounds with two ILBs, a NT, and a CB (one of those could be replaced with a WR) I would be ecstatic.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I would have no problem with Cody at 26, I like him a lot better than Williams at NT and the pick would fill a huge need. If we come out of the first three rounds with two ILBs, a NT, and a CB (one of those could be replaced with a WR) I would be ecstatic.

I would replace the second ILB and CB with a TE and OT. I think we may have our CB in Toler

 

[BigDavis75]

I would replace the second ILB and CB with a TE and OT. I think we may have our CB in Toler

That's true about Toler, but we got killed in Nickel and Dime sets last year. If we make the playoffs next year we will undoubtedly see Brees and Rodgers again and we have to be 4 deep at CB, no questions asked. Because of how passing oriented the best teams in the NFC have become, I am willing to spend a high pick on a CB even if he is only 3rd on the depth chart.

I also think we are set at OT. Levi will start and either Keith or Johnson will win the other spot with Bridges as depth. I believe that is all we need there, in fact I would be surprised if we spent any pick on our OL, save a Center late in the draft possibly.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

That's true about Toler, but we got killed in Nickel and Dime sets last year. If we make the playoffs next year we will undoubtedly see Brees and Rodgers again and we have to be 4 deep at CB, no questions asked. Because of how passing oriented the best teams in the NFC have become, I am willing to spend a high pick on a CB even if he is only 3rd on the depth chart.

I also think we are set at OT. Levi will start and either Keith or Johnson will win the other spot with Bridges as depth. I believe that is all we need there, in fact I would be surprised if we spent any pick on our OL, save a Center late in the draft possibly.

Good point on the OL. I do think we ought to capitalize on the incredible Tight End class and grab one in the second or third. How about NT, TE, ILB and CB?

 

[BigDavis75]

Good point on the OL. I do think we ought to capitalize on the incredible Tight End class and grab one in the second or third. How about NT, TE, ILB and CB?

Yeah, I would be fine with that. If we can do something like Cody, Kareem Jackson, Aaron Hernandez, and Sean Lee (thats a bit too ideal, but you get the idea) I would be perfectly happy.

I think whether or not we take a TE early is entirely dependent on how the staff sees Patrick and if they feel a different type of TE would fit better with Leinart's game. I really don't know if we'll draft a TE or not, but I was pleased with Patrick last year and I feel he gets better nearly every time I watch him.

So basically I would want to do NT/WILB/CB/SILB OR NT/WILB/TE/CB in whatever order.

 

[WildBB]

I would replace the second ILB and CB with a TE and OT. I think we may have our CB in Toler

That's a big maybe. McFadden is leaving after next season, and Toler is very unproven. We need another good prospect cb, no doubt.

 

[Garthshort]

I, too, like the idea, now that we have Porter, of drafting a NT in the first round. And while some fans like Cody, just about ALL the experts have Williams ranked ahead of him. My guess we go Williams, Wilson (CB), or Witherspoon, in that order. If we do get Williams, I look for us to go after an ILB, Washington (TCU) in the second.

 

[Early]

Cam Thomas. Best NT in this draft by far. NT is not about size, just look at Alan Branch

 

[Cardiac]

I, too, like the idea, now that we have Porter, of drafting a NT in the first round. And while some fans like Cody, just about ALL the experts have Williams ranked ahead of him. My guess we go Williams, Wilson (CB), or Witherspoon, in that order. If we do get Williams, I look for us to go after an ILB, Washington (TCU) in the second.

Which is why he won't be there at 26 so at least this fan predicts Cody as the pick. If Williams is there then I'm with ya on this.

Gotta draft a CB for reasons already posted.

Obviously a WILB must be drafted.

I agree that a TE would be great since this draft is soooo deep. Probably could snag a good one in the 4th rd.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

The Porter news just tickled me pink. We got the pass-rusher that has been lacking for SO long.

I assume that a servicable Middle Linebacker will be added at some point in round 2, 3 or 4. Time to plug the middle with a 340-350 pound monster that every dominant 3-4 has utilized.

Imagine a front of Dockett, Cody and Campbell with Branch and Watson rotating in. That, my friends, would be nasty.

Cody on the board at 26 and the pick should be made within 5 seconds.

