Suns @ Bulls Wednesday game thread, 11-8-2023

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The Suns finish their three game road trip at the Bulls on Wednesday. Afterward they return home to play the Lakers, Thunder and Timberwolves.

Phoenix is now 3-4 for the season and looking to get all their stars healthy.

When: Wednesday, 11-8-2023

Television: Suns Live, Arizona's Family 3TV / Arizona's Family Sports

Radio: KMVP 98.7 / S: KSUN

Time: 6 PM Arizona time
 
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Hopefully Kevin Durant is giving a hint about Beal's return.

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Look for Devin Booker and Bradley Beal to return in the next 7-10 days with the chance of Beal playing against the Bulls on Wednesday or on Friday against the Lakers.

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This may prove to be correct, but I will wait for the NBA injury report and other trusted sources to report it.
 
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The Bulls play the Jazz at home tonight. They are currently leading. Prior to tonight, the Bulls have lost their last three games.
 

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One thing tho - the pecking order is being established quicker with Book and Beal out - we're talking what? 60+ minutes divided amongst our new weaponry

All I know is if cream rises to the top than Eric Gordon rules everything around me - dollar dollar bill yall

Although I think we've been leaning on him too much lately - we know what he can do but he can't do it night in night out all year long

Allen - when he's on he's grrrrrrreat - but when he's off you might as well start searching because we haven't seen him turn it around in a game yet - he's no Eric Gordon but theoretically - with Allen - Gordon won't have to do it on his own

I like the way Vogel is tinkering - getting Diop in there instead of staying with the Okogie/Allen combo was nice - I like he kept Yuta in there even tho his shot was off - because he was playing defense and battling for boards

Eubanks kicks ass - definitely brings a different tempo - it's not the size of the Eubanks in the fight - it's about giving it 110% and asking for more

Goodwin - we've all seen it - defense too - I'd like to see he and Beal sharing minutes if we're looking speed the game up

Once we're healthy Vogel won't have to search for offense - hopefully he'll be able to implement some defense
 
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The Bulls are terrible, maybe the most rudderless team in the league.

DeRozan is a solid player who is in the wrong era, in the 80s he'd be a beast, in the 2020s his impact is very marginal. LaVine is a classic ball hog who doesn't seem to give a crap about anything but trying to create his own highlights.
 

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The Bulls are terrible, maybe the most rudderless team in the league.

DeRozan is a solid player who is in the wrong era, in the 80s he'd be a beast, in the 2020s his impact is very marginal. LaVine is a classic ball hog who doesn't seem to give a crap about anything but trying to create his own highlights.

The Bulls thought they were building a super team with a bunch of guys who are #3's at best. I think DeRozen, Vucevic, and Lavine could all be the #3 on a contender. None of them are leaders and even though they skill sets don't necessarily overlap with each other they don't fit well together either.

Vucevic is a big Euro with a nice shot who can get you 16 & 10 pretty regularly without much issue but he's not a rim protector and plays more like a PF than C but at 7' and how slow he is, he's not going to be used as a PF in today's NBA.

DeMar is a midrange assassin. Quite possibly the only guy in the league better at getting buckets between 12-18' than Paul or Booker but he's never expanded his range and won't shoot more than 1 or 2 3's in a game, which will probably clank out. Using him as a PF seems weird too. He's a wing but if he won't shoot from outside, whatever.


LaVine did seem to be on the verge of breaking out 2-3 years ago but he's settled for being the Jerami Grant of Guards. Someone who won't give maximum effort beyond achieving a respectable stat line that commands a top tier salary.
 

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One thing tho - the pecking order is being established quicker with Book and Beal out - we're talking what? 60+ minutes divided amongst our new weaponry

All I know is if cream rises to the top than Eric Gordon rules everything around me - dollar dollar bill yall

Although I think we've been leaning on him too much lately - we know what he can do but he can't do it night in night out all year long

Allen - when he's on he's grrrrrrreat - but when he's off you might as well start searching because we haven't seen him turn it around in a game yet - he's no Eric Gordon but theoretically - with Allen - Gordon won't have to do it on his own

I like the way Vogel is tinkering - getting Diop in there instead of staying with the Okogie/Allen combo was nice - I like he kept Yuta in there even tho his shot was off - because he was playing defense and battling for boards

Eubanks kicks ass - definitely brings a different tempo - it's not the size of the Eubanks in the fight - it's about giving it 110% and asking for more

Goodwin - we've all seen it - defense too - I'd like to see he and Beal sharing minutes if we're looking speed the game up

Once we're healthy Vogel won't have to search for offense - hopefully he'll be able to implement some defense

Little's stats so far, and he has been benched.

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Goodwin's stats so far, his 2pt % is even worse. I can't wait for either Book, Beal or even Saben at this point.

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These two have been pretty terrible on offense.
 
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Little's stats so far, and he has been benched.

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Goodwin's stats so far, his 2pt % is even worse. I can't wait for either Book, Beal or even Saben at this point.

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These two have been pretty terrible on offense.
But there is a pretty significant difference in defense -- and assists/rebounds. That's pretty profound.
 

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