Shaquille O'Neal?

[Weenus O'Baggins]

If he also can still rebound and slam dunk the ball when Nash passes the ball to him underneath the basket, this is enough for me.

Actually he can't rebound. Despite playing on a crappy team that misses a ton of shots, Slaq is only averaging 7.8 rpg

Look if he was healthy then I would be all over this but he is done.

 

[mojorizen7]

Slaq doesn't scare anyone.

Neither do the SUNS anymore though Chris.
I can't believe that Ron Artest is about to get moved & we're talking about SHAQ.

A Bidding War Over Artest: As the trade deadline gets closer, there are three teams in the hunt for Ron Artest – Miami, New York and Denver. The problem in getting a deal done is none of the teams are offering the right pieces for Sacramento, and all three seem to be playing chicken with each other. A deal is there if Sacramento wants it, but its not going to yield a David Lee – but it might yield a Udonis Haslem.

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[Louis]

From Yahoo

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said on his weekly radio show Tuesday night that the story caught him by surprise.

"The trade deadline's coming up so I'm sure there's talk all over the place," he said.
"In our day and age now, you make one of those phone calls or answer a phone call everybody in the world knows about it. Other than normal business, I don't know anything that's going on."

Asked if any deal was close, D'Antoni said "No, no, no."

Marion asked to be traded before the season began but has avoided talk of the subject since then. He is set to make $17 million next season, the final year of his contract, but can opt out of the deal and become a free agent.
Suns owner Robert Sarver said two weeks ago that none of the core players would be traded this season.

 

[devilalum]

The stupidest thing about this rumor is the money issue.

NO WAY Sarver hands Shaq $60 million to loaf up and down the court for 3 years unless there's some unseen financial benefit.

 

[TJ]

ESPN NEWS reported that Marion wants this trade to go through.....great if this doesnt happen it adds fuel to the fire

 

[Mainstreet]

Quote: mojorizen7

Neither do the SUNS anymore though Chris.
I can't believe that Ron Artest is about to get moved & we're talking about SHAQ.

I'm just glad the Suns may be interested in making a move for someone. There are probably a lot of options out there including Artest. However, I can't stand it when the Suns talk about standing pat. This team just does not have the defense and rebounding to make it through the playoffs. For the Suns FO to pretend otherwise is just pretending.

 

[Covert Rain]

Sarver won't blow it up because Slaq will be due $40 million dollars for the next two seasons. No ability to do so. That's why Miami wants to give him away.

But Slaq should sell a few jersey's and seats so Sarver will probably be happy anyway.

On the bright side our quest to successfully build a 1998 championship team will be complete.

Yes he will because he will trade away anything not nailed down to the kitchen sink. He would probably keep Amare and Shaq and everybody else on this team would be trade fodder to lower the salary for the foreseeable future.

Then people should say, Marion only averages 15 and 9 against San Antonio.

Again hardly disappearing. Marion disappearing in the playoffs is a myth that needs to die.

Agreed. There are other people on this team you could make a case for disappearing. Not being able to run in the playoffs and Marion disappearing are 2 of the biggest Suns myths out there.

I'd like this trade. First of all it puts Amare at his natural position, gives us an interior post up defender, and gets rid of Marion.

I don't think Shaq is going to embarass himself and hang on if its over, I see him trying to get a ring and then retiring.

Shaq still scares the crap out of most players in the league and he is a bully and refs give him calls. So what he cant run, we aren't a running team anymore anyway. 90% of what we do is in the half court now.

The only thing good about his trade is it move Amare back to his normal position. However, it also clogs the lane for Amare with a guy who can't move fast enough to get out of Amare's way.

Shaq scares nobody now.

ESPN NEWS reported that Marion wants this trade to go through.....great if this doesnt happen it adds fuel to the fire

It doesn't mean we should trade him. Marion will play here and play well no matter what he wants. Let's get into the Artest sweep stakes if we are going to trade Marion. That's a trade that makes sense to me.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

The stupidest thing about this rumor is the money issue.

NO WAY Sarver hands Shaq $60 million to loaf up and down the court for 3 years unless there's some unseen financial benefit.

Top 5 reasons Sarver would trade for Slaq:

#5. Sarver wants a life size version of his foam finger.
#4. Marion jersey's are in a sales slump from 5 sold to 4.
#3. The spike in between quarter food sales will be enormous
#2. Sarver watched Kazaam! and wants to rub Slaq's belly and get a wish
#1. Sarver secretly hopes to see Shaq's "Big Aristotle".

 

[mojorizen7]

Maybe its a 3-way(no...not like that.) between PHX,MIA,& SAC.
Miami gets Marion,SAC town gets the old diesel, & Artest comes to the SUNS.
If only......

 

[mojorizen7]

#5. Sarver wants a life size version of his foam finger.

