Injury Updates????

[TheCardFan]

Nolen tore his ACL?

Confirmed or speculation?

 

[kerouac9]

Confirmed or speculation?

Pretty sure that’s speculation. At least right now. Any knee injury right now would land a player on IR

 

[PDXChris]

Confirmed or speculation?

Reports are an ACL injury. I am assuming tear based on that and Nolans own instgeam post.

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[Adrian]

Arizona Cardinals CB Garrett Williams to go on IR with Achilles injury

Williams' Achilles injury ends his season with a second IR trip this year.

cardswire.usatoday.com

 

[Dr. Jones]

Move training camp back to flag. Stop ripping up the playing field for a month on a daily basis before games begin

That will cost Bidwill revenue. #DENIED

Is it wrong that I am happy Nolen suffered an ACL instead of the Achilles I first thought it to be?

Literally mother eff this team. I hate Bidwill almost more than I hated Sarver.

 

[PDXChris]

I wonder why we keep getting injuries! But JG got to hire his buddies!

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[oaken1]

I wonder why we keep getting injuries! But JG got to hire his buddies!

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The idea that we are modeling our organization after New England shines pretty clear in those rankings

 

[RON_IN_OC]

That will cost Bidwill revenue. #DENIED

Is it wrong that I am happy Nolen suffered an ACL instead of the Achilles I first thought it to be?

Literally mother eff this team. I hate Bidwill almost more than I hated Sarver.

That's a weird take. An Achilles can heal a lot faster than an ACL. He may miss most/all 2026 if it's an ACL, but could be back in 6 months (camp) with an Achilles.

 

[Russ Smith]

That's a weird take. An Achilles can heal a lot faster than an ACL. He may miss most/all 2026 if it's an ACL, but could be back in 6 months (camp) with an Achilles.

I kind of felt the same way. Achilles are no a 6 month recovery and especially not if you're over 300 pounds. Per google average return time for an NFL player is 340 days or 11 months.

the thing is I think there's much more history of guys coming back from an ACL these days and still being really good than there are achilles?

 

[DVontel]

Ar’Darius Washington tore his Achilles in May of this year & still came back in November.

Achilles heals faster than an ACL, but wouldn’t an Achilles affect a players’ explosiveness more compared to an ACL?

 

[Russ Smith]

Ar’Darius Washington tore his Achilles in May of this year & still came back in November.

Achilles heals faster than an ACL, but wouldn’t an Achilles affect a players’ explosiveness more compared to an ACL?

I think part of the average is that most guys get hurt during the season. So if a guy gets hurt in May in offseason yeah he can probably come back faster. If you get hurt during the year 6 months is the offseason.

ACL's are a pretty high likelihood of coming back strong these days.

Better just not getting hurt at all but we don't have any luck but bad luck

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think part of the average is that most guys get hurt during the season. So if a guy gets hurt in May in offseason yeah he can probably come back faster. If you get hurt during the year 6 months is the offseason.

ACL's are a pretty high likelihood of coming back strong these days.

Better just not getting hurt at all but we don't have any luck but bad luck

Thing with ACL’s are that guys can usually come back but they’re really only 100% back the season AFTER they get back from the injury.

 

[Dr. Jones]

That's a weird take. An Achilles can heal a lot faster than an ACL. He may miss most/all 2026 if it's an ACL, but could be back in 6 months (camp) with an Achilles.

I kind of felt the same way. Achilles are no a 6 month recovery and especially not if you're over 300 pounds. Per google average return time for an NFL player is 340 days or 11 months.

the thing is I think there's much more history of guys coming back from an ACL these days and still being really good than there are achilles?

An Achilles for a D-Lineman is almost a death sentence. Your "get off" will never be the same again on that foot. ACL's can take a bit longer, but once recovered, your athleticism is almost untouched.

Plus the strain put on an interior lineman's calves and Achilles tendon during interior run defense is insane. Imagine the force exerted on those joints and tendons "after" get off when they are forced to anchor in to the ground. Now imagine the double teams.

