Suns 2025-2026 Season Discussion

[ProdigalSun]

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vibes good on all levels right now

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

with these big leads we're starting to see the rookies and nhd get minutes

manman is developing but honestly he isn't competing for minutes - not the way fleming and nhd are (against eachother)

first im not unimpressed with nhd - i think he's playing a different game now and his skills haven't translated - he's still in preseason form forcing shots when everyone else is playing unselfish

but it appears our rookie coach now prefers his rookie pf - could be temporary but fleming is letting the game come to him and flow through - just looks more comfortable

 

[SirStefan32]

Flemming looks the most "ready" among the rookies, but I really want Man Man to start getting some more minutes. I keep coming back to the question, "Can he be worse than Oso and Richards?" I think the answer is no.

 

[AzStevenCal]

We've looked pretty good with and without Green of late. Is it a mirage? Will it go away when opponents actually scout and prepare for us? I have no idea but it's been fun so I sure hope this is Ott and company working their magic.

 

[Superbone]

We've looked pretty good with and without Green of late. Is it a mirage? Will it go away when opponents actually scout and prepare for us? I have no idea but it's been fun so I sure hope this is Ott and company working their magic.

We are now half way to your projected win total after 10 games! (I know you have revised your expectations, Steve. But no, Steve, I am not going to let you forget it. )

 

[JCSunsfan]

We've looked pretty good with and without Green of late. Is it a mirage? Will it go away when opponents actually scout and prepare for us? I have no idea but it's been fun so I sure hope this is Ott and company working their magic.

But we were REALLY good when Green did play. I know its only one game.

I am not sure I would mess with this roster at all, except maybe to trade Richards for a future pick. But then, why? Is Richards more valuable to this team than a second round pick? The answer is probably yes.

 

[AzStevenCal]

But we were REALLY good when Green did play. I know its only one game.

I am not sure I would mess with this roster at all, except maybe to trade Richards for a future pick. But then, why? Is Richards more valuable to this team than a second round pick? The answer is probably yes.

I think my post was a little ambigious. My point was that I like this team so much, I'm not sure I'd vote in favor of breaking it up even if I were in that position. And that surprises me quite a bit.

I had no expectations regarding Green but the guy I saw that night made me feel a lot better about the whole KD in and KD out trades.

 

[Ronin]

Vinnie's View: Suns continue to show progress on win streak

Let's just call it like it is: this Phoenix Suns team has been a lot of fun to watch so far this season, and that continued on Monday.

arizonasports.com

 

[Proximo]

Flemming looks the most "ready" among the rookies, but I really want Man Man to start getting some more minutes. I keep coming back to the question, "Can he be worse than Oso and Richards?" I think the answer is no.

Did you watch him on defense last night? To say his team defense was bad is a huge understatement.

After watching that I think I have a pretty good understanding of why he is not being given playing time when the game is undecided.

 

[Ronin]

Allen makes Suns history against Pelicans

Eric Samulski reacts to Grayson Allen's historic three-point shooting performance against the Pelicans, discussing his role in the Suns' offense and impact in fantasy basketball leagues.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Ronin]

3 keys to the Phoenix Suns 3-point success

One symptom of a good team is a team that can generate great looks from three, and this Suns team is doing that.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[clyde2tw]

Did you watch him on defense last night? To say his team defense was bad is a huge understatement.

After watching that I think I have a pretty good understanding of why he is not being given playing time when the game is undecided.

Fully agree. Fleming felt lost on D whenever there is scramble and switch. ManMan is better there but too easily gets rebounds ripped off him. They are both immature compared to others in the same draft. In fact both Dunn and Oso were selections with glaring shortcomings then. Dunn improved a lot, so hope Manman and Fleming follow similar track.

 

[Phrazbit]

Did you watch him on defense last night? To say his team defense was bad is a huge understatement.

After watching that I think I have a pretty good understanding of why he is not being given playing time when the game is undecided.

It's hard to put much on defensive play at the end of a blow out. Almost all those guys are probably trying way too hard to impress and doing things that they would not do if in with the regular guys.

I feel like when the benches empty the team way behind almost always closes the margin some as those guys are probably thinking "let's not make this uglier, I will look bad", while the dudes with the big lead are just wanting in on the fun.

 

[clyde2tw]

I wanted Allen of last season's form traded asap. Now he has been playing really well on both ends, but the concern is whether he can maintain it when competition gets tough, against the better teams and in POs. Salary wise, one of Allen and Brooks might get traded, for good help at the 4, say Hachimura

 

[Proximo]

It's hard to put much on defensive play at the end of a blow out. Almost all those guys are probably trying way too hard to impress and doing things that they would not do if in with the regular guys.

I feel like when the benches empty the team way behind almost always closes the margin some as those guys are probably thinking "let's not make this uglier, I will look bad", while the dudes with the big lead are just wanting in on the fun.

It is when you can't even figure out how to do a simple switch, he was lost repeatedly.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It would now be absurd to trade Grayson Allen. He is too integral to the Suns' success. Without looking at the statistics, I have the impression that Royce O'Neal is the second-best three-point shooter on the team, and he's no slouch as a defender (some have said he was only "excellent" in relative comparison to the laziness of everyone else last year). That being the case, I don't really want to trade O'Neal either. Therefore, I would trade...nobody. There are probably no players and certainly no draft picks that I would trade. This is the group the Suns have, even if it lacks a power forward.

