The reffing situation just got uglier

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According to ESPNews, Donaghy in his cooperation with authorities is going to name names on other officials involved with the gambling scandal. They reported that as many as 20 officials were involved with gambling one way or another (even gambling in non-sports related games is a firable offense)

Not all were involved in the points shaving but this looks like its going to get ugly real quick
 

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According to ESPNews, Donaghy in his cooperation with authorities is going to name names on other officials involved with the gambling scandal. They reported that as many as 20 officials were involved with gambling one way or another (even gambling in non-sports related games is a firable offense)

Not all were involved in the points shaving but this looks like its going to get ugly real quick
Ugly? I call it beautiful.
 

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I think Stern will have to explore and revise the refereeing situation. However, I think he is part of the problem and not part of the solution. I know JC is not afraid to clean house. I wish he were the Commissioner but he probably has no interest.
 
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Ugly? I call it beautiful.

Its beautiful in that it proved how big of a mess that the officiating in the league, which most of us as NBA fans knew for the most part anyways.

However it now becomes a matter on whether or not the league can recover from this any time soon. The die hard fans will stay but this may have pushed a very large chunk of the casual fan base away from the league.
 

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Its beautiful in that it proved how big of a mess that the officiating in the league, which most of us as NBA fans knew for the most part anyways.

However it now becomes a matter on whether or not the league can recover from this any time soon. The die hard fans will stay but this may have pushed a very large chunk of the casual fan base away from the league.
It will be interesting to see. Personally, the bad refs had pushed me away long before this. Now, I just now the reason.
 

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Its beautiful in that it proved how big of a mess that the officiating in the league, which most of us as NBA fans knew for the most part anyways.

However it now becomes a matter on whether or not the league can recover from this any time soon. The die hard fans will stay but this may have pushed a very large chunk of the casual fan base away from the league.

It's beautiful because all those smug ass know-it-alls that chastize fans for complaining about refs, are about to get a big FU.
 

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http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavs/9211816.html

Donaghy must have aroused NBA suspicion
Published on Friday, Aug 17, 2007


There had to be clues.

The more you look at the Tim Donaghy case, the more you know it's true.
Someone knew something was wrong with the former NBA official, who pleaded guilty to a pair of felony charges dealing with gambling. His professional sins were too blatant, too outrageous not to be detected by an organization that should be watching closely.

Donaghy admitted that he had gambled on NBA games since 2003. He began feeding cell phone tips to gamblers in December 2006. At first, he would get $2,000 if one of his ''picks'' on a game turned out to be true.
His price rose to $5,000.

Here's a guy with a $260,000 salary, and with a wife, four daughters and a nice home in Florida blowing it all with a corrupt toot of the whistle.
In court documents, Donaghy admitted to ''being in a unique position to predict the outcome of games.''

No kidding.

The men working games with him, traveling with him and evaluating him also were in a unique position. A report on Fox.com reveals that Donaghy's crew led the NBA in personal fouls called and technical fouls over the past two seasons.

Wonder why that would be?

Maybe because this guy was betting the ''over'' in the point spread. That means he bet that the two teams in his game would score more than the average point total that the Las Vegas bookmakers expected.

ESPN reported that in 2004-05, games worked by Donaghy's crew beat the ''over'' only 44 percent of the time. That means the two teams scored less than the average in 56 percent of games.

But in the past two years, total points were OVER the average in 57 percent of the games worked by Donaghy.

That's a stunning 13-percentage-point change. Someone somewhere in the NBA office should have noticed. Or, how about the guys assigned to call the games with him. Gamblers are aware of these things; why wasn't the NBA?

In 2005-06, the average NBA game had 187 total points, but it was 197 in games with Donaghy.

In 2006-07, the NBA average was 188; Donaghy's was 201.
He wasn't just over, but way over the top.

He did it by calling a lot of fouls, leading to more free throws and easy points. He worked a Miami-New York game this year in which five technicals were called on the Heat. The Knicks had an incredible 39-8 free-throw advantage. Yes, the underdog, dysfunctional Knicks beat the spread that night.

No one with the league noticed.

Or perhaps, no one wanted to notice.

The NBA cannot let this go. The integrity of the league and its officials are at stake. Commissioner David Stern has painted Donaghy as a ''rogue'' ref, a lone ranger of gambling.

But Donaghy traveled with other officials. He worked with them after games, evaluating tapes of his performance according to league requirements. Gamblers have strange habits, wild mood swings, an unhealthful interest in sports action.

Yet it appears no one wanted to say anything. In fact, the New York Daily News reported that Donaghy received an ''above average'' evaluation from the league for this season! He worked second-round playoff games.
Makes you wonder what games they were watching.

This guy was at the infamous Detroit-Indiana brawl of a few years ago. He was in the terribly officiated Phoenix-San Antonio playoff game this season. He's like the Forrest Gump of officials: When there was trouble, there was Tim Donaghy in the background.

He admitted he bet on games some that he worked for four years. Let's repeat that: for four years he bet on games.

The number of points in his games changed dramatically a few years ago.
He supposedly was a down-and-dirty addicted gambler.
But no one noticed anything, right?


If that's true, the NBA has a bigger problem than Donaghy, especially if the league keeps insisting it all came down to one bad man. Terry Pluto can be reached at [email protected].
 

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this also makes this Suns season entirely local....f they win the title it will be utterly meaningless on the national scene and questioned until the end of time. This would be much worse than a lockout title.
 