This is huge for Nolan's long-term outlook. 26/27 will be a recovery year regardless IMO.

 

[Russ Smith]

Thing with ACL’s are that guys can usually come back but they’re really only 100% back the season AFTER they get back from the injury.

Probably true. I googled it google says % coming back is higher for ACL but that you might not come back 100% so basically what you said.

I think for me it's also my own experience in PT, people rehabbing achilles seemed worse than people rehabbing ACL

 

[PDXChris]

An Achilles for a D-Lineman is almost a death sentence.

Not anymore. Terrell Suggs came back in 6 months. Harold Landry tore his achilles and ACL in preseason and missed that season and came back to get 10.5 sacks.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

That will cost Bidwill revenue. #DENIED

Is it wrong that I am happy Nolen suffered an ACL instead of the Achilles I first thought it to be?

Literally mother eff this team. I hate Bidwill almost more than I hated Sarver.

I asked AI which stadium has the most player injuries occur in them

Based on data from a five-season analysis,
State Farm Stadium
in Arizona (home of the Cardinals) has the highest rate of player injuries per game, followed closely by
MetLife Stadium
in New Jersey.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

That will cost Bidwill revenue. #DENIED

Is it wrong that I am happy Nolen suffered an ACL instead of the Achilles I first thought it to be?

Literally mother eff this team. I hate Bidwill almost more than I hated Sarver.

Maybe. If it weren't the same knee he just injured weeks prior, I'd probably agree with you.

 

[Shane]

I asked AI which stadium has the most player injuries occur in them

Based on data from a five-season analysis,
State Farm Stadium
in Arizona (home of the Cardinals) has the highest rate of player injuries per game, followed closely by
MetLife Stadium
in New Jersey.

https://www.givemesport.com/nfl-fields-caused-most-injuries/

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

https://www.givemesport.com/nfl-fields-caused-most-injuries/

Those are low. Here is BetMGM from this year

https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/nfl/the-most-injury-prone-nfl-fields/#:~:text=This%20could%20have%20been%20influenced,an%20edge%20when%20placing%20bets.44

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[Weenus O'Baggins]

Mind you that is January of 2025 data It's going to blow up more this year.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

The only grass field in the top 5 because we tear up the turf.

 

[Shane]

The only grass field in the top 5 because we tear up the turf.

Ehhh that’s a reach. As you can see by the article i posted from 2024 we weren’t even in the top 5. Youre just clutching at this years numbers. We’ve been doing it since BA got here and I don’t recall during the BA years injuries being as big of a deal as they are during the Gannon years. Thats some recency bias based on a recent trend. I’m betting long term numbers year over year Since BA took Flag away that we don’t lead the league or even in the top 5. But I’m not willing to go back and research it that in depth. Grass will always be better than turf to play on. I remember there used to be a poll during the years BA was here too, and they would vote that State Farm was voted the number one field that players wanted to play on.

 

[kerouac9]

I asked AI which stadium has the most player injuries occur in them

Based on data from a five-season analysis,
State Farm Stadium
in Arizona (home of the Cardinals) has the highest rate of player injuries per game, followed closely by
MetLife Stadium
in New Jersey.

So almost certainly wrong then

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

So almost certainly wrong then

No I found the article it was referencing and posted it.

Pretty sure the gambling site knows this data

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Ehhh that’s a reach. As you can see by the article i posted from 2024 we weren’t even in the top 5. Youre just clutching at this years numbers. We’ve been doing it since BA got here and I don’t recall during the BA years injuries being as big of a deal as they are during the Gannon years. Thats some recency bias based on a recent trend. I’m betting long term numbers year over year Since BA took Flag away that we don’t lead the league or even in the top 5. But I’m not willing to go back and research it that in depth. Grass will always be better than turf to play on. I remember there used to be a poll during the years BA was here too, and they would vote that State Farm was voted the number one field that players wanted to play on.

5 year study not including this year. You aren't even reading the article