Martz to SF
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Mike Martz has a reputation of making an average Qb into a stud like Warner, Bulger, Kitna, and Trent Green. The 49ers just need a #1 WR and Frank Gore will be scary under Mike Martz, can you say Marshall Faulk?
For those that think Martz is pass pass only, you don't know anything. The Rams offense was revolve around Marshall Faulk AND THEN Warner and the WRs. Martz even said that himself. He just never had anybody since Faulk to run the ball well.
For those that think Martz is pass pass only, you don't know anything. The Rams offense was revolve around Marshall Faulk AND THEN Warner and the WRs. Martz even said that himself. He just never had anybody since Faulk to run the ball well.
Southpaw
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I will not be surprised if Shaun Hill wins the job under Martz. Hotsler was an absolute joke as an OC. Losing Turner was a huge blow to '9ers. As I mentioned earlier Frank Gore can thrive in Martz scheme. He can flat out catch the ball. He could have 80 catches in a Martz scheme.
The problem in Detroit was a very bad running corp. Kevin Jones could never stay on the field and TJ Duckett is mediocre at best. Matt Millen wouldn't know a balanced roster if it bit him on the butt. They improved immensely on offense this year and he fires Martz. Brilliant.
The problem in Detroit was a very bad running corp. Kevin Jones could never stay on the field and TJ Duckett is mediocre at best. Matt Millen wouldn't know a balanced roster if it bit him on the butt. They improved immensely on offense this year and he fires Martz. Brilliant.
moklerman
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That's sure what it looks like but Miami's season was long over when he would have had an opportunity to possibly come back so I think the possibility is there that he might make another try at playing. I haven't been keeping up on him though so I don't really know. The last time I saw him interviewed he seemed really intent on continuing to play. I also haven't heard him announce his retirement.
Martz didn't bring in anyone familiar with his system in Detroit so this is probably just the wildest of speculation on my part. I just think with his history of not focusing on young QB's as his starter that he might bring in a QB familiar to the system to bridge the gap. Smith seems to be worse than a rookie QB at this point. He has to be untaught all the bad things that he's learned rather than just being a blank slate.
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Kitna, a "stud"? Didn't anyone notice he threw more INTs than TDs this year?
Too bad for the 49er's that they don't have even an average QB on their squad!
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The big thing is peopel forget the Martz system involved having good Wr's. With the Rams they had Holt and Bruce for years, the system was at its best with Hakim as the #3.
Detroit has some good Wr's.
Sf has who? Jackson struggled all year, Lelie was a bust, if they're going to put in the Martz system, they need to draft, trade and sign WR's to fit it.
Jackson is the only guy on the current roster who has a history of being a Martz level WR, Lelie has the speed I guess, Battle is a decent player but they sure don't look like the typical Martz wr group.
Detroit has some good Wr's.
Sf has who? Jackson struggled all year, Lelie was a bust, if they're going to put in the Martz system, they need to draft, trade and sign WR's to fit it.
Jackson is the only guy on the current roster who has a history of being a Martz level WR, Lelie has the speed I guess, Battle is a decent player but they sure don't look like the typical Martz wr group.
This is great news for the Cardinals!
Martz hasn't done anything recently. He will have nothing to work with in SF so I'm not worried one bit.
Martz hasn't done anything recently. He will have nothing to work with in SF so I'm not worried one bit.
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sorry-- one 30 min press conference isnt going to erase 7 years of play calling history.
Steven Jackson, who many feel is as good if not better than Frank Gore was underutilized by Martz.
Its just a very curious hire.
moklerman
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That's debatable. Jackson's rookie year Faulk was still the #1 guy. On his way out, but still a year away from retiring. Jackson's second year, Martz had heart problems and wasn't able to coach for a large portion of the season.
Martz's biggest weakness isn't underutilyzing RB's, it's putting too much pressure on his o-line. The Lions had a terrible o-line and no RB's that were particularly talented or multi-faceted. I would have loved to have seen Martz coaching Tiki Barber and the Giants. He'll get the most out of whatever he winds up working with but I can't imagine the Niners not picking up players that fit into whatever he wants to do. They won't stick with Jackson, etc.
