It’s time to end the Kingsbury Experimemt

[Dback Jon]

He’s clearly over matched and has not progressed at all

 

[FB94]

Agree

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Can't waste Kyler cheap years

 

[AZfaninMN]

Been saying it for weeks. He lied on his resumé and is in way over his head

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

The Cardinals have 11 wins if it is not for Zane Gonzales choking. We’d be singing a different tune if Gonzales had been at least competent

 

[Stout]

The Cardinals have 11 wins if it is not for Zane Gonzales choking. We’d be singing a different tune if Gonzales had been at least competent

Keim and the coaching staff wouldn't move on from him. His failures are on them.

 

[AZfaninMN]

The Cardinals have 11 wins if it is not for Zane Gonzales choking. We’d be singing a different tune if Gonzales had been at least competent

That’s not true. We won one of the games that he missed the game winner in. We would’ve tied MIA, which who knows how that would’ve ended, and we left almost 2 minutes on the clock for NE who needed that to get a game winning FG. If my aunt had a......... well you know the rest

 

[Syracusecards]

agreed. No discipline, no accountability, no leadership.

 

[Red on White]

Zane Gould is struggling

 

[AZ Native]

He’s clearly over matched and has not progressed at all

From 3 wins to 8 wins in 2 years is not progress? Sure I want to be 16-0 but... I get the KK hate but there has been progress.

 

[cardpa]

This is about Kingsbury's limitations and he has historically been a .500 coach and that's probably all he'll ever be.

 

[AZ Native]

His offense has scored points produced yards. He needs a strong DC to succeed. His offense will not do it on it's own. He has a learning curve. But most good teams have a strong DC, we do not.

 

[AZman5103]

From 3 wins to 8 wins in 2 years is not progress? Sure I want to be 16-0 but... I get the KK hate but there has been progress.

By that same logic we should have given Wilkes and Rosen more time to progress.

This roster is WAY more talented than what Wilkes had. Heck, you give Wilkes and Mccoy a rookie KM starting from day 1 instead of Bradford/Rosen and they might have won more that 5 games

 

[AZ Native]

By that same logic we should have given Wilkes and Rosen more time to progress.

This roster is WAY more talented than what Wilkes had. Heck, you give Wilkes and Mccoy a rookie KM starting from day 1 instead of Bradford/Rosen and they might have won more that 5 games

I seriously doubt it, Wilks was the worst hire we ever made. Let's just move on.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

By that same logic we should have given Wilkes and Rosen more time to progress.

This roster is WAY more talented than what Wilkes had. Heck, you give Wilkes and Mccoy a rookie KM starting from day 1 instead of Bradford/Rosen and they might have won more that 5 games

You must be a pretzel the way you stretched and twisted that logic...

 

[jmt]

From 3 wins to 8 wins in 2 years is not progress? Sure I want to be 16-0 but... I get the KK hate but there has been progress.

I agree KK has his faults but this team is showing progress. We don't have the horses yet.

 

[AZman5103]

You must be a pretzel the way you stretched and twisted that logic...

No I don't think so. With Wilkes, our logic was that we won 3 games, but it was so obvious during the season that it was going nowhere and we needed to change. Even with Bradford, Rosen and an overall much less talented roster.

My point is that we have now sat through 2 seasons of Kliff...and it's just as obvious it's going nowhere. He has a pro bowl QB, the best WR in the nfl, and a more talented roster...and he still can't coach us to a win. We lose games because of our coaching and game management. We haven't won a game because of Kliff in his entire time here.

If we were willing to give Wilkes trash and then bail after a year, we should be willing to bail on Kliff after 2 years of a pretty talented roster.

 

[Krusher kardinals]

From 3 wins to 8 wins in 2 years is not progress? Sure I want to be 16-0 but... I get the KK hate but there has been progress.

No
watch the game!!!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

No I don't think so. With Wilkes, our logic was that we won 3 games, but it was so obvious during the season that it was going nowhere and we needed to change. Even with Bradford, Rosen and an overall much less talented roster.

My point is that we have now sat through 2 seasons of Kliff...and it's just as obvious it's going nowhere. He has a pro bowl QB, the best WR in the nfl, and a more talented roster...and he still can't coach us to a win. We lose games because of our coaching and game management. We haven't won a game because of Kliff in his entire time here.

If we were willing to give Wilkes trash and then bail after a year, we should be willing to bail on Kliff after 2 years of a pretty talented roster.

We still have a shot at the playoffs. How is that going nowhere? Dear lord.

 

[AZ Native]

No
watch the game!!!

I have watched every Cardinals' game since they moved here in '98. How about you?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

No
watch the game!!!

Yes. Most of us watched the game and some can even see progress from when we had the first overall pick in our team's putrid history. Think about how bad we have been for so long, and we never managed to have the #1 overall pick.

The game made me more angry than I have all year, but that doesn't discount the rest of the year.

 

[iLLmatiC]

We still have a shot at the playoffs. How is that going nowhere? Dear lord.

Could easily have a lock on a playoff spot if not losing to teams we should've beat.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Could easily have a lock on a playoff spot if not losing to teams we should've beat.

Could still be in the same position if we didn't beat teams we weren't supposed to beat too. (SF Week 1, Seattle, Buffalo)

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

His offense has scored points produced yards. He needs a strong DC to succeed. His offense will not do it on it's own. He has a learning curve. But most good teams have a strong DC, we do not.

What did his offense produce today?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I agree KK has his faults but this team is showing progress. We don't have the horses yet.

We really haven’t shown progress in 7 weeks.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

We really haven’t shown progress in 7 weeks.

He's gonna get another year no matter what us fans think or how the season ends. Let's just hope we continue to have more wins next year than last.