Excellent observation. I am on the Mount Cody bandwagon and it doesn't hurt that he is from my favorite college team. From what I have seen of Cody in college, he is the anti Alan Branch in terms of the ability to play the 3-4 NT position. The first time I saw Alan Branch in a preseason game he reminded me of a John Henderson type of huge 4-3 defensive tackle, but for some reason just not the prototypical 3-4 NT. Cody on the other hand does fit the bill for the 3-4. Absolutely huge in the lower body which seems to be a good physical quality to have for the NT position.

I think Cody's lack of speed is actually a plus in that he understands his role is to occupy blockers and clog the middle. Branch is athletic enough to do other things and that is why he prefers the defensive end position because he has some pass rush ability. Cody is very content with just being an immovable mountain in the middle.

 

[Garthshort]

Most of what I've read about Cody is that he's a two down player. But since teams pass on first down so often, Cody, IMO, becomes a non-factor. That is why I believe Williams is the only NT we'll draft at #26. If he's not there, we'll go to Plan B, either ILB or CB. JMO.

 

[DoTheDew]

Most of what I've read about Cody is that he's a two down player. But since teams pass on first down so often, Cody, IMO, becomes a non-factor. That is why I believe Williams is the only NT we'll draft at #26. If he's not there, we'll go to Plan B, either ILB or CB. JMO.

If Cody manages to occupy two guys on passing plays that means either Dockett, CC, or Porter is going to get a good look at the QB. Really I don't care who we get at NT as long as he manages to do this. It will make our pass rush scary next year.

 

[red desert]

If Sean Weatherspoon is gone Cody right now is my #2 choice.

Ditto.

 

[lobo]

very sensible and a good string of posts. i have not seen much of cody, but the logic is spot on as a good pick. cb depth will be critical as well, don't discount toler as one year under his belt is a big plus. from what i saw he is a pretty quick learner. as far as other db's go, johnson had better have been a slow learner who picks things up after a slow learning curve albeit he looked better as the season wore on.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Courtesy of K-9

NFL Draft: nose tackle breakdown

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Draft-nose-tackle-breakdown.html

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...rd_filling_up_html-2010320&prov=nfp&type=lgns

 

[Duckjake]

NFL Draft: nose tackle breakdown

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Draft-nose-tackle-breakdown.html

Look at that picture of Martin Tevaseu of UNLV! How in the world could anybody move that guy out of the middle?

With a forklift maybe?

 

[Hypothesis]

Look at that picture of Martin Tevaseu of UNLV! How in the world could anybody move that guy out of the middle?

With a forklift maybe?

Very few if any could in college. Teams even triple teamed him with their center, guard and FB this past season and could still barely get a push on him.

You all are going to get sick of me touting this guy, but I'm going to keep on doing so until after the draft. I'd be fine on passing on Cody or Williams if it was certain we could grab Tevaseu later in the draft. He is raw though, and will need time to develop, but with his work ethic and ability to learn, he's going to become a stud NT.

 

[Buckybird]

Look at that picture of Martin Tevaseu of UNLV! How in the world could anybody move that guy out of the middle?

With a forklift maybe?

I know, right.

Maybe worth a gamble late. I just don't like spending a #1-2 on a potential run down only player. Now if the the guy can supply some pass rush...another story.

 

[Buckybird]

Look at that picture of Martin Tevaseu of UNLV! How in the world could anybody move that guy out of the middle?

With a forklift maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EmSnKXjJPI



He has some skills, pretty athletic but also has had weight isssues

 

[Hypothesis]

Heh, I just posted that youtube link right after you lol.

I watched alot of his film, and this guy is relentless. He finds ways to collapse the pocket or cause disruptions in the backfield. He's not going to sack the QB often, but the QB won't be stepping up into the pocket comfortably with any regularity. Martin is the kind of player that will make everyone in the front 7 all the better.

Regarding his weight issues, yeah, he did weigh 417 pounds at one point. He started his career with Arizona State, but a knee injury sidelined him before he could get started. He ballooned up to his 417 lbs, then in a 4 month span lost nearly 100 pounds. He was given a scholarship by UNLV, where he became a team captain and defensive MVP. He has shown remarkable dedication to his football program, and that includes maintaining his weight control.