OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[BritCard]

Then what the hell happened to our line since last season?

Was Klayton Adams that good?

Did a healthy James Conner make the line look better than it was?

Same personnel but we are much worse.

Teams rush vs a static QB much different to a mobile one. Line is still adjusting to a very different QB. Also lost Tip.

 

[Stout]

Then what the hell happened to our line since last season?

Was Klayton Adams that good?

Did a healthy James Conner make the line look better than it was?

Same personnel but we are much worse.

Yes and yes. Also, counting on Adams and an unhealthy Hernandez on one side of Fro and a low-end G in Brown on the other side, was suicidal.

 

[Stout]

Don’t understand how some people haven’t figured this out yet.


Klayton Adams’ departure + Kyler’s athleticism(which forced DLinemen play contain) covered up the the OL’s deficiencies.

I would add JC's tough running, but yes. This is a positive area to Kyler's game.

 

[DVontel]

I would add JC's tough running, but yes. This is a positive area to Kyler's game.

That just speaks more so to JC’s vision & ability. I don’t think he(or any RB) makes their OL look better than they really are.

 

[DVontel]

Also speaks to how great PJJ is. I was worried his blocking possibly falling off with a statue as opposed to a running threat at QB, but nope, still playing really good ball.

 

[Adrian]

Agent's Take: What does the future hold for Kyler Murray and can the Cardinals afford to move on from the QB?

Murray's current contract could hinder the Cardinals from dealing the former first-round pick, but are there other options?

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[TK421]

NFL Week 11 latest buzz, questions, news and fantasy tips

Where will Kyler Murray be playing next season? What's next for the Giants? Which 2026 free agents are worth watching? We have the latest.

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The Rams?

Hadn't even thought of them

If I were the Rams I'd rather take my chances with Stetson Bennett than spend that much on Murray.

 

[Adrian]

NFL insider believes one household name in Arizona will be gone in 2026

Many executives across the league believe that 2025 will be Kyler Murray’s final year with the Arizona Cardinals, as the seventh-year quarterback has struggled

raisingzona.com

 

[Chopper0080]

Also speaks to how great PJJ is. I was worried his blocking possibly falling off with a statue as opposed to a running threat at QB, but nope, still playing really good ball.

There is probably an argument that he is a top 10 LT in the league right now. I have also been impressed how he has held up.

 

[602 Native]

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[daves]

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Well if Ben and his 462 followers says so!

Apparently he thinks other teams can't evaluate Murray based on his 7 years of film, but instead will decide his value based on whether the Cardinals, against all credibility, announce that he'll start again when healthy.

 

[Adrian]

Cardinals cutting Kyler Murray idea has a $42.5 million contract problem | Sporting News

Arizona has a tough choice on its hands.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[602 Native]

We Az Cards fans are total chumps

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[602 Native]

Some of you fall for this crap year in and year out. Others here have been sounding the alarm bells and saying careful what you wish for.

Now JG and MO have once again shot the bed and now will continue to prove they have no idea what they are doing

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Some of you fall for this crap year in and year out. Others here have been sounding the alarm bells and saying careful what you wish for.

Now JG and MO have once again shot the bed and now will continue to prove they have no idea what they are doing

KM has 1 winning season in 7 years bro. He isn't the guy, and never will be. Time to rip the band aid off.

 

[602 Native]

KM has 1 winning season in 7 years bro. He isn't the guy, and never will be. Time to rip the band aid off.

This is the same type of rhetoric when MO couldn’t get Allen back.

No one is saying keep K1 the problem is they haven’t done anything to move the guy and now we’re gonna cut him and get nothing. Well done MO

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

is kyler still at the facility daily rehabbing the toe and supporting his team

or is he off somewhere else rehabbing the ego and finding his next team

 

[kerouac9]

This is the same type of rhetoric when MO couldn’t get Allen back.

No one is saying keep K1 the problem is they haven’t done anything to move the guy and now we’re gonna cut him and get nothing. Well done MO

Eh. I think we came into this season feeling good that Kyler could regain where he was. As you and others have relentlessly said, Kyler isn’t the only problem and maybe isn’t even the MAIN problem with the Arizona Cardinals.

But he is the most visible problem. MOJG did everything they could to Kyler-proof the roster and that’s either impossible or they’re not good enough.

Unfortunately, Kyler was so bad before his injury that he’d already cratered his trade value to anyone who realistically assessed the situation. Then Brissett came in and showed how little Kyler was contributing to the functioning of the offense and also may be dragging it down. So what can they do?

JG said Kyler was our starter when healthy and everyone got all mad at him.

 

[kerouac9]

is kyler still at the facility daily rehabbing the toe and supporting his team

or is he off somewhere else rehabbing the ego and finding his next team

The cameras definitely didn’t find him on the sidelines in Seattle.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

The cameras definitely didn’t find him on the sidelines in Seattle.

The new COD just dropped today, I think. Home boy had to practice!

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

The cameras definitely didn’t find him on the sidelines in Seattle.

i didn't see the step stool or the little pet stairs

 

[DVontel]

The cameras definitely didn’t find him on the sidelines in Seattle.

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[TK421]

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Yeah I couldn't believe JG acknowledged he'd prefer Brissett to remain the starter even if Murray were healthy enough to play. It's like c'mon man, some things aren't supposed to be said aloud, especially to the media. That boneheaded comment might have literally cost this team millions of dollars and a potentially higher draft pick compensation.

 

[daves]

Yeah I couldn't believe JG acknowledged he'd prefer Brissett to remain the starter even if Murray were healthy enough to play. It's like c'mon man, some things aren't supposed to be said aloud, especially to the media. That boneheaded comment might have literally cost this team millions of dollars and a potentially higher draft pick compensation.

The whole world, including every GM, could see Murray's deficiencies laid bare as soon as Brissett took over. The only thing Gannon accomplished by (briefly) proclaiming Murray as the starter was to make himself look like a fool.