OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[urs]

Is there a debate anymore? I think we have a big enough sample size.

Agreed. Let's go with the guy who wins games over the other guy who doesn't

 

[TRW]

I'm not saying K1 should be expected to take all the shots JB did today. No way!

I don't think any QB makes it more than 8 games getting hit the way Brissett was today.

I'm just saying it's pretty clear K1 is very adverse to getting hit, and I just don't see how that could possibly play well in the locker room.

Sliding to avoid taking a big shot? Fine. But the falling down in the pocket to avoid a hit is going to start getting questioned. You can believe that.

Yep. Agree.

 

[unseenaz]

Agreed. Let's go with the guy who wins games over the other guy who doesn't

Kyler has 1 winning season.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

The last time KM put up JB's #'s in consecutive games goes all the way back to 2021.

 

[urs]

The last time KM put up JB's #'s in consecutive games goes all the way back to 2021.

Last time JB won a game go back to 2021 too? BUT NUMBERS!!!!111!!!11!

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Last time JB won a game go back to 2021 too? BUT NUMBERS!!!!111!!!11!

If you think KM gives this team a better chance to win with his pathetic offense...I don't know what to tell you.

 

[urs]

If you think KM gives this team a better chance to win with his pathetic offense...I don't know what to tell you.

Ummm they have literally WON with Kyler this year. That's the reason I think that. Hope that helps

 

[unseenaz]

Last time JB won a game go back to 2021 too? BUT NUMBERS!!!!111!!!11!

Exactly. A career backup who can’t win games is outperforming Kyler. Have you reserved your screen name on Jets forums yet?

 

[urs]

Exactly. A career backup who can’t win games is outperforming Kyler. Have you reserved your screen name on Jets forums yet?

"Outperformed"...wins matter, not yards. Keep up. Kyler would be an idiot to sign with the Jets.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Ummm they have literally WON with Kyler this year. That's the reason I think that. Hope that helps

And you're assuming KM would've won these last 2 games. Lmao ok bud. I want whatever you're smoking.

 

[urs]

And you're assuming KM would've won these last 2 games. Lmao ok bud. I want whatever you're smoking.

With the Cards I assume nothing. Like I assumed we'd beat Tennessee when Kyler led us to 28 points before Demercado went Chad Powers, and I assumed we'd beat the Niners until Zay Jones forgot how to catch a ball right in his hands. Assuming anything with the Cards leads to pain

 

[Crimson Warrior]

With the Cards I assume nothing. Like I assumed we'd beat Tennessee when Kyler led us to 28 points before Demercado went Chad Powers, and I assumed we'd beat the Niners until Zay Jones forgot how to catch a ball right in his hands. Assuming anything with the Cards leads to pain

Fair.

Let's keep it fair gentlemen.

 

[unseenaz]

With the Cards I assume nothing. Like I assumed we'd beat Tennessee when Kyler led us to 28 points before Demercado went Chad Powers, and I assumed we'd beat the Niners until Zay Jones forgot how to catch a ball right in his hands. Assuming anything with the Cards leads to pain

Maybe Kyler shouldn’t be floating on the razors edge against bad teams, where 1 play makes the difference. Makes it too easy to cherry pick something to absolve him of the blame.

 

[DaHilg]

And yet, the ball moves forward with Jacoby

We scored 23 pts today..23. Jacoby threw the ball 36 times this week and 44 times last week (go look at Kyler’s attempts this season per a game). The only time this offense even looked half way decent before JB are in the glimpse of Speicial Petz calling for a pass first offense. The same game plan isn’t being called bro - but we are getting the same end results. 23–27 points and Losses.

Again - I want to be moved on from Kyler too but let’s not just bury the guy w false narratives.

 

[DaHilg]

Last time JB won a game go back to 2021 too? BUT NUMBERS!!!!111!!!11!

Dammmmmn someone just got bodybagged!

 

[PDXChris]

The offense was still way more consistent with Jacoby than it has been with Kyler, and this was the best defense we've faced all year.

People taking this as a victory for Kyler are going to be Jets fans next season. Kyler will not be the starter in Arizona next year. If Kyler isnt starting for the Jets or Steelers he will be a backup.

Kyler will be the starter after the bye, but hes not going to show enough to keep his job.

Green Bays defense on the road is garbage. They showed the stats during the game.

 

[unseenaz]

Dammmmmn someone just got bodybagged!

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[jf-08]

$250M

 

[PDXChris]

Aren't we like 1-17 without Kyler now? He's definitely the problem

1-9 in the JG seasons without Kyler
.100 winning percentage

13-17 with Kyler
.433 winning percentage

All time
4-15 without
.221 winning percentage

38-48-1 with.
.442 winning percentage

 

[slanidrac16]

1-9 in the JG seasons without Kyler
.100 winning percentage

13-17 with Kyler
.433 winning percentage

All time
4-15 without
.221 winning percentage

38-48-1 with.
.442 winning percentage

So you’re saying they both suck.

 

[PDXChris]

So you’re saying they both suck.

One just sucks less. Time to move on, that is evident.

 

[kerouac9]

1-9 in the JG seasons without Kyler
.100 winning percentage

13-17 with Kyler
.433 winning percentage

All time
4-15 without
.221 winning percentage

38-48-1 with.
.442 winning percentage

Kliff Kingsbury was better than Jonathan Gannon. What a freaking disaster this team is.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Anyone pretending that the colts/packers are equal to the titans/second string niners/panthers/saints is in lala land. The only "good" opponent Kyler has faced this season is the seahawks. Jacoby who is not our QB of the future and a decent second string quarterback is way out performing Kyler right now- not even a question.

But it doesn't matter much anymore- short or a miracle we are in a full blown bad QB situation and the higher draft pick won't hurt.

 

[Mr X]

No way Kyler handles that pass rush today. Atleast 3 sit down sacks.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

No eat Kyler handles that pass rush today. Atleast 3 sit down sacks.

They're called fetal sacks. KM patented them.