Just A Reminder

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by Garthshort, Feb 4, 2020.

  1. slanidrac16

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    I kinda look at Fitz in that way. Get an additional outside threat like Lamb and Fitz becomes even more valuable.
     
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    I like a trade down and adding picks for the Lamb scenario.
     
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    I do to as long as Simmons, Young or Okudah are not still on the board.
     
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    In comparing Kelce and Kittle, I don't believe either were top draft picks, but I'm not sure. I am sure that others do know.
     
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    100% agree.

    Modern day NFL, tight ends are the pieces needed to thrive in RPO, and quick strike offenses.

    At one point I thought the way to go against smaller defenses was a power run game, which does work, see Derrick Henry.

    But, what is even better? A tight end that can block, catch and run. They are hard to come by but if you can get one, or better two, you can create havoc.
     
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    Solar7 Also Skeptical

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    Kelce round 3, Kittle round 5. Gronkowski round 2.
     
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    Not as good as getting Brady in Round Six, but not bad. Luck happens.
     
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    It sure did after game 4 lol. Lots of 11 & 12 personnel & running the ball more. I think KK is smart enough to realize those sets work in the NFL & he can get so creative out of them with many different formations. When we do get a true #1 WR he will probably be about 50-50 between 10 & 11\12 personnel. Definitely more 10 personnel than any other NFL team but not abandoning the TE.
     
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    I've been saying that ever since all the #1 WR & Larry resigning talk began. Things will open up underneath for him with defensive attention elsewhere. He is still a problem for LB's & can make all the difficult catches in traffic. I like Jeudy better though but KM is familiar with Lamb. Either way is fine. I just look at the numbers Jeudy put up against SEC defenses as opposed to the crappy ones in the Big 12 Lamb played against.
     
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    Young will be gone as soon as Goodell steps to the podium the 2nd time lol.
     
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    Plus the fact KK realized how much he can do with TE's this season. He even said they took some plays from the Ravens playbook. He has a great offensive mind, watch & see how many different formations & plays he comes up with using the TE's next season. He's probably been drawing up new stuff ever since the season ended. There's a reason his offenses averaged 40-50 points/game at TT. I know the Big 12 isn't known for quality defense but he knows how to draw plays up & scheme. Having a season under his belt in the NFL now & seeing what does & doesn't work, he will continue to adapt. I can't wait till the FA period & draft in the next 2 months.
     
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    Well it did and it didn't. He went to more 11 and 12 personnel groups but the TE was not a target in the passing game. They were mainly used as blockers for the run game and pass protection. The TEs we are talking about here are caught 50-70 passes or more. Look at Ertz in 2018 who had over 100 catches alone. Our entire group of TEs caught 40 passes. That is what I am saying, the TE in Klingsbury offense is not a big production position in the passing game.
     
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    Maybe not a lot of receptions from the TE but he will keep using them & do some creative things imo. If we signed one like Ertz or Hooper.........? He would almost have to find ways to get them receptions. Personally I love the 12 personnel sets, two TE's blocking or making the defense think so, then releasing down the seam behind LB's.
     
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    Refresh this old guy's memory - were Kelce, Kittle or Gronk Top 8 players? Or were they drafted later by a savvy GM?

    My point - sometimes uncovering a diamond in the rough has less to do with early 1st round decision-making and more with competant scout-to-prospect evaluation.
     

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