OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Cheesebeef]

Don’t worry guys… still plenty of wins coming later in the schedule?

 

[DVontel]

Does it matter? It's addition by subtraction. I'd give a 4th to move on.

Yea it matters my guy lol wtf kind of question is this?

 

[BritCard]

Don’t worry guys… still plenty of wins coming later in the schedule?

I said earlier we lose out, but Kyler plays better with fudge all to play for

 

[blindseyed]

If we traded KM would it have to be contingent on if they take his salary? I'm asking be ause I seriously don't know how his contract is or how trades actually work on this kind of situation

 

[krazy2k]

Does it matter? It's addition by subtraction. I'd give a 4th to move on.

Exactly. Why not bring back 53 year old Kurt Warner to mentor a youngster. KM hit his ceiling a long time ago and is not going to be breaking through that glass.

 

[BritCard]

If we traded KM would it have to be contingent on if they take his salary? I'm asking be ause I seriously don't know how his contract is or how trades actually work on this kind of situation

$28m dead money if traded. Which is a lot better than $58m.

 

[AZ Native]

$28m dead money if traded. Which is a lot better than $58m.

There has to be someone out there who thinks they can "fix" him.

 

[BritCard]

Yea it matters my guy lol wtf kind of question is this?

Does it matter if its a 4th or 2nd? Or a 4th or 6th?

You take WTF you can get at this point and most of the fan base will breath a sigh of relief.

 

[DVontel]

Does it matter if its a 4th or 2nd? Or a 4th or 6th?

You take WTF you can get at this point and most of the fan base will breath a sigh of relief.

Yes it matters BritCard WE SHOULD want the better draft pick.

You’re not even thinking straight with this nonsense.

 

[BritCard]

There has to be someone out there who thinks they can "fix" him.

Lots of QB needy teams. Giants Jets, Brown's, Raiders at least, and not a good QB class.

 

[blindseyed]

Lots of QB needy teams. Bills, Jets, Brown's, Raiders at least, and not a good QB class.

Bills???

 

[TRW]

Lots of QB needy teams. Bills, Jets, Brown's, Raiders at least, and not a good QB class.

Bills?

 

[BritCard]

Yes it matters BritCard WE SHOULD want the better draft pick.

You’re not even thinking straight with this nonsense.

I want a better draft pick. Let's get two firsts.

In reality you take the best on offer, rub your hands together and get off the Kyler Murray roller coaster. If that's a 5th you snatch it. If it's a 2nd then great.

My point being the priority is to move on, and you don't walk away from anything.

 

[BritCard]

Bills???

Giants sorry. Watching Bills on TV.

 

[blindseyed]

Giants sorry. Watching Bills on TV.

Lol so was I that's why I was like "wait" haha

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Meh… if you have something ailing you that limits your full ability to function like normal you should be on the injury report.

Do you honestly believe that teams don’t play games with injury report?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The contract is fine at this point. I think you could get a second.

Do that in a heartbeat

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Can mods close this thread? Debate officially over.

 

[AZCB34]

There has to be someone out there who thinks they can "fix" him.

BC Lions

 

[The6]

BC Lions

Yep. CFL

 

[slanidrac16]

They can't afford it. If the eat the dead cap they have to roll with a rookie.

I could live with that. Look at Nix and Daniels.

 

[Russ Smith]

After that interception he’s done right, he just poo himself in another must win game. How many times can he make the same mistake. Bryce Young is now better than Kyler.

It wasn't ideal but I don't get why people are so triggered by that pick? If he runs out of bounds it's 4th and what 8, 9? With the time on the clock we're not going to go for it so you're punting because it's not in FG range. So the pick counted as a punt.

I can argue he should have thrown it further to create a jump ball but I don't think he had enough on the throw to do that.
That pick didn't matter at all in the game, we still got the ball back and tied the game.

The fumble was on him although once Carter doesn't have it clean he should have stopped and made sure he got it, but I am way more mad about that one than the pick it actually cost us points

 

[Dr. Jones]

Kyler Murray was destined to be a Raider when the 2025 season kicks off.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Just unacceptable.

INT was completely unacceptable, and so many chances for K1 and the offense to win that game, but with the season on the line, they couldn't get it done. Unbelievably disappointing.

It's sad K1 will be playing for his job next year (assuming he's here), but that's undoubtedly the situation.

 

[Russ Smith]

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I have to ask again, why are people so mad about that pick? It's 3rd and 12 from the 49 yardline of Carolina. I think at best he gets to the 45 or 46 yardline so it's 4th and 8 or 9. We're not going to go for it, we're not kicking a 63 yard FG, so we're almost assuredly going to punt. Even if he decided earlier to take off he's not getting us into anything shorter than maybe 60 or 61 yard FG range.

The problem there IMO is the 2nd down runcall. And he should have audibled out of it when it came in.