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In normal years, the Supplemental draft doesn’t mean much. It is only relevant to players that for some reason was not eligible for the normal draft, but who’s college status has since changed, and usually we are talking about maybe five players or so. The rules are that players who lose eligibility – often for off-the-field stuff – and thus can see their upcoming college season disappear, can file for dispensation to enter the Supplemental draft.

But what happens this year? At the time where players had to submit for the normal draft, no one could know how the Corona-situation would evolve, and now there is a very real possibility that no college season will be played, or at least that it will be shorten. The repercussions could be catastrophic for college players. But if there is no college season, how do you calculate the player’s eligibility? Do you add on a year, which would make many eligible for leaving school (the rule is three years removed from high school), and thus making them available for the Supplemental draft? Or do you keep it at status quo, and thus basically cheat the players, adding one more year of their life before they can enter the draft – and in theory make enough money to support their family and such?

So, what do decision makers and players do? Are we going to see a much larger number of players enter the Supplemental draft this year, and if so, how do teams treat it? Maybe some projected high rounds players? Will some teams get further major upgrades?

The process is kind of like a blind auction. The draft order is the same as in the usual draft, but teams are submitting there bid for any player they want. For example, let us say the Cardinals badly want a player they rank as the best in the pool, so they submit a first round bid. No one else does, and the Cardinals are awarded the player, but then loses the pick in next years’ normal draft. The few teams that bid every year very rarely offers high picks. For example, Jalen Thompson was projected as a second- or third round selection, with a slight chance of going in the first round this year, but the Cards got him for a fifth round pick in the Supplemental draft last year, and then they lost their fifth round selection this year.

Normally it is possible to get major draft steals in the Supplemental draft, but again, what happens this year? There is a very realistic chance that it will be wild.

Throughout the years, eight players have been selected in the first round – but the last one was in 1992.

It is unclear when the Supplemental draft will be held, but it is always at some point in July.
 
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I certainly don’t want to be disrespectful to Cardpa, and he might very well be right. I just don’t think we can use the thought for much now.

1 – Because of what I mentioned.

2 – Because no national has reported otherwise, and some seem to think the draft will happen. I just saw now that a reporter with Yahoo reported that players would not be eligible, but I don’t know this reporter, and do not trust the report blindly.

3 – The post are almost two weeks old, and as everyone knows, the situation can change all the time these days.
 

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles...aft-wont-be-significantly-altered-by-covid-19

Players who enter the supplemental draft normally do so if their eligibility for the upcoming season is in jeopardy due to academic issues, suspensions or other factors. Thamel added that the NFL is "making clear behind the scenes" that those who enter the 2020 supplemental draft must do so for similar reasons.

If Thamel's report is accurate, that means a top prospect who was eligible to enter the 2020 NFL draft such as Clemson running back Travis Etienne will not be able to enter the supplemental draft unless he can prove some type of hardship not related to coronavirus.
 

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The league has made it known in college football circles that it plans no significant changes to the supplemental draft to account for the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Pete Thamel of Yahoo.

That’s no surprise. As Florio noted on Sunday, the NFL isn’t eager to undermine college football, which provides the league with a free player development system that has been very successful and very lucrative for decades. An influx of players bolting from college football to the NFL this summer might benefit those players, but it doesn’t benefit either the NFL or the NCAA, and the NFL and NCAA aren’t going to make it easy for those players.


So the supplemental draft will go on as usual, with only a handful of players eligible
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-nfl-won-t-allow-145230589.html
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The NFL is trying to figure what the colleges are going to do. There’s talk of suing the NFL if there’s no college season and they aren’t allowed to go to the NFL. Does sound like a decent restraint of trade action. The NFL has always counted on government support but do colleges want to give full scholarships and carry players who don’t want to go to class? Under the counter money may be hard for the players to find. Frankly, no one knows where this is going.
 

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I certainly don’t want to be disrespectful to Cardpa, and he might very well be right. I just don’t think we can use the thought for much now.

1 – Because of what I mentioned.

2 – Because no national has reported otherwise, and some seem to think the draft will happen. I just saw now that a reporter with Yahoo reported that players would not be eligible, but I don’t know this reporter, and do not trust the report blindly.

3 – The post are almost two weeks old, and as everyone knows, the situation can change all the time these days.

