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I guess it depends on what we get for KD. We could retain some of the returning assets.

If I had a choice to build a team around GA or Booker I'm going with GA, it's not even close.

We need a more balanced team built around big athletic players that can score and defend. At the very least GA and Beal would be a more effective combo than Booker and Beal.

There's no chance we get Giannis, especially for Booker. He'd kill a deal to come here to play with Beal and spare parts. He might as well stay in Milwaukee.

What sucks is we'd be in prime position to go for him if we hadn't bet the farm on KD 2 years ago. Paying a premium for a player who is 1 extension away from retirement isn't a good path forward. Especially when you sacrifice as much as we did.
 

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If Giannis becomes available, trade Booker for him and send KD to Houston.
Sure why not also get Joker and SGA to boot.

It is insane to think Booker is anywhere near enough to get Giannis, or that he would want to come here to play with a bunch of G-leaguers.

I don't think Houston wants KD because he is so old, they may settle for him eventually, but don't expect a very good offer.
 

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I guess it depends on what we get for KD. We could retain some of the returning assets.

If I had a choice to build a team around GA or Booker I'm going with GA, it's not even close.

We need a more balanced team built around big athletic players that can score and defend. At the very least GA and Beal would be a more effective combo than Booker and Beal.
I agree it would be easier to build around GA than Devin. But we'd have the same problem, we just don't have enough assets to put together a competitive roster. And we'd get Giannis by parting with our two best players, GA is better than Book but he isn't good enough to make up for both of those players. If we get a rotation player plus picks in the KD trade, Milwaukee is going to want the picks and then we're back to having no way to improve year to year until we get back to level with future draft value.
 

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giannis has been to the top and is likely looking for the quickest route back - if we don't have either book or kd in phx - we're not even on his radar
 

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Suns aint' into rebuilding yet, there is not much value to their picks owed to Houston.
What are you talking about? The picks owed to Houston are gold, as we're going to be terrible for awhile.
 

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I agree it would be easier to build around GA than Devin. But we'd have the same problem, we just don't have enough assets to put together a competitive roster. And we'd get Giannis by parting with our two best players, GA is better than Book but he isn't good enough to make up for both of those players. If we get a rotation player plus picks in the KD trade, Milwaukee is going to want the picks and then we're back to having no way to improve year to year until we get back to level with future draft value.

I'd rather have GA than KD and Booker. We'd at least have 1 player that can anchor a championship team, vs. 0.

I would love to have draft pics but we aren't drafting out of this mess if Booker is our best player. secure GA, and clear cap space for FA signings.

For the record, the chance of GA coming here is slim to none, but I'd do whatever it takes to make that happen if at all possible.
 

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I'd rather have GA than KD and Booker. We'd at least have 1 player that can anchor a championship team, vs. 0.

I would love to have draft pics but we aren't drafting out of this mess if Booker is our best player. secure GA, and clear cap space for FA signings.

For the record, the chance of GA coming here is slim to none, but I'd do whatever it takes to make that happen if at all possible.

We have no path forward where Giannis would contend here. Centerpiece or not he's not leaving a dire situation for a worse situation. There's no reality it happens. It is going to take 3-4 years before we can even talk about competing for a championship realistically. We need to hang onto every pick we have and clear money.
 

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What are you talking about? The picks owed to Houston are gold, as we're going to be terrible for awhile.

Totally agreed. This year's alone is slotted top 10, and with the flatter lottery odds, moving up into the top 3 wouldn't be that surprising.
 

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The more I think about it, the right thing to do is trade Booker to Houston for a haul. Send KD to the highest bidder. Rebuild around Green, Smith, Dunn and a haul of picks.

Booker is due for a 2 year $150 million extension. I love Booker, but he is not the guy.
 

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You can't pay a top 15-20 player ultra max (75m per year) money. Book seems to have hit his peak, and unless you're a top 5-10 guy, you shouldn't be making that kind of money. It'll just be impossible to build a championship team around Book with those constraints.
 

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Ishbia should tell Booker he can have extension at his current salary or be dealt. In order to build a contender around him he can't make mega max money. That's not a pay cut but its not a raise. He can take it or go. That would reveal whether he's willing to sacrifice to win.

They can build in incentives also, if need be. Finals appearance pays big. Anything else, nothing. That way his sacrifice could pay off. Get creative.

Brunson took a lesser deal last summer to allow the Knicks more flexibility and stars will need to do that due to the apron restrictions. Only the cream of the crop are worth true max money always.
 

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I'm willing to say goodbye to Booker. I like him, and he's been most of the only reason to be invested in the Suns for more than half the years he's been here. But the reality is he has proven not to be a player you can build around as your centerpiece.

He's a very nice secondary star at optimum and trying to make him anything else is folly. If you pay him in such a way that you cripple the rest of your roster, that would be irresponsible if you really have winning a title as your ultimate goal.

That approach might have a ghost of a chance if the Suns were stocked with future draft choices to build around him inexpensively, but we all know that circumstance.
 

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You can't pay a top 15-20 player ultra max (75m per year) money. Book seems to have hit his peak, and unless you're a top 5-10 guy, you shouldn't be making that kind of money. It'll just be impossible to build a championship team around Book with those constraints.

This is where I'm at. Booker is great but I don't think you can realistically win a championship with him as your best player. Paying him 75m is going to make it more difficult.

We've paired Booker with 5 lottery pics, and a couple star players in KD and CP3 and it hasn't worked.
 

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This is where I'm at. Booker is great but I don't think you can realistically win a championship with him as your best player. Paying him 75m is going to make it more difficult.

We've paired Booker with 5 lottery pics, and a couple star players in KD and CP3 and it hasn't worked.
Yeah, it's also hard because Book is one of the best Suns players of all time, and the Valley loves him and feels more connected to him than pretty much any other Suns star.

You can't replace him, but from a basketball standpoint, his value to other teams will never be higher.

The unintended consequence of the ultra max is that it forces teams to make one of two terrible choices - a moderate superstar like Book is a classic example. Either you overpay a guy that doesn't necessarily deserve it, or you risk insulting him by offering less.
 

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teams will eventually quit paying steak prices for hamburger - even the organic grass fed top shelf hamburger - you can't build a menu around hamburger when you're overpaying for it - you can - but it's hard to cook wearing two aprons

there are less than 10 quality cut highly marbled well aged steaks in the nba - but look at who gets paid the most lol

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If Book would take a Jamal Murray or SGA salary, that would be great.
 
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