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It will be interesting to see. Personally, the bad refs had pushed me away long before this. Now, I just now the reason.

Well put. I hung in there because the Suns were title contenders, but now that they've sacrificed the remainder of their window for greater profits, my interest in the league is diminishing fast.
 

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Donaghy to share info about other refs with feds
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Updated: August 17, 2007, 6:43 PM ET
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Former NBA official Tim Donaghy will reportedly give federal prosecutors information that will implicate other referees in some forms of gambling activity as part of his cooperation with government officials.

The offenses might not include any criminal activity, but could draw the ire of NBA commissioner David Stern, who has insisted the Donaghy situation was that of a "rogue, isolated criminal."

A report on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York said Donaghy will give prosecutors as many as 20 names of other NBA officials and will detail their involvement in some form of gambling activity. The specifics of the gambling allegations are reportedly believed to include betting in casinos.

Donaghy, who pleaded guilty on Thursday and was released on $250,000 bond, faces a maximum of 25 years in prison when he is sentenced Nov. 9 for conspiracy to engage in wire fraud and transmitting betting information through interstate commerce. He also must pay a $500,000 fine and at least $30,000 in restitution to the government.
 

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If this is true, you can kiss David Stern goodbye. I guess it all comes back and hits you in the face in the end. Arrogant A-hole
 

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I know JC is not afraid to clean house. I wish he were the Commissioner but he probably has no interest.

I disagree. I think JC would absolutely love being the commish of either the NBA or MLB. It would just be a question if he was healthy enough to preform the duties needed.
 

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Well put. I hung in there because the Suns were title contenders, but now that they've sacrificed the remainder of their window for greater profits, my interest in the league is diminishing fast.

Pretty much how I feel too. I don't think I could ever stop being a Suns fan but my intrest has certainly diminished over the past couple years.
 

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Isn't it a little early to determine the Suns aren't going to be title contendors? We lost two bench guys and a couple draft picks, all the sudden now we're not contendors?

I'd also hessitate on believing anything this ref has to say. He lied to the entire league for 4 years, and now his ass is on the line. He's facing 25 years in prison so I'm not surprised he's trying to throw other people under the bus.
 

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I'm sooooooooooooooo looking forward to this stuff going down. I want the NBA to be refed like FIBA, no star calls.
 

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I want the NBA to be refed like FIBA, no star calls.

Me too. I've used FIBA as an example when people tell me the officiating in the NBA is so bad because it is so difficult to officiate. FIBA officiating may have it's flaws but atleast it's consistant.
 

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Me too. I've used FIBA as an example when people tell me the officiating in the NBA is so bad because it is so difficult to officiate. FIBA officiating may have it's flaws but atleast it's consistant.


Consistancy is all anyone wants. As you know a lot of people (even non-Mavs fans) felt that the last 4 games of the 2006 Finals were not consistant at all. I am drooling over this story. . .
 

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I'm sooooooooooooooo looking forward to this stuff going down. I want the NBA to be refed like FIBA, no star calls.

I so wish this could come true. If playoff series were officiated properly there would be less doubt about the better team emerging. A foul is a foul no matter who commits it.
 

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Really hope one of the refs isn't Billy Kennedy, who's a local good-guy.

If this report is true, it will be an indication that the NBA has grown too big to manage itself. A typical business blunder that usually happens to smaller businesses.

And, if true, David Stern is as good as gone. His legacy (some of it a fairy-tale) will be black-marked like no other commissioner in professional sports.

He can thank Magic, Larry, and Michael for turning his midget-self into a larger-than-life commissioner.

To pile on, his demeanor and arrogance when dealing with the press was Napolean-like. I'll be sure to toast a few beers when his ass is thrown to the curb.
 

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Really hope one of the refs isn't Billy Kennedy, who's a local good-guy.

If this report is true, it will be an indication that the NBA has grown too big to manage itself. A typical business blunder that usually happens to smaller businesses.

And, if true, David Stern is as good as gone. His legacy (some of it a fairy-tale) will be black-marked like no other commissioner in professional sports.

He can thank Magic, Larry, and Michael for turning his midget-self into a larger-than-life commissioner.

To pile on, his demeanor and arrogance when dealing with the press was Napolean-like. I'll be sure to toast a few beers when his ass is thrown to the curb.

Co-Sign
 

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If Donaghy can deliver the goods on a number of other refs, that should be the final nail in Stern's coffin. Its going to hit the owners where it hurts and I doubt if they'll wait till they actually feel the pain to act.

In the long run is should help the league, assuming they can figure out how to improve the refereeing because it certainly left most everyone dissatisfied, especially in recent years. At least, they'll be starting out with the intention of improving the refereeing, instead of having an unjustified belief that it was 'world class' already and little needed to be done.

I wouldn't be surprised if the reffing got worse before it got better - there will probably be an influx of new refs and all of them are likely to be second guessing themselves. Worrying about whether they will stand out statistically because that is almost certain to be one of the aspects of their work that will be under more scrutiny. Can you imagine all the make-up calls and non-calls there could be if the refs started to fret about calling too many or too few fouls and not letting things get too imbalanced between the two teams?

One thing I'd like to see is the players, among themselves, deciding they needed to stop kvetching about nearly every call. Maybe they should all be forced to act as referees during practices to see what the refs have to put up with and just how hard it is to get the calls right.
 

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