Josh Childress (info and other stuff)

[mojorizen7]

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6'8" 215
Career stats in 4 NBA seasons with the Atlanta Hawks:
31:18 minutes avg
11.1 points/gm
5.6 rebounds/gm(2.2 offensive)
1.9 assist/gm
1.0 steals/gm
52.2 FG%
38.1 3PT FG% making 93/258 attempts
79.9 FT%
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3823/career;_ylt=AunaAmny0gZmXrTinlpmoSGkvLYF
A DUNK

An interview after leaving the NBA for Greece

More highlights...more dunks unfortunately....he likes to dunk on Euros i guess


More general info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Childress

 

[Folster]

I like that third video. I'm disappointed to see that Childress is largely a two-foot leaper much like Jason Richardson. Truly great athletes can jump off of one foot or both feet. Being able to jump off one foot allows an athlete to jump further and higher believe it or not (just watch olympic long-jumpers and high-jumpers). In basketball it allows them to take off further away from the hoop, jump away from their opponent, and travel more distance while in the air. I remember one offseason when Richardson was with the Warriors, he was trying to learn to jump off of one foot. I don't think it was a success considering he never does. I really do think that being solely a two-foot jumper prevented Richardson form becoming an elite player. All of the other tools are certainly there.

 

[AfroSuns]

He would be a nice pick up, with the accolades the Suns bench garnered past season, he wont mind coming off the bench.
He must be growing that hair to cover those ears and brother needs to do something about those teeth , Of course all irrelevant as long as he bring serious skills off the bench.

 

[Gaddabout]

Our FO is obsessed with Stanford, I think.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

his shooting stroke is ugly. a little marion-esque, though not quite as bad.

 

[SweetD]

Childress will be coming off the bench unless we move JRich I for one would like to keep JRich unless he can be delt for an All-Star PF

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Childress will be coming off the bench unless we move JRich I for one would like to keep JRich unless he can be delt for an All-Star PF

for an all-star PF??? guys, you gotta be realistic. we're talking about a shooting guard that averaged, what, 15pts/game last year?

 

[AzStevenCal]

for an all-star PF??? guys, you gotta be realistic. we're talking about a shooting guard that averaged, what, 15pts/game last year?

All star might be a bit much but Jason's contract might make him even more interesting to the right team.

Steve

 

[Covert Rain]

for an all-star PF??? guys, you gotta be realistic. we're talking about a shooting guard that averaged, what, 15pts/game last year?

Your talking about a SG who could put up well over 20 a night if he was the first option. We have seen him drop 30+ when he is hot. He is not the first option and still finds a way to get 15 per night.

You should be able to get something for JRich. He is not a scrub. JRich is in that next tier of SG's under Kobe & Wade IMO.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

All star might be a bit much but Jason's contract might make him even more interesting to the right team.

Steve

good point. forgot about his expiring.

 

[mojorizen7]

I heard a SUNS fan on another board claim that Childress was Marion without the athletisicm. I had to scratch my head with that analogy.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Your talking about a SG who could put up well over 20 a night if he was the first option. We have seen him drop 30+ when he is hot. He is not the first option and still finds a way to get 15 per night.

You should be able to get something for JRich. He is not a scrub. JRich is in that next tier of SG's under Kobe & Wade IMO.

"well over 20 a night???"

you're just using exaggeration to try to make a point. his highest average was 23pts/game and that was 5 years ago. he's only averaged in excess of 20pts/game 3 times in his 10 year career. most of which was spent with teams that desperately needed his scoring. he averages 18.3pts/game for his career (15/game last year).

and i don't place him in the tier below kobe and wade. i think he's two tiers below those guys (and perhaps even 3 in terms of just straight talent). between him and them is jj, brandon roy, ginobili, and curry at a minimum. and he may even already be behind tyreke evans, oj mayo, and michael redd (if healthy), though i can make a better argument for jrich among those guys, though certainly not in terms of trading value (oj and tyreke would be MUCH more valuable and redd likely less valuable).

 

[Gaddabout]

Richardson is a weak perimeter defender with a history of knee problems and below-average ball handling skills for a 2. At this point he's a small 3 even though he'll never rebound like a forward.

He can score. That's his defining attribute. That, and he's a decent guy in the locker room. He's better than dog meat, but his expiring contract is going to be far more appealing to anyone than his talent.

Childress is a tweener wing player who will fit in the rotation. He's not super athletic, but he is long and a pretty smart player. He doesn't have great handles or a jump shot, but his shot selection is superb. He'll work hard on defense and use angles and his length to his advantage. He'll grab a few rebounds. Really valuable off the bench, but will never be a starting 2 or 3.

