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He totally gave away this game. At every key moment he failed with poor decision making.

lol, no.

He had his team in front by 6 with 3 to play. If I would have offered you that before the start of the game, you would fallen all over yourself taking it.

Not saying he didn't fail on the very last drive. He did. But that's not a cardinal sin. Not on the road against a great defense.

And he made several good throws/decisions on the long Q4 drive where we got the our final FG.

Let's not overreact to the grounding call and the last INT.
 
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Does Petzing still have a job as of right this minute? He shouldn't. KM is not a bad quaterback, but he is an average quarterback in a bad system. That equals disaster and yet another 2nd half of the season collapse.
Agreed. I think it's about time to just state what the eyeball test indicates...Kyler can be a really GOOD QB...but he can also be a tremendously average one if he doesn't have the appropriate system or coaching around him. Having a timid offensive coordinator like petzing does an already timid Murray a huge disservice IMO.
 

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lol, no.

He had his team in front by 6 with 3 to play. If I would have offered you that before the start of the game, you would fallen all over yourself taking it.

Not saying he didn't fail on the very last drive. He did. But that's not a cardinal sin. Not on the road against a great defense.

But he made several good throws/decisions on the long Q4 drive where we got the our final FG.

Let's not overreact to the grounding call and the last INT.

Never Murray’s always overreact.

They still think Max Hall was a good QB.
 

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Not at all it wasn’t lost there and K1 did have a poor 4th quarter.

Both things can be true as you said earlier.
The team was winning heading into the 4th q and then was outscored 10-3 in the 4th losing the game by one. If the game ended after 3 Qs, the Cardinals win. They lost the game in the 4th Q.

Decisions and a lack of red zone execution earlier in the game made it easier to happen but still lost in the 4th.
 

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The team was winning heading into the 4th q and then was outscored 10-3 in the 4th losing the game by one. If the game ended after 3 Qs, the Cardinals win. They lost the game in the 4th Q.

Decisions and a lack of red zone execution earlier in the game made it easier to happen but still lost in the 4th.

Don’t kick FGs on the road against good teams.

Say it with me.

Don’t kick FGs on the road against good teams.
 

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lol, no.

He had his team in front by 6 with 3 to play. If I would have offered you that before the start of the game, you would fallen all over yourself taking it.

Not saying he didn't fail on the very last drive. He did. But that's not a cardinal sin. Not on the road against a great defense.

And he made several good throws/decisions on the long Q4 drive where we got the our final FG.

Let's not overreact to the grounding call and the last INT.
Dude, he choked in a clutch situation. It wasn't just those two plays.

He ran out of bounds twice to stop the clock.

He pulled up and tried to juke a LB when he just needed to turn on the corner on an scramble.

He fumbled the ball when he had pressure in his face negating a down.

Do I need to go on?

Just call a spade a spade.
 

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Dude, he choked in a clutch situation. It wasn't just those two plays.

He ran out of bounds twice to stop the clock.

He pulled up and tried to juke a LB when he just needed to turn on the corner on an scramble.

He fumbled the ball when he had pressure in his face negating a down.

Do I need to go on?

Just call a spade a spade.
I’ll field any argument that shows he’s a top 15-18 QB. It’s laughable to assert that he’s top 10
 
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