The Worth of Kyler Murray

[JohnnyCakes]

The way Murray played last year I wouldn’t give a third rounder for him. If he plays this year like he did last year we might have to pay someone to take over his ridiculous contract.

i dont think you could get half of a Vienetta for him after his injury and the performance on the field

 

[Vacard]

Is not about being undersized athlete but toughness and mentality
Other undersized qb's proven already they can be successful
Breees and Wilson

Both played with much more talent around them and a competent NFL SuperBowl winning coach. We’ll see what Kyler does with a coach that has NFL experience

 

[daves]

I can't envision any world in which Murray does so little or plays so poorly in 2023 that the Cardinals are willing to eat a monstrous cap hit to get rid of him... Yet another team is willing not only to take on his contact calling for $32-$52M in annual salary and roster bonuses, but give up draft assets to the Cardinals for the privilege.

 

[Harry]

I can't envision any world in which Murray does so little or plays so poorly in 2023 that the Cardinals are willing to eat a monstrous cap hit to get rid of him... Yet another team is willing not only to take on his contact calling for $32-$52M in annual salary and roster bonuses, but give up draft assets to the Cardinals for the privilege.

The most practical move is to move him post June 1 cut in 2025. Then he could be affordable.

 

[daves]

The most practical move is to move him post June 1 cut in 2025. Then he could be affordable.

Right - but this doesn't fit well with the possibility of drafting a QB in 2024... unless the Cardinals are willing to pay Murray to sit at home for a year while the rookie plays!

 

[Zalixar]

Right - but this doesn't fit well with the possibility of drafting a QB in 2024... unless the Cardinals are willing to pay Murray to sit at home for a year while the rookie plays!

It just happens that 2024 is the best year we have a chance at a top pick and a couple really good QB's to choose from. Kyler may sit or play some to improve his trade standing/value.

Or we take the heavy hit in 2024.

We really won't know what Kyler's got until after the 2024 season, so what happens if he is just pretty okay or gets another injury, or has another collapse? We're screwed.

 

[Harry]

Right - but this doesn't fit well with the possibility of drafting a QB in 2024... unless the Cardinals are willing to pay Murray to sit at home for a year while the rookie plays!

More likely the work the new guy in gradually. I would be happy if Murray played lights out and they drafted 2 impact players with those picks.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Kyler has WAY more value than a 2nd round pick. All of the dead cap money is tied to the Cards, not the team that trades for him.

 

[volcardinal]

If the cards end up with the # 1 pick in 24 you take Caleb Williams, if he would of been in this years draft he would of been the first pick. He is that good. Think about it why are they not signing any high price FA's. There going to cut KM or trade him in 24,
they will take a huge cap hit. This team is being built for 25.

 

[CardNots]

More likely the work the new guy in gradually. I would be happy if Murray played lights out and they drafted 2 impact players with those picks.

fools gold does have a bit of glitter

we will draft two impact players regardless of Murray

 

[daves]

Kyler has WAY more value than a 2nd round pick. All of the dead cap money is tied to the Cards, not the team that trades for him.

Even with the Cardinals eating the remainder of Murray's pro-rated signing bonus, a team trading for him would still be on the hook for salaries of $37M, $18M, $23M, $19.5M, and $34M in 2024-2028, PLUS bonuses of $850K per game ($14.5M per year if he actually plays 17 games) for the rest of his career. A total of over $40M in his first year with the new team and an average of over $40M per year for the duration of the contract.

That's no longer top 10 QB money, but if he's playing badly enough for the Cardinals to jettison him and take the massive cap hit, it's hard to imagine another team trading much for him, knowing they'll have to pay him that much.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

My guess Murray would get a 1, two 2's and a 3.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

If i had to set a value on him right now...

A first and a second.

Once he shows he is fully healed and he can run an nfl offense that value jumps way up.

I tend to agree, people treat him like a safety or something lol. Dallas might pay 2 1's for him. It just depends on the team.

 

[CardNots]

I tend to agree, people treat him like a safety or something lol. Dallas might pay 2 1's for him. It just depends on the team.

Call them