Kent Somers' guess on when camp opens and more

[Mainstreet]

Kent Somers guess is the Cardinals will open camp August 1st or 2nd in Flagstaff per azcentral article dated 7-24-11. Also here are his thoughts about the players.

Under the tentative plan, players will start to arrive on Wednesday for physicals, etc. Teams will be able to begin to re-sign their own players that day and perhaps talk trade with other teams and negotiate with free agents. Those deals probably won't be able to be officially completed for a few more days.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/135347

 

[Crazy Canuck]

This ESPN story includes a timeline:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6...ners-players-come-deal-all-points-sources-say

 

[Catfish]

Well, I'm certainly ready. I want even more to see how our Front Office functions in a pressure packed few days of free agency and contract negotiations. Will RG actually benefit from the extra hands processing contracts, so that all he has to do is review them and approve them, or will he once again become the dam in the stream that holds everything up with his incessant snail's pace activity. I can't hardly wait to see the outcome of this process across the league. Any guesses as to how the Cardinals will fare in this sudden beehive of frenzied activity???????

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Well, I'm certainly ready. I want even more to see how our Front Office functions in a pressure packed few days of free agency and contract negotiations. Will RG actually benefit from the extra hands processing contracts, so that all he has to do is review them and approve them, or will he once again become the dam in the stream that holds everything up with his incessant snail's pace activity. I can't hardly wait to see the outcome of this process across the league. Any guesses as to how the Cardinals will fare in this sudden beehive of frenzied activity???????

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[JeffGollin]

Careful...

(As of 10 am ET Monday) there is no official timeline

While the gist of everything is that there should be FA, UDFA and trade activity between now and Sat., there are still conflicting info as to whether some of this will start as early as today or perhaps as late as Wednesday (or even later).

Once everything gets signed, there should be either an official timetable issued by the League (or perhaps as a joint communique from both League and NFLPA).

Til then, we'd probably be well advised to cool our jets and keep our eyes and ears close to our radios, computers and TV sets.

Those of us obsessed with keeping our roster/depth-chart info up to date should expect a wild ride.

 

[john h]

Well, I'm certainly ready. I want even more to see how our Front Office functions in a pressure packed few days of free agency and contract negotiations. Will RG actually benefit from the extra hands processing contracts, so that all he has to do is review them and approve them, or will he once again become the dam in the stream that holds everything up with his incessant snail's pace activity. I can't hardly wait to see the outcome of this process across the league. Any guesses as to how the Cardinals will fare in this sudden beehive of frenzied activity???????

How right you are. Speed has never been our long suit. I recall some sort of big deal we were trying to do. Mr. B was in Europe on vacation so it could not happen, if it ever did, until he returned. Apparently the phones would not work. I see that under the new CBA teams will have to spend at least 92% of the CAP. Does anyone know what the average percent spent has been over past years?

 

[john h]

(As of 10 am ET Monday) there is no official timeline

While the gist of everything is that there should be FA, UDFA and trade activity between now and Sat., there are still conflicting info as to whether some of this will start as early as today or perhaps as late as Wednesday (or even later).

Once everything gets signed, there should be either an official timetable issued by the League (or perhaps as a joint communique from both League and NFLPA).

Til then, we'd probably be well advised to cool our jets and keep our eyes and ears close to our radios, computers and TV sets.

Those of us obsessed with keeping our roster/depth-chart info up to date should expect a wild ride.

Here is something to bet on: Who will be the first team to sign a FA QB? How many days will it take the Cards to acquire a QB?

 

[Cards Czar]

How right you are. Speed has never been our long suit. I recall some sort of big deal we were trying to do. Mr. B was in Europe on vacation so it could not happen, if it ever did, until he returned. Apparently the phones would not work. I see that under the new CBA teams will have to spend at least 92% of the CAP. Does anyone know what the average percent spent has been over past years?

• Salary cap plus benefits of $142.4 million per club in 2011 ($120.375 million for salary and bonus) and at least that amount in 2012 and 2013.
• Beginning in 2012, salary cap to be set based on a combined share of "all revenue," a new model differentiated by revenue source with no expense reductions. Players will receive 55 percent of national media revenue, 45 percent of NFL Ventures revenue and 40 percent of local club revenue.
• Also beginning in 2012, annual "true up" to reflect revenue increases or decreases versus projections.
• Clubs receive credit for actual stadium investment and up to 1.5 percent of revenue each year.
• Player share must average at least 47 percent for the 10-year term of the agreement.
• Leaguewide commitment to cash spending of 99 percent of the cap in 2011 and 2012.
• For the 2013-2016 seasons, and again for the 2017-2020 seasons, the clubs collectively will commit to cash spending of at least 95 percent of the cap.
• Each club will be committed to cash spending of 89 percent of the cap from 2013-2016 and 2017-2020.
• Increases to minimum salaries of 10 percent in Year 1 with continuing increases each year of the agreement.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...abor-deal-details.ap/index.html#ixzz1T8YANIdn

 

[40yearfan]

• For the 2013-2016 seasons, and again for the 2017-2020 seasons, the clubs collectively will commit to cash spending of at least 95 percent of the cap.
• Each club will be committed to cash spending of 89 percent of the cap from 2013-2016 and 2017-2020.

Does this not sound like they are contradicting themselves? Which is it 89% or 95%?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Does this not sound like they are contradicting themselves? Which is it 89% or 95%?

the difference i believe is the "clubs will collectively" spend 95% versus each club will spend "89%" which I think means that as long as the league as a whole spends to 95% (meaning some teams spend 100% while others can spend 89%) it'll be kosher... but that looks like teams CAN spend 89%... we better not be one of those teams on the cheap side of the bell-curve.

 

[Cards Czar]

the difference i believe is the "clubs will collectively" spend 95% versus each club will spend "89%" which I think means that as long as the league as a whole spends to 95% (meaning some teams spend 100% while others can spend 89%) it'll be kosher... but that looks like teams CAN spend 89%... we better not be one of those teams on the cheap side of the bell-curve.

I wonder if the benefits are included also in those %'s. I guess we wont really know until the CBA is published.

 

[40yearfan]

the difference i believe is the "clubs will collectively" spend 95% versus each club will spend "89%" which I think means that as long as the league as a whole spends to 95% (meaning some teams spend 100% while others can spend 89%) it'll be kosher... but that looks like teams CAN spend 89%... .

Thanks Cheese. After seeing your explanation and re-reading it, I agree with you.

 

[AzStevenCal]

the difference i believe is the "clubs will collectively" spend 95% versus each club will spend "89%" which I think means that as long as the league as a whole spends to 95% (meaning some teams spend 100% while others can spend 89%) it'll be kosher... but that looks like teams CAN spend 89%... we better not be one of those teams on the cheap side of the bell-curve.

Seriously, do you think there is any chance we won't be on the down side of that curve. Given the Phoenix market, I think the best we can hope for is somewhere near the middle and that doesn't include the Bill Bidwill factor.

Steve

 

[Stout]

Yeah, we're screwed.