Official Kyler Murray career thread.... (post Cardinals/Vikes)

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Agree, but neither was he ever going to lead us to a superbowl, the thesmel, so it’s kind of a moot point.
Never know now, not sure Brady could have lead this mess to a Super Bowl. We have a run game, we have a hope - last year it was the run game that died even before Kyler, planned run first - just saying - km speed with love would have been killer-
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@Vacard, what do you disagree with in what I said:

Heisman-winning QBs rarely win a SB? It's only happened with two players in the history of the league.

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No QB as short as Kyler has ever won a SB? Another fact.

The disagree emoji is so weird. You disagree with facts?
Your hate for Kyler is astounding.
 

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Are we a 100% sure the Vikings have better skill players than the Cardinals?
In my opinion the answer is heck no.

Jefferson is no doubt the best skill player of all 2 teams but the group as a collective? We smoke them on TE, WR2, and RB. I could be wrong- but I'll be stunned if K1 flourishes there- he's already looked iffy in camp because hes not tall enough to see the middle of the field
 

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In my opinion the answer is heck no.

Jefferson is no doubt the best skill player of all 2 teams but the group as a collective? We smoke them on TE, WR2, and RB. I could be wrong- but I'll be stunned if K1 flourishes there- he's already looked iffy in camp because hes not tall enough to see the middle of the field
The question about KM is how many games will he give you during the season?
 

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In my opinion the answer is heck no.

Jefferson is no doubt the best skill player of all 2 teams but the group as a collective? We smoke them on TE, WR2, and RB. I could be wrong- but I'll be stunned if K1 flourishes there- he's already looked iffy in camp because hes not tall enough to see the middle of the field
Buddy Jordan Addison is much better than MHJ right now.
 

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Buddy Jordan Addison is much better than MHJ right now.
Is he though?

The last two seasons of stats don’t bear that out as truth? First set of stats are Marvin and the second is Jordan….

Since his rookie year he been very much similar to Marvin. This is what have you done for me lately league. Three seasons ago is a long time.

Sorry, I also realized I didn’t get Addison’s YPC and TD in his picture his are 13.9 and 14.5 the last two seasons. Both are less than Marvin. His TDs are 3 and 9 so essentially the same but Marvin played in less games.




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I look at it like this

McBride = Jefferson
Wilson > Addison
MHJ > Hock

And respect to what Aaron Jones has done. However, Love/Allgeier /Conner > Aaron Jones/Jordan Mason

They have the better Oline. Especially with Chase gone. However, before his injury I was willing to say we had the better interior Oline. And we know how crucial that is for Kyler. Vikings current center isnt a natural center either.


There are some Vikings fans who question if KOC commits to the run game enough. And that he doesnt call enough slants. Obviously more proven than Mike as a play caller though.

By midseason we could be saying the only noticeable upgrade is Brian Flores & that defense.
 

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The question about KM is how many games will he give you during the season?
So many questions pertaining to Murray will be answered this season. But, one thing is certain. He has to be available on a regular basis for him to get whatever recognition he deserves. The other certainty is that it’s a moot point to argue about him moving forward. All things being equal, for obvious reasons, I’ll take a 6’5” over a 5’10” QB every time. But, that being said, all things are NEVER equal. The Murray ship has sailed. I think and hope he does great in Minnesota. Maybe many on this board will end up eating crow. And maybe not. Time will tell.
 

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So many questions pertaining to Murray will be answered this season. But, one thing is certain. He has to be available on a regular basis for him to get whatever recognition he deserves. The other certainty is that it’s a moot point to argue about him moving forward. All things being equal, for obvious reasons, I’ll take a 6’5” over a 5’10” QB every time. But, that being said, all things are NEVER equal. The Murray ship has sailed. I think and hope he does great in Minnesota. Maybe many on this board will end up eating crow. And maybe not. Time will tell.
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You lost me (and probably everyone else outside of this board) right here.
Career? Sure. JJ had some outstanding years.


After his down year (yes his QB sucked. Technically McBride's Qbs werent good either) I think its closer than people expect. Im also factoring in McBride appears to have a good player caller now. Kyler is injury prone so he might be dealing with the QB his play suffered with again.
 

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In my opinion the answer is heck no.

Jefferson is no doubt the best skill player of all 2 teams but the group as a collective? We smoke them on TE, WR2, and RB. I could be wrong- but I'll be stunned if K1 flourishes there- he's already looked iffy in camp because hes not tall enough to see the middle of the field
Man im not even sure Kyler will be better than Brisset this season
 

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Career? Sure. JJ had some outstanding years.


After his down year (yes his QB sucked. Technically McBride's Qbs werent good either) I think its closer than people expect. Im also factoring in McBride appears to have a good player caller now. Kyler is injury prone so he might be dealing with the QB his play suffered with again.
Bro Justin Jefferson just turned 27. He’s at a more valuable position and could make a reasonable argument to be the best player in the NFL when properly utilized.

Yours is truly the most homer trash take imaginable.

You’re making a similar argument that Actually Carson Beck is better than Kyler Murray…?
 
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Are we a 100% sure the Vikings have better skill players than the Cardinals?
Guys stop getting high during games.

Let’s not get over our skis.

What I will say is that MLF is a million times a better play caller than Putzing.

We didn’t score like this in preseason last year and the lions are now struggling to score as well.

Dude single handily sunk this team the last 3 seasons. Lions are going to find out quick.
 
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In my opinion the answer is heck no.

Jefferson is no doubt the best skill player of all 2 teams but the group as a collective? We smoke them on TE, WR2, and RB. I could be wrong- but I'll be stunned if K1 flourishes there- he's already looked iffy in camp because hes not tall enough to see the middle of the field
Their oline is a million times better. One of the biggest issues we have had the entire time K1 was here.
 

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Their oline is a million times better. One of the biggest issues we have had the entire time K1 was here.
I'm going to agree with you on the oline....I just wonder if they didn't worry about it because they knew Murray could escape if needed. And if this is true, they should have realized it caused different issues.
 
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