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I don't think it's curious at all. They need someone who can develop Alex Smith. Martz will certainly do that. Even if he;s only there two years, Smith will be a better QB and understand routes and timing better than he would have otherwise.
That or Smith will be officially certified as having PTSD syndrome in a couple of years... Take your pick!
Great ending line in that article:
"Martz has been known to come up with the right play call on third-and-long. The question now is: Does he have one for fourth-and-forever?"
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curious is that Martz's system is notoriously complex -- and regardless of if its Smith or Hill, the Qb will be young and inexperienced in the system.
Smith is also a guy who, to paraphrase Urban Myer, his coach at Utah--"will stuggle until he knows the system inside and out, but then the next year run it perfectly."
The problem is, Mike Nolan probably doesnt have a year.
Count me among those who think Martz is a good coach and a good hire, traits he shares with Mike Nolan.
The situation could pose long term problems for us if it weren't for one overriding saving fact: John and Denise York, the Niner owners, are meddling incompetents, guaranteed to find ways to ruin any lucky good choices they make. Hallelujah.
The situation could pose long term problems for us if it weren't for one overriding saving fact: John and Denise York, the Niner owners, are meddling incompetents, guaranteed to find ways to ruin any lucky good choices they make. Hallelujah.
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Hard to believe that not only is the Cards ownership situation not the worst in the NFL, but there are two worse ones in their own division.
Yeah, the current division could not be any different than competing against the likes of the Cowboys, Skins, Giants, and Eagles of the 70's, 80's, and 90's.
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If they're telling the truth it's not a given Smith will be the QB. There are some who think Martz will just make it obvious quicker they blew it taking Smith.
I don't know if Hill is a smokescreen but supposedly there are people in the organization who like him more than Smith already. Of course they also said there were people who wanted anybody BUT Martz for OC.
It'll be interesting but I'll bet they are frantically looking for WR's now.
Pariah
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How's the top of the draft look for WRs? I'll bet SF tries to trade down to the middle/end of the first.
The Patroits have the Niners first round pick.
What's this I hear about the 49ers hiring someone with smartz on their team? With someone who has some smartz on board, there is a chance we could lose to that crummy team!
I liked it a lot better when they only had a bunch of dummies on that team because it made it easy to beat them all the time!
Why the way they were, we could never lose to them!
Oh, wait.......... Yes?
We did?!?!
Twice????
Never mind.
Sincerely,
Emily Litella
I liked it a lot better when they only had a bunch of dummies on that team because it made it easy to beat them all the time!
Why the way they were, we could never lose to them!
Oh, wait.......... Yes?
We did?!?!
Twice????
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Never mind.
Sincerely,
Emily Litella
Big deal.
For one he doesn't have the receiving corps that the Lions or Rams had.
For another , he will see to it that Alex Smith will not make it thru the season. Martz is a QB killer.
AND, the 49ers are in total turmoil. Their regime has gone thru a complete makeover and they will have to take 2 steps back before moving forward.
If the 49ers were our team heading into the 07 season, we would be calling for a mutiny of the entire staff. They so vastly under produced it's downright crazy.
I know they beat us twice, but still can't believe it.
For one he doesn't have the receiving corps that the Lions or Rams had.
For another , he will see to it that Alex Smith will not make it thru the season. Martz is a QB killer.
AND, the 49ers are in total turmoil. Their regime has gone thru a complete makeover and they will have to take 2 steps back before moving forward.
If the 49ers were our team heading into the 07 season, we would be calling for a mutiny of the entire staff. They so vastly under produced it's downright crazy.
I know they beat us twice, but still can't believe it.
Stout
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I think this is great news for us. Nolan isn't what he was built up to be, and Martz will help that team explode in a bad way. They don't have the receivers or QB for his offense, and Martz's patience is notoriously thin. Good.
