Question about Jeff Blake

[40yearfan]

Jeff Blake is 32 years old. He could have 5 to 7 playing years left in him. Why have I seen so many threads saying he's an interim QB and will only be here for the next year or two until the Cards "Franchise QB" is groomed and ready to take his place. Suppose he has a good to great year this season, will we still consider him to be an "interim" QB?
<p>I look at the Superbowl champs and see that their QB, Brad Johnson is 35 and the runner-up Superbowl participants and see that their QB, Rich Gannon is 37. I don't hear any of their fans clamoring for a QB change. <p>What I'm trying to say is that maybe the Cards have their "franchise QB" already and he's going to be the starter for the next 5 to 7 years. He's certainly motivated enough and he's used to not having a great WR corps (the only area of the offense that I think we might be weak at).<p>Now I know that some of you will say that he is not good enough to be a full time starter and you want him replaced because you think there are a lot of other QB's that are better. That could very well be and he might fall flat on his face this coming season, but I think we owe it to him and the rest of his team mates to consider him the starter until he loses the job due to failing abilities. <p>Please note that this is my opinion and is not meant to start a QB argument. I'm just thinking out loud and had some time on my hands on a Sunday evening. Sure beats the hell out of watching reruns on TV

 

[Sack Daddy]

People used to say the same thing about Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson. Whatever happened to those guys? It's a good thing the press is always right!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Compare what Blake said to what i just heard Chris Spielman say on his radio show today.He was asked about helping out younger players during mini-camp and the regular season.He says he knew that guys like Stephen Boyd,JOhn Holacek,and Walli Ranier were going to be good players.He went on to say that he never felt threatened that one of these guys was going take his job away and that he thought it was his obligation to the TEAM that in case something happened to him that his replacement was the best prepared and most ready to step in and help the team win games on the field.He wasn't worried that by helping out a youngster that they would take his job.That's the difference between a good teammate and a Jeff Blake.

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Cbus cardsfan
Compare what Blake said to what i just heard Chris Spielman say on his radio show today.He was asked about helping out younger players during mini-camp and the regular season.He says he knew that guys like Stephen Boyd,JOhn Holacek,and Walli Ranier were going to be good players.He went on to say that he never felt threatened that one of these guys was going take his job away and that he thought it was his obligation to the TEAM that in case something happened to him that his replacement was the best prepared and most ready to step in and help the team win games on the field.He wasn't worried that by helping out a youngster that they would take his job.That's the difference between a good teammate and a Jeff Blake.

Oh goodness here we go again. The guys job is to win football games not mentor anyone thats what the freaking coaches are for!

He also stated if a youngster asks him a question or wants advice ''HE WILL GIVE IT"

40YearFan

I think you are right it is realistic that Blake could be our "franchise QB" for the next 5 to 7 years definately not out of the realm of possability!

 

[Sack Daddy]

Originally posted by Cbus cardsfan
Compare what Blake said to what i just heard Chris Spielman say on his radio show today.He was asked about helping out younger players during mini-camp and the regular season.He says he knew that guys like Stephen Boyd,JOhn Holacek,and Walli Ranier were going to be good players.He went on to say that he never felt threatened that one of these guys was going take his job away and that he thought it was his obligation to the TEAM that in case something happened to him that his replacement was the best prepared and most ready to step in and help the team win games on the field.He wasn't worried that by helping out a youngster that they would take his job.That's the difference between a good teammate and a Jeff Blake.

If your name is John Elway or Brett Favre, I would agree with you. Those guys had/have the luxury of job security, as did Spielman. Jeff Blake is not in their shoes. I definitely see where Blake is coming from.

 

[AZCB34]

I think the reason everyone is talking about Blake being a bridge QB is because, at this moment, that is what he is for the Cards. If he finds success here, like I think he can, then I would agree that you are right and he can be a QB for 5 years or more. Until that success is had, we must view him for what he is...a bridge QB.

Cbus, your hatred of Blake is well known, but your problem seems to be one of his leadership abilities and not his talents. If he takes this team to a 10-6 record and playoffs, will you still hate him because he isn't a leader or a cancer as you put it?

Shane is right. In the big picture, it is the coaches job to get young players ready and not the incumbent starters. Is it nice to have a vet who will take a young player under his wing? Sure, but we shouldn;t expect it. What we should expect from Blake is to not make the silly mistakes our previous QB made. What we should expect from Blake is his continuing to throw fewer INTs than TDs each year.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by AZCB34
I think the reason everyone is talking about Blake being a bridge QB is because, at this moment, that is what he is for the Cards. If he finds success here, like I think he can, then I would agree that you are right and he can be a QB for 5 years or more. Until that success is had, we must view him for what he is...a bridge QB.

Cbus, your hatred of Blake is well known, but your problem seems to be one of his leadership abilities and not his talents. If he takes this team to a 10-6 record and playoffs, will you still hate him because he isn't a leader or a cancer as you put it?

Shane is right. In the big picture, it is the coaches job to get young players ready and not the incumbent starters. Is it nice to have a vet who will take a young player under his wing? Sure, but we shouldn;t expect it. What we should expect from Blake is to not make the silly mistakes our previous QB made. What we should expect from Blake is his continuing to throw fewer INTs than TDs each year.

Great post Cubbie.

