Kansas City Chiefs @ Arizona Cardinals Pregame Thread. 9/2/22-9/10/22

[Cardsfan77]

Jinxed lol

That MFer no one hit him with the in time???

 

[cardncubfan]

I'm sorry, but this isn't an insult.

Condescending but not technically an insult. K9's MO imo.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Rondale Moore injures hammy at practice, to undergo MRI

Jesus.

Build a team of perpetually injured reaches and you get what you deserve.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Because guys like Ertz/Watt/Rondale are always injured, and a guy like Trayvon Mullen was given away, and is injured again after playing 4 games last year.

It's hard to imagine it's a strength and conditioning program issue. More likely brittle players breaking down.

Castles made of sand…

 

[daves]

Build a team of perpetually injured reaches and you get what you deserve.

Do the Cardinals really draft & sign injury prone players more than other teams? Or is this something that every team's fans think whenever someone gets hurt?

@K9 & others are fond of pointing out how "obvious" it was that some player would be injured... But has anyone actually analyzed how the injury history of the players Keim brings in compare to those of other teams' players?

Based on this, the Cards have lost fewer man-games to injury than 2/3 of the league's teams:

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So does Keim now deserve praise for bringing in players who are LESS prone to injury than the average GM's aquisitions? Or does the whole meme now get discredited?

Can't have it both ways.

Edited to add: here are the 2021-only numbers. Cards are right in the middle.

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...dave

 

[DVontel]

Moore is an average player so I’m not distraught but Hollywood/AJ/Ertz are good enough to generate yards and move the ball. Give me one deep shot to Andy.

AJ possibly being our WR1 in 2022 hilarious.

Keim is the best.

 

[AZ Native]

AJ possibly being our WR1 in 2022 hilarious.

He is due for a turn around this year.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Do the Cardinals really draft & sign injury prone players more than other teams? Or is this something that every team's fans think whenever someone gets hurt?

@K9 & others are fond of pointing out how "obvious" it was that some player would be injured... But has anyone actually analyzed how the injury history of the players Keim brings in compare to those of other teams' players?

Based on this, the Cards have lost fewer man-games to injury than 2/3 of the league's teams:

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So does Keim now deserve praise for bringing in players who are LESS prone to injury than the average GM's aquisitions? Or does the whole meme now get discredited?

Can't have it both ways.

Edited to add: here are the 2021-only numbers. Cards are right in the middle.

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...dave

Dave… as someone who not only had a a Caddyshack Bday party, but unknowingly dirty dance’d with my mom who was costumed as a Gopher at said party, I can have it any way I want it.

 

[Harry]

I can’t envision any way the Cards win or even compete effectively in this game. It could easily be a rout. I’m thinking the best outcome is avoiding any more serious injuries.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can’t envision any way the Cards win or even compete effectively in this game. It could easily be a rout. I’m thinking the best outcome is avoiding any more serious injuries.

I’m imagining an uglier version of that Redskins stinker that started the 2017 campaign. A little more scoring both ways, but one that makes us feel relatively hopeless moving forward.

Although the Chiefs are MUCH better than that Skins team and we are much better than that Cards team.

Okay… maybe it will be nothing like that game long-term, except a big fat L in the short term.

And if I’m wrong, I’d love to see it while fully bracing myself for people to attack, insult and do whatever they did in a drunken rage like they did last season after game 1.

 

[SoonerLou]

Lamar beat the Chiefs with Hollywood as his #1 Wr. Now he did have Mark Andrews as well, but still.

Find a way.

 

[Dayman]

Lamar beat the Chiefs with Hollywood as his #1 Wr. Now he did have Mark Andrews as well, but still.

Find a way.

He also had a defense.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I’m imagining an uglier version of that Redskins stinker that started the 2017 campaign.

Such a ridiculous comparison. This team won 11 games last year with largely the same roster.

Bad take.

 

[Proximo]

He also had a defense.

It's week 1, being certain about anything seems silly to me.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Such a ridiculous comparison. This team won 11 games last year with largely the same roster.

Bad take.

I amended it after a second of thought.

Prob won’t have the long term implications the 2017 opener did, but short term could still see us getting crushed fugly. I don’t think it’s ridiculous at all to think we have a shot of getting crushed this week. We’re playing a more talented, better coached Super Bowl contender and the best QB in the league going against an absolutely barren corner group… with a pass rush that may be awful. That’s a recipe for disaster.

That said, the idea that this team this week (which is the issue at hand) is largely the same roster that won 11 games last year is a bad take as well.

The team this week has no Hopkins/Chandler Jones/Alford/Ednmonds/Moore and possibly no Ertz as well. All of those guys were key pieces of the 11 win puzzle last year. And none of them have adequate/equivalent replacements in there for them this week.

