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So 57 points by 3. Wow...

the kicks only attempted 3 more shots than the suns did last night(88-85), but scored 132 points to the suns 82. the knicks also had 28 assists with crawford(8), duhon(7), and robinson(5) all dishing a bit. the suns had 11 assists against the rockets.
 
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I wish the Suns could trade Diaw to the Knicks in a trade that would benefit both teams. He would help offset the loss of Gallinari.

Yeah, losing "The Big ****" will hurt.
 

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I wish the Suns could trade Diaw to the Knicks in a trade that would benefit both teams. He would help offset the loss of Gallinari.

the suns need a major overhaul to contend in the west. Trading diaw is not even close. Oh wait, perhaps the serious contenders in the west(Lakers, hornets, rockets, Jazz) will suffer some major injuries(LOL)!
 

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I think D'Antoni is doing a good job with very little for the Knicks, but don't attribute all of the Knicks' relative success to their new head coach.

Anybody who has paid any attention to the NBA over the last 10 years should easily be able to see that the Knicks' success should be hoisted on the shoulders of the very guy who has received so much blame for their failures.

Stephon Marbury is easily having the best season of his NBA career. All of the so-called "experts" that have claimed that you can't achieve anything above mediocrity with the self-proclaimed "Starbury" must feel awfully rotten. The talking-heads who called Steph a "loser", who said the simple act of getting rid of Stephon Marbury while asking for nothing in return was addition by subtraction - boy, do they all have egg on their faces or what!

Now, don't get me wrong. I agree that it is always best to get rid of Stephon Marbury at any cost. However, my opinion of there being no alternative route to success has been weakened by the performance he's been able to muster in this admittedly still-young season. I do still believe that getting rid of Marbury is the best bet - not only do you benefit by not having him on your team, but assuming another team acquires him in the process, another team automatically becomes less competitive - but now, I'm at least willing to begin to accept an argument that a team can be successful with Marbury, so long as he doesn't actually play. I used to think that his mere presence could turn a playoff contender into a lottery favorite, but who knows? Maybe he can't titanic an entire team's morale with nonsequitors alone. As Steph might say, "It's not really the way that we played that was the reason we lost. But the question isn't... it's just a game. Basketball is just a game. That's the message that I try to, with my movement, the Starbury movement, that I am trying everyday to do. The most important thing that I care about and for the fans is to win. Turtlenecks faint in the showercap with stucco walls."
 

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I need a daily calendar with Starbury-isms. ^That one is definitely my favorite.^


p.s. S_Nash, arrested development has been green lit for a feature film. stay tuned for more details
 
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Done deal per ESPN.

NYK gets;
Al Harrington

GSW gets;
Jamaal Crawford
 
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A rumor is that the Knicks will also deal Zach Randolph to the Clippers for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley.
 

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They are clearing salary. With these trades they may have an even harder time trying to make playoffs this year, but the Suns took the same approach back in 2003.
 
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They are clearing salary. With these trades they may have an even harder time trying to make playoffs this year, but the Suns took the same approach back in 2003.

Yeah, they are doing a great job so far in clearing cap.
 

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Rumor has it that Isaiah, whom the Knicks still employ, has just re-signed Marbury to a max extension.
 

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Thats the Starbury we learned to love back in the day. If the Knicks have publicly stated that they are moving on, they need to do so in the form of a buy out or trade.
But Marbury will not accept a buyout for less than what he is owed. Basically, he wants to get all his money and be able to play somewhere else. That should not happen. If he were to accept less money, he would have been probably gone already. As for him refusing to play, that should be enough to warrant a suspension without pay by the team.
 

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Good for Marbury. I wouldn't have played either, nor would I settle for less money than contract calls for. If I am the best point guard on the team and coach/GM tell me that I just don't fit into what they are trying to do, I'd be pissed and would not go out of my way to help them in any way, shape or form.
 

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Good for Marbury. I wouldn't have played either, nor would I settle for less money than contract calls for. If I am the best point guard on the team and coach/GM tell me that I just don't fit into what they are trying to do, I'd be pissed and would not go out of my way to help them in any way, shape or form.

Sorry, youre an employee with mind blowing mood and discipline issues getting max money. You do what you're told, not what makes you feel respected, and certainly not what you want to do. Adapt to the new boss' plan or learn to deal with the consequences. He is 100% not the best point guard on the team in that respect.


Marbury is the kind of human that gives Guaranteed Contracts a black eye.
 

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Good for Marbury. I wouldn't have played either, nor would I settle for less money than contract calls for. If I am the best point guard on the team and coach/GM tell me that I just don't fit into what they are trying to do, I'd be pissed and would not go out of my way to help them in any way, shape or form.

You have to take into consideration how Marbury acted last season when he simply left his team without explanation (not to mention his embarassing public interviews). You would give a player like that anything he wants? Please. And in a buy out process the players always give up some money, thats their best interest.

I say good for the league that this guy is virtually not in the NBA now :)
 

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http://www.phxsuns.net/showpost.php?p=60593&postcount=54

Here is a slightly different angle for the Marbury issue.

DA basicly said, we need you for 2-3 games until the roster is full with our new players, and then you could sit on the inactive list again. Isn't that a generous offer? Would you please pour your heart out for this chance of getting show time for 90 min with us?

Steph: Sorry, coach, I can't pour my heart out as if you were God All Mighty. I'd do my duty if called upon that, as prescribed in my contract. But my attitude is not your business after what you have done to me and will do to me later.

What's you guys problem with that, fellow Suns fans? :(

PS: oh, for the flying back to NY midst of road trip thing, I don't recall Steph being disciplined for his deed. This only tells you that his version of the story was the true one, namely Thomas told him something like he could/should go home even though maybe just in the moment of heat.
 
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Twilight zone:

Steph, I'm sorry I don't want to date you anymore. I'll be going out with someone else from now on. I think it's for the best ok, thanks.

Hey Steph, guess what, I just dumped my girlfriend for someone else who can't be here yet. Will you go out with me just for this weekend, so I don't look like a dateless loser? OMG. Why not? You are so selfish.

Genders are mixed or switched but you get the overall idea.
 

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Good for Marbury. I wouldn't have played either, nor would I settle for less money than contract calls for.

The buyout the Knicks have offered would give Marbury the same amount as his current contract. The Knicks are willing to pay the difference between whatever Marbury signs for with a new team and his current contract.
 

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