I think it is absurd to "mentor" a guy that could be taking your job very shortly.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I would love for the Cards to be 10-6.Part of being a veteran and a good teammate is helping the young guys get ready.That's just part of the game.Most teammates will put the good of the team ahead of themselves.Comparing our jobs to the NFL is apples and oranges(or rhubarb).That's one of the reasons Blake's leadership has been questioned.There is hope that he could change,although i doubt he will,because i read an article that talked about Chris Chandler helping out Rex Grossman and Chandler is another QB who has been reluctant to help out the younger player.It was reported that he wouldn't give Steve Mcnair the time of day when he was with the Oilers/Titans.It's not only Blake,even though i do dislike him,it can be any player and i'd feel the same way.Emmitt Smith wasn't too helpful with Hambrick last year in Dallas but RB is much easier to play than QB and Hambrick pretty much acted like an ass.

 

[Sack Daddy]

With Blake learning a new offense, new terminology and new teammates, how is he supposed to groom McCown?

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Cbus cardsfan
I would love for the Cards to be 10-6.Part of being a veteran and a good teammate is helping the young guys get ready.That's just part of the game.Most teammates will put the good of the team ahead of themselves.Comparing our jobs to the NFL is apples and oranges(or rhubarb).That's one of the reasons Blake's leadership has been questioned.There is hope that he could change,although i doubt he will,because i read an article that talked about Chris Chandler helping out Rex Grossman and Chandler is another QB who has been reluctant to help out the younger player.It was reported that he wouldn't give Steve Mcnair the time of day when he was with the Oilers/Titans.It's not only Blake,even though i do dislike him,it can be any player and i'd feel the same way.Emmitt Smith wasn't too helpful with Hambrick last year in Dallas but RB is much easier to play than QB and Hambrick pretty much acted like an ass.

Actually Emmitt was just as much an ass in that whole fiasco in dallas. people say the guy doesnt cry when in fcat he does!

Blake stated that he would help the younger players if hes asked he never said he wouldnt where are you getting this from?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Cbus cardsfan
I would love for the Cards to be 10-6.Part of being a veteran and a good teammate is helping the young guys get ready.That's just part of the game.Most teammates will put the good of the team ahead of themselves.Comparing our jobs to the NFL is apples and oranges(or rhubarb).That's one of the reasons Blake's leadership has been questioned.There is hope that he could change,although i doubt he will,because i read an article that talked about Chris Chandler helping out Rex Grossman and Chandler is another QB who has been reluctant to help out the younger player.It was reported that he wouldn't give Steve Mcnair the time of day when he was with the Oilers/Titans.It's not only Blake,even though i do dislike him,it can be any player and i'd feel the same way.Emmitt Smith wasn't too helpful with Hambrick last year in Dallas but RB is much easier to play than QB and Hambrick pretty much acted like an ass.

The Hambrick brothers (Troy and Darren) are well documented asses. Troy was kicked off the Univ. of South Carolina squad by Lou Holtz because of "conduct detrimental to the team" even though SC didn't have an established runner behind him.

Darren was released by the Panthers because of check fraud....

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Originally posted by Shane H
Actually Emmitt was just as much an ass in that whole fiasco in dallas. people say the guy doesnt cry when in fcat he does!

Blake stated that he would help the younger players if hes asked he never said he wouldnt where are you getting this from?

It's on another thread titled what Jeff Blake said.I actually meant to post under that thread but messd up.

 

[Sandan]

I'll leave the details for the "official" reporter.

But I listen to Jeff Blake talk yesterday. He sounded sincere, intelligent and confident.

I liked him, I never met Jake so I can't compare, but Jeff Blake I liked.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by Cbus cardsfan
I would love for the Cards to be 10-6.Part of being a veteran and a good teammate is helping the young guys get ready.That's just part of the game.Most teammates will put the good of the team ahead of themselves.Comparing our jobs to the NFL is apples and oranges(or rhubarb).That's one of the reasons Blake's leadership has been questioned.There is hope that he could change,although i doubt he will,because i read an article that talked about Chris Chandler helping out Rex Grossman and Chandler is another QB who has been reluctant to help out the younger player.It was reported that he wouldn't give Steve Mcnair the time of day when he was with the Oilers/Titans.It's not only Blake,even though i do dislike him,it can be any player and i'd feel the same way.Emmitt Smith wasn't too helpful with Hambrick last year in Dallas but RB is much easier to play than QB and Hambrick pretty much acted like an ass.

His job description is not to help young QBs get ready. His job description is to get the young WRs ready to catch his passes. Nowhere does it say he MUST help out McCown. It would be gravy if he does, but if Geep Chryst is a good QB coach, then Blake needn't worry about McCown's development.

It seems like we simply expect to much...of all players. They are supposed to be great players and good people and great teammates and not greedy. They are supposed to help the young guys develop, and agree with everything the fans say.

IMO, Blake has one job and one job only. Be a better QB than we had. That will translate to better play from the entire team because the O will be putting points on the board and the D won't be on the field as much thus they will be fresher. In the end, when his career is done, he will be viewed but what he did on the field, not if he has helpful to Josh McCown.

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by AZCB34
His job description is not to help young QBs get ready. His job description is to get the young WRs ready to catch his passes. Nowhere does it say he MUST help out McCown. It would be gravy if he does, but if Geep Chryst is a good QB coach, then Blake needn't worry about McCown's development.

It seems like we simply expect to much...of all players. They are supposed to be great players and good people and great teammates and not greedy. They are supposed to help the young guys develop, and agree with everything the fans say.

IMO, Blake has one job and one job only. Be a better QB than we had. That will translate to better play from the entire team because the O will be putting points on the board and the D won't be on the field as much thus they will be fresher. In the end, when his career is done, he will be viewed but what he did on the field, not if he has helpful to Josh McCown.

Nice post! Very eloquently put!