Maybe Richard's, but unless someone is unhappy I think I might stand pat.

You know the old saying, "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is."

 

[SirStefan32]

To trade or not to trade is a difficult question. Grayson and Royce are playing out of their minds right now and are integral to Suns' success. Trading them would hurt the team right now. Since Suns don't own their own first-round picks, there is no incentive to tank. We might as well enjoy what we have for the next few years.

On the other hand, I really don't see a path to championship or even contention in the next couple of years, so if you can turn them into three first-round picks and a young player or two, I think trading them would be a reasonable approach. I can't imagine their value is going to get higher than it is right now.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

i was promised watchable basketball - grayson and oneale make this team watchable - their 3pt resurgence is infectious - they're both all in on defense - they are a two headed monster - i really don't want to cut one of the heads off

first - i wish i had a coach that looked at me the way ott does grayson - man he loves him some grayson - and oneale... forgetaboutit

like grayson it doesn't matter if oneale starts or not - plug and play baybay - light that ish up - if grayson isn't on the court defenses can pay attention to devin.... unless oneale's out there

the deep ball makes the ball movement dangerous - defenses can't collapse on drives or trap in corners one on side - i think grayson and oneale have been averaging about 10 3s a game combined during this winning stretch - that's insane - grayson just hit 10 in one game - beyond insane

please - trade deadline isn't til february - leave the two headed monster be - ive never seen one in phx - each head has a legit chance to break the record again - i think it might be oneale - he seemed lowkey jealous - i bet he's already got it in his head

 

[Hoop Head]

To trade or not to trade is a difficult question. Grayson and Royce are playing out of their minds right now and are integral to Suns' success. Trading them would hurt the team right now. Since Suns don't own their own first-round picks, there is no incentive to tank. We might as well enjoy what we have for the next few years.

On the other hand, I really don't see a path to championship or even contention in the next couple of years, so if you can turn them into three first-round picks and a young player or two, I think trading them would be a reasonable approach. I can't imagine their value is going to get higher than it is right now.

Grayson should fetch a 1st from someone. Maybe even a conditional or protected pair. Royce should get about half of what Grayson does. He is more of a defender but not the same type of scorer. We desperately need picks. I'd like to keep Williams until Khamen is ready also and he's due for a payday this summer so clearing those salaries will be important with all the dead money we have.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

when you find a unicorn you don't sell the horn - we don't know what this team is yet

 

[SirStefan32]

Grayson should fetch a 1st from someone. Maybe even a conditional or protected pair. Royce should get about half of what Grayson does. He is more of a defender but not the same type of scorer. We desperately need picks. I'd like to keep Williams until Khamen is ready also and he's due for a payday this summer so clearing those salaries will be important with all the dead money we have.

I think that's a solid argument, but the question is whether or not two or three protected first-round picks would yield anything that good. I think contenders, or at least decent teams would want those two guys, and their draft picks are probably not that good. Salaries issue is a valid one. I think they just need to dump Richards, and they will reset the repeat offender counter. Outside of that, I don't think Ishbia gives a crap about payroll. I do agree that keeping Williams is a must. I haven't done my due diligence by looking into stats further, but the eye test tells me the Suns are a completely different team with Williams on the floor.

 

[Ronin]

The Phoenix Suns have learned the extent of Jalen Green’s absence

After missing the first eight games of the season due to a hamstring injury sustained during training camp, Jalen Green made a triumphant return to the court on Friday,

www.mundodeportivo.com

 

[Ronin]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2025/11/11/jalen-green-injury-update-suns/87221315007/

 

[Ronin]

https://www.axios.com/local/phoenix/2025/11/12/suns-bounce-back-from-rough-start-2025-26-season

 

[Hoop Head]

I think that's a solid argument, but the question is whether or not two or three protected first-round picks would yield anything that good. I think contenders, or at least decent teams would want those two guys, and their draft picks are probably not that good. Salaries issue is a valid one. I think they just need to dump Richards, and they will reset the repeat offender counter. Outside of that, I don't think Ishbia gives a crap about payroll. I do agree that keeping Williams is a must. I haven't done my due diligence by looking into stats further, but the eye test tells me the Suns are a completely different team with Williams on the floor.

Before the blowout against the Pelicans the on/off splits with Williams were huge. He propelled the Suns right up to the top of the league in ORtg and DRtg but that is a small sample size as well. It'll be interesting to follow. His injury history also gives us an advantage for a team friendly long term deal with him being a restricted free agent as well this coming offseason.

I think the way to play it with the team is make everyone available to extent. We'll listen to offers but we're happy so won't bite unless we're given a deal too good to pass on. Set the price as 2 firsts for Grayson, 1 first and 1 second for Royce, and 2 seconds for Richards. If someone offers, don't let them off the phone and do the deal but we shouldnt be shopping anyone at this point. No need to rush as we're 1/8 through the season and the first complete month hasn't finished yet. December 15th is when deals start happening due to restrictions lifted off previous signings and we need a plan if our role players keep it up.