OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Weenus O'Baggins]

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I can get on board with "would have been better than Purdy" but multiple SBs is a lot

 

[oaken1]

Multiple fans on this board sing the praises of those 3 QBs and say they are better than K1.Don’t need to name anyone. They know who they are.

None of them had success with the terrible teams they were drafted by hence their trades. Fast forward to last year and all of a sudden those castoff QBs are amazing when you actually put top tier talent around them minus Geno.

so its you.
You are the one saying Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield are amazing.
Glad thats on the record now. Because I have never seen anybody else say it.

 

[oaken1]

The morale of the Murray faithful is always sky high at the start of the season.

As long as his knee is right, I'm 1000% confident that my boy is going to unleash hell on NFL defenses this season! You'll see BGT!

before game one we have just as much right to dream of super bowls and MVPs as anybody else.

 

[602 Native]

You all need to embrace the middle. Murray is mid, which is great for us. He makes mid money and we can win like 11-12 games with him

We win 11 or 12 games and no one on this board will be saying he’s mid.

 

[602 Native]

so its you.
You are the one saying Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield are amazing.
Glad thats on the record now. Because I have never seen anybody else say it.

Don’t search this thread

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

We win 11 or 12 games and no one on this board will be saying he’s mid.

Mid is QB 10-20. I am fine with Kyler being like QB 13 in the league.

 

[Shane]

Mid is QB 10-20. I am fine with Kyler being like QB 13 in the league.

Not gonna win you any fantasy leagues

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Not gonna win you any fantasy leagues

He's better in fantasy

 

[kerouac9]

We win 11 or 12 games and no one on this board will be saying he’s mid.

I remember some people saying that Sam Darnold and Justin Herbert were mid. Weird.

 

[unseenaz]

After 8 up and down years of divisive Murray, we're going to get even more polarizing Raiola and the debate page for him will be over 1,000 pages long.

 

[oaken1]

Don’t search this thread

Never crossed my mind

 

[oaken1]

After 8 up and down years of divisive Murray, we're going to get even more polarizing Raiola and the debate page for him will be over 1,000 pages long.

Lol...pending how 25 goes this thread may hit a thousand pages by Christmas

 

[PDXChris]

After 8 up and down years of divisive Murray, we're going to get even more polarizing Raiola and the debate page for him will be over 1,000 pages long.

6 years

 

[daves]

so its you.
You are the one saying Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield are amazing.
Glad thats on the record now. Because I have never seen anybody else say it.

The Athletic's "panel of 50 voters [comprised of] six general managers, six assistant GMs, six former GMs, five other executives, eight head coaches and 19 other coaches, including 15 coordinators" ranked Mayfield several spots ahead of Murray, in Tier 2 vs. Tier 3.

Smith and Darnold are a few spots behind Murray, in the same tier.

 

[oaken1]

The Athletic's "panel of 50 voters [comprising] six general managers, six assistant GMs, six former GMs, five other executives, eight head coaches and 19 other coaches, including 15 coordinators" ranked Mayfield several spots ahead of Murray, in Tier 2 vs. Tier 3.

Smith and Darnold are a few spots behind Murray, in the same tier.

Any of those panel members post on asfn?

 

[kerouac9]

6 years

Posted from the future

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Already prepping the excuses I see.

I'm actually genuinely concerned that he's not 100% confident in it. That he's not willing to try to deke guys like he did before the injury.

I guess we'll know pretty soon.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

before game one we have just as much right to dream of super bowls and MVPs as anybody else.

The 1st Rams game from last year was not a dream oaken1. His kit from that game is in the NFL HOF.

He was the best QB on the planet that week. Nothing anybody types in this thread will change that fact.

You can say he's not capable of being a top-five QB, but I won't believe you.

 

[oaken1]

The 1st Rams game from last year was not a dream oaken1. His kit from that game is in the NFL HOF.

He was the best QB on the planet that week. Nothing anybody types in this thread will change that fact.

You can say he's not capable of being a top-five QB, but I won't believe you.

Capable? For a game certainly.

But for a season? I just don't see it.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

I am sitting here and I got a brain worm. Not a Kennedy brain worm but a stat idea I can't get rid of.

In my head, its the TD to INT percentage for every Cardinals starter for the last 100 years. Where does Murray rank? My bias says like 5. Hopefully AI can figure this out

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

I am sitting here and I got a brain worm. Not a Kennedy brain worm but a stat idea I can't get rid of.

In my head, its the TD to INT percentage for every Cardinals starter for the last 100 years. Where does Murray rank? My bias says like 5. Hopefully AI can figure this out

LMAO 1500 pass attempts he is #1 in franchise history by a bit. The only guy remotely close is Palmer, who is ten percent worse. We all think he sucks and is a turnover machine and he is literally the best ever for the Cardinals

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The 1st Rams game from last year was not a dream oaken1. His kit from that game is in the NFL HOF.

He was the best QB on the planet that week. Nothing anybody types in this thread will change that fact.

You can say he's not capable of being a top-five QB, but I won't believe you.

He was amazing in high school, too.

 

[602 Native]

LMAO 1500 pass attempts he is #1 in franchise history by a bit. The only guy remotely close is Palmer, who is ten percent worse. We all think he sucks and is a turnover machine and he is literally the best ever for the Cardinals

Who thinks K1 is a TO machine?

It’s never been his MO. Turnovers at the wrong time yes. A machine?

Numbers don’t bare that out.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Who thinks K1 is a TO machine?

It’s never been his MO. Turnovers at the wrong time yes. A machine?

Numbers don’t bare that out.

Half the board...

We are way into this

 

[Shane]

Half the board...

We are way into this

I can’t recall anyone calling him that? Plenty of people saying he chokes. And disappears in the biggest moments. But a TO machine?