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[CaptainInsano]

The only way I would even THINK about doing this is if it was:

Shaq + Haslem + heat 1st round pick for Marion + Diaw + Banks + ATL pick

That I still don't even know about, shaqs contract is just so freaking bad.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

If Haslem or the Heat's first rounder make it in the trade in some manner then I will not complain at all

 

[mojorizen7]

The only way I would even THINK about doing this is if it was:

Shaq + Haslem + heat 1st round pick for Marion + Diaw + Banks + ATL pick

That I still don't even know about, shaqs contract is just so freaking bad.

I'd call that one a no-brainer.

 

[HooverDam]

Yes. It does my friend. And if you believe that me & Greg Anthony are the only two people that believe that then i'm sorry.

I've got a crazy idea for you, look up the stats, watch the games, turn off the Greg Anthony. The Suns have done fine w/ a running pace in the playoffs, they are more often than not scoring over 100. Their problem has been injuries/suspensions/not having enough talent. When they were bumped by the Mavs, I'm sure we all believed they could've beaten Dallas (and then won the title) had they had Amare. Last year, the series with San Antonio could've gone either way and the suspensions certainly made a difference. I just don't understand how you can whine so much when any 7 game series with any team, the Suns have a reasonable chance of winning.

In modern sports, with free agency and parody, there just aren't teams that are guaranteed bets that are going to run over everyone. Just ask the folks in New England.

(who is going to leave anyway)

He is? It seems to me there's a great chance he (or his agent) will realize he's not worth 17.5 million, and does best in D'Antoni's system, and he'll stay.

Shaq is definately slow & out of shape but he's still arguably the strongest man in the league. .

Dwight Howard

Neither do the SUNS anymore though Chris.
I can't believe that Ron Artest is about to get moved & we're talking about SHAQ.

Let me see if I can follow your logic here (I never can, but I'll give it the ole college try). "The Suns don't scare anyone anymore, so they need to bring in a fat, oft injured, old, low rebounding, poor shooting center to replace a versatile player who can play multiple positions on both ends of the floor, fits their system perfectly and doesn't need plays run for him to score." Brilliant analysis.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I'd call that one a no-brainer.

Absolutely....

 

[ozzfloyd]

In modern sports, with free agency and parody, there just aren't teams that are guaranteed bets that are going to run over everyone. Just ask the folks in New England.

This trade rumor is just that. A Parody.

 

[Hat]

Now it's on DrudgeReport, oh great...http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UKHP6G0&show_article=1

 

[Hat]

What's funny is both DA and Riley said the deal isn't close to happening or not true, and Sarver would have to pay huge expenses, yet the reporters still spin like it's going to happen.

 

[TJ]

What's funny is both DA and Riley said the deal isn't close to happening or not true, and Sarver would have to pay huge expenses, yet the reporters still spin like it's going to happen.

I hope it was just a slow news day in Miami today

 

[mojorizen7]

to replace a versatile player who can play multiple positions on both ends of the floor,

DIAW?! Are you stoned? Come on.

poor shooting center

From the line yes. From the field not hardly.

"The Suns don't scare anyone anymore,

Do you believe they still strike fear into opponents like they did 2-3 yrs ago?

Originally Posted by mojorizen7
Shaq is definately slow & out of shape but he's still arguably the strongest man in the league. .
Dwight Howard

Arguably.

The Suns have done fine w/ a running pace in the playoffs, they are more often than not scoring over 100.

Yeah they've done fine. Just fine.
BTW, i haven't heard G.Anthony speak in years. However, i watch many playoff games. Including those that involve other teams that are still playing for something after the SUNS get sent home year after year.
We''re "right there." We're exactly where we've been & even weaker up front.
I'm not in the mood to argue our difference of opinion on this subject of playoff basketball.
We can do that when the time comes.

 

[TheHopToad]

The only thing that makes me like this deal is the fact that since Michael Jordan won his last title ten years ago, every subsequent NBA Finals has featured either Shaq or Tim Duncan in it, and their teams are 8-1 in the Finals during that stretch.

That having been said, I would rather trade Marion and Banks for Duncan. That not being possible, and the fact that the Spurs aren't able to repeat after their titles, it seems quite obvious that this is a "Shaq year".

 

[Covert Rain]

Do you believe they still strike fear into opponents like they did 2-3 yrs ago?

And adding Shaq all of the sudden, subtracting Marion (and our running game) all of the sudden ups the fear factor of the Suns?!?!?!!?

Arguably.

Not arguably. Dwight Howard is the strongest beast in the NBA bar none.

 

[mojorizen7]

Yeah i think that the lane would become less inviting with Shaq & Stat in the paint.
As opposed to Stat & Marion/Diaw. Has Marion ever given a hard foul? Diaw? Stat?

 

[TJ]

Shaqs flying in for a physical tomorrow

 

[HooverDam]

DIAW?! Are you stoned? Come on.

Im talking about Marion, the key piece the Suns would be moving in this trade, remember? He's still a near All Star level player.

Do you believe they still strike fear into opponents like they did 2-3 yrs ago?
.

Thats neither here nor there. We're talking about your logic here. You are saying the Suns don't scare anyone, so they should bring in a big guy who scares no one. Do you see the logical fallacy here?

Not arguably. Dwight Howard is the strongest beast in the NBA bar none.

Thank you