Oh yeah… also no Hicks, no Phillips who contributed early last season when we built that 7-0 start as well. I guess we have Zaven to hopefully step up for Hicks.

Oh Jesus….i also forgot Watt might also be out with a calf injury. And Golden hasn’t practiced in a month and is also game-time, right?

I mean, the more I think about it, if Golden and Watt are out also? At that point, the most ridiculous thing here might be comparing the team on the field this week to anything remotely resembling the team that won 11 games last year.

Big Mad response laced with insults incoming 3… 2… 1…

 

[ajcardfan]

I am always more comfortable when everyone thinks we will get crushed.

Nothing to lose baby!!!!

 

[kerouac9]

I amended it after a second of thought.

Prob won’t have the long term implications the 2017 opener did, but short term could still see us getting crushed fugly.

That said, the idea that this team this week (which is the issue at hand) is largely the same roster that won 11 games last year is a bad take as well.

The team this week has no Hopkins/Chandler Jones/Alford/Ednmonds/Moore and possibly no Ertz as well. All of those guys were key pieces of the 11 win puzzle last year. And none of them have adequate/equivalent replacements in there for them this week.

And Hicks

 

[Cheesebeef]

I am always more comfortable when everyone thinks we will get crushed.

Nothing to lose baby!!!!

Well, we’re certainly used to being in the position expecting to be crushed.

 

[Cheesebeef]

And Hicks

Oof… right. And Hicks.

And Philips who was contributing during the beginning of the season when we racked up the majority of those 11 wins before we totally fell apart… after injuries to most of the guys I listed above.

 

[slanidrac16]

I’m imagining an uglier version of that Redskins stinker that started the 2017 campaign. A little more scoring both ways, but one that makes us feel relatively hopeless moving forward.

Although the Chiefs are MUCH better than that Skins team and we are much better than that Cards team.

Okay… maybe it will be nothing like that game long-term, except a big fat L in the short term.

And if I’m wrong, I’d love to see it while fully bracing myself for people to attack, insult and do whatever they did in a drunken rage like they did last season after game 1.

Oh God. I said these same words to my son. This game is going to be like the Steve Wilks opener….

 

[Cheesebeef]

Oh God. I said these same words to my son. This game is going to be like the Steve Wilks opener….

I don’t think it will have the long term ramifications if it’s that level blowout though.

That game was embarassing and made the entire season hopeless because we were “healthy” and still got annihilated by what was obviously a mediocre at best, most likely bad team. The Chiefs are a title contender and we have a lot more talent than that Cards team did.

So all hope won’t be extinguished if we get crushed. But it always stings to lose opening weekend in any fashion.

 

[slanidrac16]

I don’t think it will have the long term ramifications if it’s that level blowout though.

That game was embarassing and made the entire season hopeless because we were “healthy” and still got annihilated by what was obviously a mediocre at best, most likely bad team. The Chiefs are a title contender and we have a lot more talent than that Cards team did.

So all hope won’t be extinguished if we get crushed. But it always stings to lose opening weekend in any fashion.

I agree. It’s the irony of me saying the same damn thing.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I amended it after a second of thought.

Prob won’t have the long term implications the 2017 opener did, but short term could still see us getting crushed fugly. I don’t think it’s ridiculous at all to think we have a shot of getting crushed this week. We’re playing a more talented, better coached Super Bowl contender and the best QB in the league going against an absolutely barren corner group… with a pass rush that may be awful. That’s a recipe for disaster.

That said, the idea that this team this week (which is the issue at hand) is largely the same roster that won 11 games last year is a bad take as well.

The team this week has no Hopkins/Chandler Jones/Alford/Ednmonds/Moore and possibly no Ertz as well. All of those guys were key pieces of the 11 win puzzle last year. And none of them have adequate/equivalent replacements in there for them this week.

Oh yeah… also no Hicks, no Phillips who contributed early last season when we built that 7-0 start as well. I guess we have Zaven to hopefully step up for Hicks.

Oh Jesus….i also forgot Watt might also be out with a calf injury. And Golden hasn’t practiced in a month and is also game-time, right?

I mean, the more I think about it, if Golden and Watt are out also? At that point, the most ridiculous thing here might be comparing the team on the field this week to anything remotely resembling the team that won 11 games last year.

Big Mad response laced with insults incoming 3… 2… 1…

Naw B, I don't have to insult ridiculousness.

I just laugh at it.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Naw B, I don't have to insult ridiculousness.

I just laugh at it.

Thanks for proving my point, insulting my take as a ridiculous… again.

To quote your namesake Krango, I’ll simply respond your lack of self-awareness within that one sentence is “Amazing! Simply amazing!”

no need to respond further. as usual, it’s clear you just want lob insults and not talk football.

Hope you’re right and I’m wrong.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Define irony: posters complaining that Keim signs injury-prone vets while also complaining that he hasn’t brought Alford back yet