Monte's Free Agents...Hits, Misses, Meh

[Card'em]

Monte's had some hits and some misses, but most of his signings have been "meh". A three year total of 5 "hits" is part of the reason our team is "meh", like so many of his free agent signings.

Hits
Froholdt
Mack Jones
Calais Campbell
Jacoby Brisett
Josh Sweat

Misses
Bilal Nichols
Justin Jones
Jonah Williams
Zay Jones

Meh
Sean Murphy-Bunting
Akeen Davis-Gaither
L. J. Collier
Evan Brown
Baron Browning
Kelvin Beachum
Dalvin Thomlinson

 

[az jam]

He is not proactive at all during the season and his drafts are nothing special. Keim was much more of a wheeler-dealer during the season. I can't believe I miss the "Keim time" deals.

 

[imaCafan]

Which is worse, try and fail, or not try at all…

 

[PACardsFan]

Because of the toll that the injuries have taken, too soon for me to judge on Monti. OL & DL coaches were bad hires, and that’s more on JG. Football is won and lost on the LOS, and we’ve done a poor job coaching these groups. STOP hiring college coaches. This is the NFL!!!

 

[Stout]

Because of the toll that the injuries have taken, too soon for me to judge on Monti. OL & DL coaches were bad hires, and that’s more on JG. Football is won and lost on the LOS, and we’ve done a poor job coaching these groups. STOP hiring college coaches. This is the NFL!!!

Building in the trenches was his priority and Monti has sucked at it. It is time to judge him.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Monte's had some hits and some misses, but most of his signings have been "meh". A three year total of 5 "hits" is part of the reason our team is "meh", like so many of his free agent signings.

Hits
Froholdt
Mack Jones
Calais Campbell
Jacoby Brisett
Josh Sweat

Misses
Bilal Nichols
Justin Jones
Jonah Williams
Zay Jones

Meh
Sean Murphy-Bunting
Akeen Davis-Gaither
L. J. Collier
Evan Brown
Baron Browning
Kelvin Beachum
Dalvin Thomlinson

BTW it's Monti

BIM

 

[PACardsFan]

Building in the trenches was his priority and Monti has sucked at it. It is time to judge him.

His first priority was to rebuild the entire team from scratch & to bring a culture into the locker room. He definitely accomplished the latter, but there’s no way to guarantee the avoidance of how injuries have derailed development. No one could have imagined just how much losing an OL coach could have affected an OL that prior to this season was the strength of the team. When you’ve had the negative swing in production from one year to the next, you fire the OL coach, not the GM.

 

[Cheesebeef]

His first priority was to rebuild the entire team from scratch & to bring a culture into the locker room. He definitely accomplished the latter…

LOL… what culture has he brought in for a team that in two of his three seasons have suffered atrocious streaks losing 8 of 9 games and finishing last season a pathetic 2-5?

but there’s no way to guarantee the avoidance of how injuries have derailed development. No one could have imagined just how much losing an OL coach could have affected an OL that prior to this season was the strength of the team. When you’ve had the negative swing in production from one year to the next, you fire the OL coach, not the GM.

When you’ve had that kind of negative swing in production with mostly the same talent from one year to another simply because you lost a position coach, you’re looking at a talent deficiency, period. In year 3 on the job, Monti had the O-line he wanted and had built for three years in tact. If simply losing a position coach could turn a solid group that’s mostly the same from last year into one of the worst in the league, that shows the group was greatly coached up previously and not all that good… and those players were picked by Monti.

And even if you want to give Monti a pass there, he’s still responsible for REPEATEDLY hiring bad college coaches.

Bottom line, the majority of the season, this O-line has been the line Monti built and they’ve been a trainwreck in year 3 and it’s the one area of the team that up until last week wasn’t crippled by injuries. That’s on him no matter how you slice it.

 

[BritCard]

Monte's had some hits and some misses, but most of his signings have been "meh". A three year total of 5 "hits" is part of the reason our team is "meh", like so many of his free agent signings.

Hits
Froholdt
Mack Jones
Calais Campbell
Jacoby Brisett
Josh Sweat

Misses
Bilal Nichols
Justin Jones
Jonah Williams
Zay Jones

Meh
Sean Murphy-Bunting
Akeen Davis-Gaither
L. J. Collier
Evan Brown
Baron Browning
Kelvin Beachum
Dalvin Thomlinson

Dalvin, Beachum, Browning and Collier have all been hits. If you count hits as value for what they have been paid, which you should.

Not sure what you expect from Dalvin? He's a space eating run stopper, that's not something the average fan isn't going to see watching games.

