Official Kyler Murray career thread.... (post Cardinals/Vikes)

[kerouac9]

A very fair article.

Who is the real Kyler Murray?

Purple Insider spent the summer trying to find out the person and player behind the narratives

www.purpleinsider.football

Finally read all of this. Really interesting if you’re a Kyler watcher.

First, it’s annoying to get so much Josh Weinfuss (who has access but is a weasel) and Cards Clancy (or whatever his name is).

Interesting to see how close Chase Edmonds and Kyler were. I wonder what happened that Chase has been out of the circle long enough that he was willing to talk.

This says pretty much what we already know: Kyler loves to work out, but he focuses on the wrong things. Confusing memory and processing.

 

[602 Native]

That’s kind of their job.

Some don’t seem to still the media isn’t here to tell you the story just a story.

Still think JJ will be traded before the end of camp.

 

[Russ Smith]

Finally read all of this. Really interesting if you’re a Kyler watcher.

First, it’s annoying to get so much Josh Weinfuss (who has access but is a weasel) and Cards Clancy (or whatever his name is).

Interesting to see how close Chase Edmonds and Kyler were. I wonder what happened that Chase has been out of the circle long enough that he was willing to talk.

This says pretty much what we already know: Kyler loves to work out, but he focuses on the wrong things. Confusing memory and processing.

Chase was the definition of why RB is such a tough position. He went from too small to an integral part of a very good offense in Arizona. I was furious when we let him go, thought he would excel in Miami, and his career just faded away. It was very apparent we knew when we released him that he'd lost something, probably just a half step, but we saw him every day and knew it and let him go.

 

[kerouac9]

Chase was the definition of why RB is such a tough position. He went from too small to an integral part of a very good offense in Arizona. I was furious when we let him go, thought he would excel in Miami, and his career just faded away. It was very apparent we knew when we released him that he'd lost something, probably just a half step, but we saw him every day and knew it and let him go.

We didn’t cut him. He left as a free agent and we kept James Conner instead.

 

[Russ Smith]

Some don’t seem to still the media isn’t here to tell you the storyJJ will be traded before the end of camp.

There's a couple of national guys who are predicting exactly that. They say the only real edge JJ has right now is he knows the system and all the players from having been there. Some of Kylers misses if you read the stories they will outright say in them he led Jefferson one way but Jefferson likes it another way so it's a getting to know guys thing not inaccurate throws.

He said you can argue JJ had 2 better days but at the end of the day everyone in camp seems to realize Murray is better and that they brought in Wentz to be the backup not #3 so the logical outcome is Murray wins the job and they trade JJ

 

[Russ Smith]

We didn’t cut him. He left as a free agent and we kept James Conner instead.

Yeah let him go not released him. I was furious I wanted to keep them both but we clearly knew something then that nobody else did.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Some don’t seem to still the media isn’t here to tell you the story just a story.

Still think JJ will be traded before the end of camp.

Just heard on the radio that Kyler is clearly behind JJ because he needs to learn the offense while JJ already knows the offense. Would be ironic if JJ got the nod because Kyler just has more studying to do.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

He said you can argue JJ had 2 better days but at the end of the day everyone in camp seems to realize Murray is better and that they brought in Wentz to be the backup not #3 so the logical outcome is Murray wins the job and they trade JJ

They also said on the radio that if JJ continues to outplay Kyler, but Kyler still gets the job then there was a handshake deal all along and this has not been a fair QB competition. When the Vikings brought in Kyler many speculated he would automatically be the starter. Maybe that was an assumption that he'd just be better or maybe it was a back room promise that the job was his.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Still think JJ will be traded before the end of camp.

0% chance

 

[Russ Smith]

They also said on the radio that if JJ continues to outplay Kyler, but Kyler still gets the job then there was a handshake deal all along and this has not been a fair QB competition. When the Vikings brought in Kyler many speculated he would automatically be the starter. Maybe that was an assumption that he'd just be better or maybe it was a back room promise that the job was his.

