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I'm kind of sick of the Suns sucking, which they've done for 13 of the last 15 seasons. It's not like Suns fans are bitching just to bitch. Outside of one run to the Finals and 64 wins the next season, the overwhelming majority of the last 15 years have been overwhelmingly bad to awful.We didn't cave to KD, Golden State said no to that trade when KD said he didn't want to go there. That simple.
Don't you get sick of Suns fans consistently putting the fault of EVERYTHING on the Suns?
you leave dunn in his natural dennis rodman form - oso on the other hand - if he can't develop a jumpshot he could use another 40 or 60 poundsDraft Ace Bailey, Derrick Queen or perhaps Nolan Traore. We need bigs and a PG to get the ball out of the hands of Booker and Green and Beal. Hopefully they can flip Brooks and Green + Allen for picks or a position of need.
Can Dunn put on weight to play some PF without losing his speed and quickness?
I took a gander at the first few pages of the KD to Suns thread and it painfully reminded me of how things went almost as bad as they possibly could.We didn't cave to KD, Golden State said no to that trade when KD said he didn't want to go there. That simple.
Don't you get sick of Suns fans consistently putting the fault of EVERYTHING on the Suns? Why are other front office infallible. Something bad happens, it's ALWAYS the front office's fault. And many times, we would take the fault away from James Jones and put it solely on Ishbia. That makes no sense in a multi-million dollar enterprise.
LOL. Suns fans bitch just to bitch all the time! You know that. It's how we've always been. Yes, I don't want us to suck either, but that is irrelevant to my point..
I'm kind of sick of the Suns sucking, which they've done for 13 of the last 15 seasons. It's not like Suns fans are bitching just to bitch. Outside of one run to the Finals and 64 wins the next season, the overwhelming majority of the last 15 years have been overwhelmingly bad to awful.
LOL 23 year old superstar?xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
I know you hated that Beal deal as well, but with KD gone, do you see a world where Beal actually starts showing his value more? As you said, KD has a style, and his stature dictated that we follow that style or else. That's out the door now, so it will be interesting to see what this team looks like.Hmmmmmm... I dunno. I have a hard time imagining a more pathetic package.
If we don't score a hit with this draft pick, IMO, we traded Durant for an even worse cap position and absolutely nothing else.
For all this blabber about us needing to get under the second apron, we just added contract guarantees nearly 3 times what Durant is owed, for two players who, I expect, we cannot get off of without incentivizing someone.
You could remove Durant from the equation entirely and I still think this trade only compounds our disaster.
im not saying beal having a ntc is a good thing lol but hopefully ish is alot better at this in 2 years
how so? the Suns fans bitch because the team almost universally gives us reason to bitch. we've been awful for the majority of the last 15 years. that's why there's so much bitching and why it's relevant to the point.LOL. Suns fans bitch just to bitch all the time! You know that. It's how we've always been. Yes, I don't want us to suck either, but that is irrelevant to my point.
Huh? Golden State pulled out of the trade because KD said he didn't want to go there. But yet, you are blaming the Suns for it. That's what the post was about. We take things that aren't our fault and spin it to be our fault.how so? the Suns fans bitch because the team almost universally gives us reason to bitch. we've been awful for the majority of the last 15 years. that's why there's so much bitching and why it's relevant to the point.
Huh? Golden State pulled out of the trade because KD said he didn't want to go there. But yet, you are blaming the Suns for it. That's what the post was about. We take things that aren't our fault and spin it to be our fault.
That's not to say there's a lot that isn't our fault, but this isn't one of them. The fact that the Suns helped come up with the framework of that deal that Golden State was willing to accept is a positive. We don't have control if GS pulls out because of KD's prima donna act.
What do you mean so what? If the Suns want to trade up in a round using existing assets they can't. Why would the Suns want to hog tie themselves from having that option?So what? The difference in value between the #26 pick and the #30 pick is minimal. I understand wanting to be precise, but as a practical matter "the end of the first round" is sufficiently accurate.
Are you assuming we are done moving money off the Books? I mean Ishbia said himself they eventually have to get under the 2nd Apron because he doesn't want our future drafts impacted. I wouldn't recall when that penalty kicks in. That is not "blabber". That is from the owner. Now if you feel we are done? I agree with you. Adding contracts that continue to put us over the 2nd Apron makes no sense if and when that penalty kicks in.Hmmmmmm... I dunno. I have a hard time imagining a more pathetic package.
If we don't score a hit with this draft pick, IMO, we traded Durant for an even worse cap position and absolutely nothing else.
For all this blabber about us needing to get under the second apron, we just added contract guarantees nearly 3 times what Durant is owed, for two players who, I expect, we cannot get off of without incentivizing someone.
You could remove Durant from the equation entirely and I still think this trade only compounds our disaster.
We didn't have to ask him - we didn't need his permission to trade him anywhere. They should have taken whatever value they could have gotten at the trade deadline vs. this debacle.We didn't cave to KD, Golden State said no to that trade when KD said he didn't want to go there. That simple.
This is one of the most hilarious assertions here...well, ever. WHO DO YOU THINK IS IN CHARGE OF AN ORGANIZATION AND THE DECISIONS MADE CHAP?!?Don't you get sick of Suns fans consistently putting the fault of EVERYTHING on the Suns? Why are other front office infallible. Something bad happens, it's ALWAYS the front office's fault. And many times, we would take the fault away from James Jones and put it solely on Ishbia. That makes no sense in a multi-million dollar enterprise.
YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION. We were prepared to do it. KD told Golden State he didn't want to go there, so Golden State said no, not us. Why is this so difficult to understand?We didn't have to ask him - we didn't need his permission to trade him anywhere. They should have taken whatever value they could have gotten at the trade deadline vs. this debacle.
Durant is obviously a huge part of the reason our return was so weak for him. Refusing to play ball and making it very clear where he wanted to go was a huge impediment.
I don't think any of us here will remember the last 2.5 years with any fondness.
You're just going to ignore the fact that I literally just posted this:YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION. We were prepared to do it. KD told Golden State he didn't want to go there, so Golden State said no, not us. Why is this so difficult to understand?
It is whining, it's what Suns fans do. But don't alter history because of hatred you have for the organization. The Suns have done plenty bad in all this, no need to pile it on with stuff that isn't even true.![]()
Suns out-leveraged in Kevin Durant trade with low return
It was never going to be a home run for the Phoenix Suns this offseason when trading Kevin Durant but this contact off the bat isn't even leaving the infield.arizonasports.com
Kellan with some actual analysis. @Chaplin - please read to educate yourself on how the Suns royally screwed this all up nearly every step of the way.
(Can't wait for this to be called whining...we should be more grateful to be the new Bulls/Kings, right?)
Yep, the biggest kick in the nuts was the fact that we all thought KD was going to have us as final contenders for at least 2-3 years. We never even came close.This last season was one of the worst Suns seasons I can remember because it was devoid of hope.
Yes, so what? You implied that it was the Suns that pulled the deal because Durant said he didn't want to go there, when that wasn't the case.You're just going to ignore the fact that I literally just posted this:
"Durant is obviously a huge part of the reason our return was so weak for him. Refusing to play ball and making it very clear where he wanted to go was a huge impediment."
Lol. Nothing to discuss on the basketball end, just attacking Suns fans for not jumping for joy for getting a turn sandwich.It is whining, it's what Suns fans do. But don't alter history because of hatred you have for the organization. The Suns have done plenty bad in all this, no need to pile it on with stuff that isn't even true.
YOU AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION. We were prepared to do it. KD told Golden State he didn't want to go there, so Golden State said no, not us. Why is this so difficult to understand?