No worries Gandhi, I always enjoy reading your posts, I just figured it's the easy way out for all those making decisions about the supplemental draft. Based on other posts, it sounds as if there is going to be some type of draft. Based on the post by Dr. Jones "Players who enter the supplemental draft normally do so if their eligibility for the upcoming season is in jeopardy due to academic issues, suspensions or other factors.", with colleges being closed, how do you determine academic issues since classes aren't being held? I imagine both the NFL and the NCAA are stepping carefully around this issue. Then in Harry's post he mention talk about lawsuits, it's getting kind of crazy and people are putting the cart before the horse.

In another vein, those who choose to enter the supplemental draft and do not get selected, what happens to their status? Do they become some type of free agent, I can't imagine they can go back and play college ball. Do they enter the normal draft the next year or do they just fall off the radar?
 
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No worries Gandhi, I always enjoy reading your posts, I just figured it's the easy way out for all those making decisions about the supplemental draft. Based on other posts, it sounds as if there is going to be some type of draft. Based on the post by Dr. Jones "Players who enter the supplemental draft normally do so if their eligibility for the upcoming season is in jeopardy due to academic issues, suspensions or other factors.", with colleges being closed, how do you determine academic issues since classes aren't being held? I imagine both the NFL and the NCAA are stepping carefully around this issue. Then in Harry's post he mention talk about lawsuits, it's getting kind of crazy and people are putting the cart before the horse.

I think you are spot on, Cardpa! It is a circus, and no one really know what is going to happen. I think there is a little “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” about it, because on one hand it seems unfair to the schools to let the players leave, and on the other hand it seems unfair to the players to force them to stay. There are multiple aspects, but I think those two are the very gist of it.

In another vein, those who choose to enter the supplemental draft and do not get selected, what happens to their status? Do they become some type of free agent, I can't imagine they can go back and play college ball. Do they enter the normal draft the next year or do they just fall off the radar?

They become free agents. In that way, entering the supplemental draft is like entering the usual draft.
 

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Penei Sewell is so good. He is the Pace/Ogden type OT people on this board wanted.
 

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If Sewell came out (Not going to happen) MULTIPLE teams would offer up their 1st. I would hope the Cards would be one of them.
 

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Since next years pick will be quite a bit lower should the team go in the direction?
I would. Depending on if Jones pans out, it could create a really nice tackle combo. Big problem would be that both of their contracts would expire at the same time.

Maybe the Skins would trade Hump for Scherff. Who knows.
 
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Penei Sewell is so good. He is the Pace/Ogden type OT people on this board wanted.


Will you tell me more about Sewell, Chopper? In your opinion, is he that good that you would take the loss on either a big contract or a day two draft selection to make room for him?

By the way, I say it that way because one of them would not be playing tackle. Not because the Cards would necessarily send them away.
 

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Say Sewell somehow is ends up in Supplemental Draft (doubt it as he seems to love it at ORE and doesn't look to be an academic risk) how do 1st round bids get prioritized? Would they go by 2020 draft order? If that's the case we have no shot at him. CIN, NYG, MIA & LAC all got their QB's so they won't be after Lawrence next year but all could use a franchise LT to protect their QB's. I know NYG took Thomas but I could see them taking Sewell to form a potentially great bookend for Jones & Barkley long term. Sewell is a pipe dream for ARZ no matter how you look at it.

But two guys who could be possibilities if they somehow ended up in Supplemental Draft would be Patrick Surtain II and Halmicar Rashed Jr. Right now, those are my early 2021 Draft ARZ draft pick hopefuls.
 
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Say Sewell somehow is ends up in Supplemental Draft (doubt it as he seems to love it at ORE and doesn't look to be an academic risk) how do 1st round bids get prioritized? Would they go by 2020 draft order? If that's the case we have no shot at him. CIN, NYG, MIA & LAC all got their QB's so they won't be after Lawrence next year but all could use a franchise LT to protect their QB's. I know NYG took Thomas but I could see them taking Sewell to form a potentially great bookend for Jones & Barkley long term. Sewell is a pipe dream for ARZ no matter how you look at it.

But two guys who could be possibilities if they somehow ended up in Supplemental Draft would be Patrick Surtain II and Halmicar Rashed Jr. Right now, those are my early 2021 Draft ARZ draft pick hopefuls.


Yes, it is the draft order.

Oh, and put me up for Surtain, based on what I have read.
 
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