 

[football karma]

the free agents are in two buckets:

high dollar, multi year contract guys
low dollar, 1 or 2 year contract guys

of the high dollar guys:

it has not been good. Nichols, Jones and Williams all missed 2x more games in their 1.75 years as Cardinals than they did their entire careers prior. An element of that is bad luck, but an element is over paying for two DTs who were pretty run of the mill.

low dollar guys have been better: Foholdt and Mack Wilson. the trade for Baron Browning, Calais, Tomlinson. Even Evan Brown would have been a good signing as a depth guard

 

[football karma]

Bottom line, the majority of the season, this O-line has been the line Monti built and they’ve been a trainwreck in year 3 and it’s the one area of the team that up until last week wasn’t crippled by injuries. That’s on him no matter how you slice it.

no 1 reason to move on from Monti

oh by the way:

Joe Tuney of the Chiefs was traded for a 4th round pick this offseason for KC cap reasons. Wouldnt a two time all pro guard have been a nice addition?

 

[Stout]

His first priority was to rebuild the entire team from scratch & to bring a culture into the locker room. He definitely accomplished the latter, but there’s no way to guarantee the avoidance of how injuries have derailed development. No one could have imagined just how much losing an OL coach could have affected an OL that prior to this season was the strength of the team. When you’ve had the negative swing in production from one year to the next, you fire the OL coach, not the GM.

You conveniently ignored the other side of the ball in the trenches. Also, we're not laying 100 percent of the OL problem on the coach. Monti absolutely failed to strengthen the IOL. At all. Everyone pointed out the need and weakness. Monti passively acknowledged it by trying to sign a big FA. Trying but failing is failing, and he didn't bring anyone else in. He also rolled with Jonah again. That's all on Monti. It's great we had an OL coach that held everything together with spit and baling wire, but you can't count on that year to year.

 

[Card'em]

Dalvin, Beachum, Browning and Collier have all been hits. If you count hits as value for what they have been paid, which you should.

Not sure what you expect from Dalvin? He's a space eating run stopper, that's not something the average fan isn't going to see watching games.

Yea, I thought about including Dalvin and Beachum in the hits category. I don't agree with Browning and Collier as hits. In the end it's my very subjective grading, so differences of opinion are expected.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

since week 2 of this season, the Cards have been the worst team in the league. 1 win. Tennessee also only has 1 win. Who was that against?
Judge Monti on that.

 

[Chopper0080]

no 1 reason to move on from Monti

oh by the way:

Joe Tuney of the Chiefs was traded for a 4th round pick this offseason for KC cap reasons. Wouldnt a two time all pro guard have been a nice addition?

It is these missed opportunities which have hurt Monti. He just has not been aggressive enough.

 

[Mulli]

no 1 reason to move on from Monti

oh by the way:

Joe Tuney of the Chiefs was traded for a 4th round pick this offseason for KC cap reasons. Wouldnt a two time all pro guard have been a nice addition?

Go Bears

 

[Stout]

It is these missed opportunities which have hurt Monti. He just has not been aggressive enough.

Ever since day 1, he has been unforgivably passive. Gotta keep that powder dry to line the owner's pockets!

 

[Mickdog]

His first priority was to rebuild the entire team from scratch & to bring a culture into the locker room. He definitely accomplished the latter, but there’s no way to guarantee the avoidance of how injuries have derailed development. No one could have imagined just how much losing an OL coach could have affected an OL that prior to this season was the strength of the team. When you’ve had the negative swing in production from one year to the next, you fire the OL coach, not the GM.

Costco Yogurt has more culture than the Card’s locker room

 

[Morty]

Because of the toll that the injuries have taken, too soon for me to judge on Monti. OL & DL coaches were bad hires, and that’s more on JG. Football is won and lost on the LOS, and we’ve done a poor job coaching these groups. STOP hiring college coaches. This is the NFL!!!

Did the owner give the GM enough time to find good quality coaches? After he was done searching for a head coach (I thought the owner was doing this) little time was left and most of the quality coaches were hired. Sound about right?

 

[slanidrac16]

Go Bears

Oh but we would of had to give up a precious 4th round pick.
Sad.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Until the valley rises up against Michael Bidwill..... Nothing will change.

 

[Mulli]

Oh but we would of had to give up a precious 4th round pick.
Sad.

Need more blocking tight ends and frail dbs

 

[slanidrac16]

Need more blocking tight ends and frail dbs

It starts with Bidwill. We could of made that trade you speak of. But a veteran is going to cost more than a 4th round pick. There in lies the real problem.
Draft picks are relatively cheap. This club consistently is looking for the diamond in the rough, the guy coming off injury, the guy coming off a bad year or a rookie.
Comparing it to baseball we are a double A club playing in the major leagues.

 

[Mulli]

It starts with Bidwill. We could of made that trade you speak of. But a veteran is going to cost more than a 4th round pick. There in lies the real problem.
Draft picks are relatively cheap. This club consistently is looking for the diamond in the rough, the guy coming off injury, the guy coming off a bad year or a rookie.
Comparing it to baseball we are a double A club playing in the major leagues.

And Thuney would have to agree to it me thinks.

 

[Mickdog]

Until the valley rises up against Michael Bidwill..... Nothing will change.

Completely agree.

I’ve never understood why fans, politicians and civic leaders continue to kiss the ring of a guy that has no rings.