I saw someone say that but I kind of just ignored it because it literally makes no sense. Kevin O'Connell is considered to be one of the best QB coaches in the NFL. Minnesota has a super bowl level offense with one exception, QB, the defense is coached by a guy O'Connell considers to be a genius, Brian Flores. They think they are a contender. So the idea that they would just give the job to Kyler even though JJ is better is just silly to me. they are in a window where if they find the right QB they can be really good, those windows usually don't last long in the NFL, so the idea that they would sit a better QB because they promised Murray I just don't buy. Especially given how small his contract is there it's not like they paid 30 million and feel obligated to play him. If one guys better than the other and younger, and more familiar with the system, they would start him.

Guess we'll see.

 

[Zalixar]

Is it football season yet?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Is it football season yet?

6 days away

 

[Zalixar]

6 days away

The REAL football season

 

[kerouac9]

They also said on the radio that if JJ continues to outplay Kyler, but Kyler still gets the job then there was a handshake deal all along and this has not been a fair QB competition. When the Vikings brought in Kyler many speculated he would automatically be the starter. Maybe that was an assumption that he'd just be better or maybe it was a back room promise that the job was his.

What radio is this?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

What radio is this?

98.7 morning show with Bickley and Marotta. They played clips from Vikings coaches and Minnesota reporters commenting on their TC so far.

 

[az jam]

Training camp can't feature one of Kylers 's strong points with is speed and his ability to break plays for long gains or first downs. JJ is not a bad running qb but not in Kyler's league especially scrambling.

 

[602 Native]

Just heard on the radio that Kyler is clearly behind JJ because he needs to learn the offense while JJ already knows the offense. Would be ironic if JJ got the nod because Kyler just has more studying to do.

I realize this is your wet dream but it ain’t happening.

K1 will start and JJ will likely be traded before the season starts.

 

[GatorAZ]

How often does a QB competition result in a team having a good season? Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn was the last one I remember.

 

[urs]

I realize this is your wet dream but it ain’t happening.

K1 will start and JJ will likely be traded before the season starts.

BIM latches on to anything remotely negative about Kyler and takes it as gospel. He's still far more obsessed with him than those of us who were his biggest supporters when he was here.

 

[QuebecCard]

Just heard on the radio that Kyler is clearly behind JJ because he needs to learn the offense while JJ already knows the offense. Would be ironic if JJ got the nod because Kyler just has more studying to do.

And O'Connell has praised Kyler's dealing with the learning curve.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

BIM latches on to anything remotely negative about Kyler and takes it as gospel. He's still far more obsessed with him than those of us who were his biggest supporters when he was here.

I am so happy that Kyler is gone. He is Minnesota's headache now. I want him to get the QB job there so they can experience the pain of Cards fans everywhere when he lets them down like he let all of us down. Kyler will never have sustained success in the league. He'll show flashes then regress. It's what he does. He'll always be remembered for backing into the playoffs and getting destroyed by the Rams.

 

[urs]

I am so happy that Kyler is gone. He is Minnesota's headache now. I want him to get the QB job there so they can experience the pain of Cards fans everywhere when he lets them down like he let all of us down. Kyler will never have sustained success in the league. He'll show flashes then regress. It's what he does. He'll always be remembered for backing into the playoffs and getting destroyed by the Rams.

You are so happy he's gone you are closely monitoring his success/failure at training camp for another team. I believe you

 

[Brian in Mesa]

You are so happy he's gone you are closely monitoring his success/failure at training camp for another team. I believe you

Closely monitoring - you mean by listening to the local ARIZONA morning radio show, as I stated in my posts. LOL

As I've said before, I have been a Cards fan longer than Kyler has been alive, and I'll be one long after he's hung up his little cleats. Some of the accounts on here only joined around the time Kyler became a Cardinal and they seem more obsessed with how he is doing now than the diehard Cards fans. They were always more Kyler fans than actual Cardinals fans.

Once the season starts, my wife and I will be going to all the Cardinals home games as we always do. The Cardinals and Vikings do not play each other this regular season, so how the Vikings do is of no consequence, unless we are fighting for a wild card spot or something.

Have a great day !!

 

[Chopper0080]

One piece of advice I will give to those still invested in the Murray outcome is to be patient taking your victory laps and wait until the season is over.

 

[urs]

One piece of advice I will give to those still invested in the Murray outcome is to be patient taking your victory laps and wait until the season is over.

Not sure anyone is still "invested" in Murray from a Cards fan standpoint...except maybe those like BIM who hope he fails spectacularly. He might, and if he does we know who will be here posting about it multiple times a day.