 

[Covert Rain]

"well over 20 a night???"

you're just using exaggeration to try to make a point. his highest average was 23pts/game and that was 5 years ago. he's only averaged in excess of 20pts/game 3 times in his 10 year career. most of which was spent with teams that desperately needed his scoring. he averages 18.3pts/game for his career (15/game last year).

and i don't place him in the tier below kobe and wade. i think he's two tiers below those guys (and perhaps even 3 in terms of just straight talent). between him and them is jj, brandon roy, ginobili, and curry at a minimum. and he may even already be behind tyreke evans, oj mayo, and michael redd (if healthy), though i can make a better argument for jrich among those guys, though certainly not in terms of trading value (oj and tyreke would be MUCH more valuable and redd likely less valuable).

Maybe I should not have said well over 20 PPG it would be more though on a team where he was a primary option. My point still stands that the Suns rarely run plays to JRich. In the right system he could easily score 20+ points per night.

And I place JRich above many of the guys you mentioned because some of those guys are just pure jump shooters. JRich can still jump out of the gym, play above the rim, rebound and post up smaller guards. Some of the players you mentioned above can't do all the things he can. At one point in the season all the analysts were saying that he was playing as well as any SG in the league and that is not even counting what he did in the playoffs.

It's just my opinion but he is definitely in that 2nd tier and I think to a certain extent the way we use him limits what he can really do. People put alot of credit on what Amare was doing to our success last year. I say JRich was a huge part of that run and definitely just as important as any player on the court during the playoffs.

I am not saying you can get Tim Ducan for him but if the Suns were to get a scrub or bench player in return it only points to how badly run this front office is.

 

[Chaplin]

Richardson is a weak perimeter defender with a history of knee problems and below-average ball handling skills for a 2. At this point he's a small 3 even though he'll never rebound like a forward.

He can score. That's his defining attribute. That, and he's a decent guy in the locker room. He's better than dog meat, but his expiring contract is going to be far more appealing to anyone than his talent.

Childress is a tweener wing player who will fit in the rotation. He's not super athletic, but he is long and a pretty smart player. He doesn't have great handles or a jump shot, but his shot selection is superb. He'll work hard on defense and use angles and his length to his advantage. He'll grab a few rebounds. Really valuable off the bench, but will never be a starting 2 or 3.

I think you're wrong. Even with Amare on the team, JRich is one of our best rebounders, certainly one of the better rebounders at the 2 in the entire league.

 

[Gaddabout]

I think you're wrong. Even with Amare on the team, JRich is one of our best rebounders, certainly one of the better rebounders at the 2 in the entire league.

He is a good rebounding 2. Averages more than 5 a game. But as a defender he needs to be at the 3, but he's not going to suddenly average 6+ rebounds a game there. He'll still average about 5.5 because he no longer spends time in the paint ... he's a 3-point shooter from the corner almost exclusively.

 

[Sunburn]

I honestly think you could get Al Jefferson for J Rich, especially considering his contract and what JR did in the playoffs last season. He's athletic, fan friendly, a good locker room guy, and lights out from 3. Minnesota is actively shopping Jefferson for a 2. I think it's a perfect fit.

 

[Chaplin]

He is a good rebounding 2. Averages more than 5 a game. But as a defender he needs to be at the 3, but he's not going to suddenly average 6+ rebounds a game there. He'll still average about 5.5 because he no longer spends time in the paint ... he's a 3-point shooter from the corner almost exclusively.

Why does he "need" to be at the 3 as a defender? He's 6'6", a good size for a defender at the 2.

 

[Gaddabout]

Why does he "need" to be at the 3 as a defender? He's 6'6", a good size for a defender at the 2.

Because he's an awful perimeter defender at the 2. He has no literal quickness. At least at the 3 he can be hidden better.

 

[Covert Rain]

Because he's an awful perimeter defender at the 2. He has no literal quickness. At least at the 3 he can be hidden better.

He is a average defender if you look at his defensive PER #'s. He is not awful. He is no Nash. Not to mention his defensive #'s get a lot worse when playing SF.

I agree with Chap, you don't have to hide JRich like you do Nash.

 

[elindholm]

He has no literal quickness.

You mean he reads slowly?

 

[Gaddabout]

You mean he reads slowly?

I have no literal quickness. Richardson has no lateral quickness.

 

[Covert Rain]

Richardson has no lateral quickness.

I must have imagined JRich taking guys off the dribble using a crossover. Guys especially had touble keeping Jrich in front of them during the playoffs. Once they started respecting his outside shot, players played up on him and he was driving right by them.

 

[Chaplin]

I must have imagined JRich taking guys off the dribble using a crossover. Guys especially had touble keeping Jrich in front of them during the playoffs. Once they started respecting his outside shot, players played up on him and he was driving right by them.

+1

I seem to remember Portland and the Lakers giving us trouble not because of our perimeter defense, but because we couldn't handle their bigs.

 

[snowthedirtbub]

Sweet Fro