Official Kyler Murray career thread.... (post Cardinals/Vikes)

[602 Native]

I'm going to agree with you on the oline....I just wonder if they didn't worry about it because they knew Murray could escape if needed. And if this is true, they should have realized it caused different issues.

Doesn't really matter either way. You don't purposely build weak trenches. Monti is still stepping on his manhood in this area.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Career? Sure. JJ had some outstanding years.


After his down year (yes his QB sucked. Technically McBride's Qbs werent good either) I think its closer than people expect. Im also factoring in McBride appears to have a good player caller now. Kyler is injury prone so he might be dealing with the QB his play suffered with again.

Give me a break. He had one down year with the worst QBs ever and STILL had over 1000 yards, and otherwise is the best player at his position powering high powered offenses most of his career. McBride, as great as he is, has never... eh, forget it. this is too stupid to even discuss.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Buddy Jordan Addison is much better than MHJ right now.

you taking that bet on fantasy? With one read then panic Kyler Murray behind center?

Give me MHjr all day

 

[Brak]

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[PACardsFan]

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[Russ Smith]

Are we a 100% sure the Vikings have better skill players than the Cardinals?

Yes but Love does make it closer.

Love will be better than their RB"s although Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason are good I think Love and Algeir should be better.

Jefferson is just on another level over either Marv or Mike. they are good, he is just better. Addison IMO if he can stay healthy is as good as either Marv or Mike. 22 TD's in 3 years and he wasn't healthy last year 14 games and played hurt, 19 TD's in his first 2 years legit deep threat and I've always liked Jajuan Jennings. McBride obviously way better than Hockenson.

It's the best group Kyler has had since 2021 if D Hop stays healthy that year and Kyler does he would have had career highs across the board.

But agreed with the addiition of love our skill positions got pretty interesting.

 

[Russ Smith]

Is he though?

The last two seasons of stats don’t bear that out as truth? First set of stats are Marvin and the second is Jordan….

Since his rookie year he been very much similar to Marvin. This is what have you done for me lately league. Three seasons ago is a long time.

Sorry, I also realized I didn’t get Addison’s YPC and TD in his picture his are 13.9 and 14.5 the last two seasons. Both are less than Marvin. His TDs are 3 and 9 so essentially the same but Marvin played in less games.

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They're close I basically said the sam thing I think Addison is as good or better than Marv.

Hard to quantify Marv has been getting the best CB and doubles since he came in, Addison doesn't because of how good Jefferson is.

 

[Shane]

They're close I basically said the sam thing I think Addison is as good or better than Marv.

Hard to quantify Marv has been getting the best CB and doubles since he came in, Addison doesn't because of how good Jefferson is.

Exactly Marv put up the better stats in less games facing the best cornerback on every team Most of the time. Addison is dealing with the second or third cornerback on those teams. Addison also has more drops than Marvin. I don’t think there’s any definitive proof that Addison is a better player in any way shape or form, but you guys are entitled to your opinion.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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"Led Arizona to the playoffs?" LMAO

Won a bunch of games early then nearly choked away the playoffs. Literally backed into the playoffs that season due to other teams play and choked once on the biggest stage of his career. Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer and even Jake Plummer LED our team to the playoffs. Not Kyler.

 

[PACardsFan]

"Led Arizona to the playoffs?" LMAO

Won a bunch of games early then nearly choked away the playoffs. Literally backed into the playoffs that season due to other teams play and choked once on the biggest stage of his career. Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer and even Jake Plummer LED our team to the playoffs. Not Kyler.

The year he led us to the playoffs, he was leading the MVP race until his star receiver went down, his OL, which wasn’t very good to begin with, had to rely on 3rd stringers due to injuries, his RB’s got injured, and he never had a defense to rely on either. And yes, Kingsbury was a clown. All I did was provide a video clip with FACTS, FACTS, FACTS. Time will tell. We’ll see how he does with a real OC/HC in Minnesota.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The year he led us to the playoffs, he was leading the MVP race until his star receiver went down, his OL, which wasn’t very good to begin with, had to rely on 3rd stringers due to injuries, his RB’s got injured, and he never had a defense to rely on either. And yes, Kingsbury was a clown. All I did was provide a video clip with FACTS, FACTS, FACTS. Time will tell. We’ll see how he does with a real OC/HC in Minnesota.

Revisionist history. We were in so many "Win and you're in" games that year and we never got it done. Totally backed into the playoffs. Kyler NEVER won a division or playoff clinching game. Never.

We clinched that playoff berth in Week 16 after losing to the Colts, when the Rams beat the Vikings. It was entirely reliant on other teams' results—no direct clinch via their own win.

So, no one led us to the playoffs, unless you want to credit the Rams who then stomped us right out of the playoffs.