I'm on board with Reese at 3

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That's if the Jets don't take him at 2, which I think is a real possibility.

Matt Patricia, OSU's DC, has said privately that if they just played Reese at edge all year he could have led the nation in sacks, or been right there.

But he was so good and versatile that they played him other roles to best suit the defense, which was the best in the country. Being versatile is not a bad thing. Play him in one role on early downs, get after the QB on others.

The NFL is going to listen to what Patricia has to say with all his excellence as a DC.

Bailey is a great prospect and a pass rusher only. The Cards have that guy in Sweat. Reese is the better prospect with a much higher ceiling and a better fit.

Hes not an Isaiah Simmons at all. Hes closer to a Parsons.

My first choice is still probably Love but Reese is the better pick for the Cards.

A lot of this info is coming from a former OSU NFL linebacker I saw today.

Waiting for the OSU homer remarks even though I've been hesitant to call for Reese and have made known my thoughts on Styles.
 

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That's if the Jets don't take him at 2, which I think is a real possibility.

Matt Patricia, OSU's DC, has said privately that if they just played Reese at edge all year he could have led the nation in sacks, or been right there.

But he was so good and versatile that they played him other roles to best suit the defense, which was the best in the country. Being versatile is not a bad thing. Play him in one role on early downs, get after the QB on others.

The NFL is going to listen to what Patricia has to say with all his excellence as a DC.

Bailey is a great prospect and a pass rusher only. The Cards have that guy in Sweat. Reese is the better prospect with a much higher ceiling and a better fit.

Hes not an Isaiah Simmons at all. Hes closer to a Parsons.

My first choice is still probably Love but Reese is the better pick for the Cards.

A lot of this info is coming from a former OSU NFL linebacker I saw today.

Waiting for the OSU homer remarks even though I've been hesitant to call for Reese and have made known my thoughts on Styles.
I'd love for your friends' scouting report on Reese. I'm not a draft Reese guy, but I'm also not opposed to him.
 

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That's if the Jets don't take him at 2, which I think is a real possibility.

Matt Patricia, OSU's DC, has said privately that if they just played Reese at edge all year he could have led the nation in sacks, or been right there.

But he was so good and versatile that they played him other roles to best suit the defense, which was the best in the country. Being versatile is not a bad thing. Play him in one role on early downs, get after the QB on others.

The NFL is going to listen to what Patricia has to say with all his excellence as a DC.

Bailey is a great prospect and a pass rusher only. The Cards have that guy in Sweat. Reese is the better prospect with a much higher ceiling and a better fit.

Hes not an Isaiah Simmons at all. Hes closer to a Parsons.

My first choice is still probably Love but Reese is the better pick for the Cards.

A lot of this info is coming from a former OSU NFL linebacker I saw today.

Waiting for the OSU homer remarks even though I've been hesitant to call for Reese and have made known my thoughts on Styles.
Don’t blame you…then get Simpson and a barber or notthwestern kid…bidwill will want Simpson for sure to give the fans a reason to come out
 

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I just don't see the Edge thing yet but I guess we'll see. If you watch his highlights he had 6.5 sacks this year, 2 of those were plays where he's basically unblocked the scheme confused the OL 2 guys took the pass rusher and he came in unblocked for a sack. So a full third of his sacks.

I don't see him just beating guys I know he's fast as hell just don't think he's a guy that was going to lead the country in sacks at Edge.
 

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Reese scares me because the Cards absolutely suck at putting players in the right position. So if Reese is a way better edge than anything else, the super dumb Cards will put him at ILB for no reason.
 

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If the Cardinals take Reese and make him a pure edge guy, I think he becomes a star. What makes Reese unique is that for his size 240-245 lbs., he is a tremendous edge setter and run defender. I don’t see Micah Parsons but instead Will Anderson if Reese meets his potential.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised that it's Reese at #3

With other former OSU players drafted by the Cards I just wonder if there's any involvement with them putting in input about Reese. Locker room guy? Character issues? Work ethic....tec
 
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If the Cardinals take Reese and make him a pure edge guy, I think he becomes a star. What makes Reese unique is that for his size 240-245 lbs., he is a tremendous edge setter and run defender. I don’t see Micah Parsons but instead Will Anderson if Reese meets his potential.
Anderson was 254 coming out. Parsons was 246.

I wouldn't be surprised that it's Reese at #3

With other former OU players drafted by the Cards I just wonder if there's any involvement with them putting in input about Reese. Locker room guy? Character issues? Work ethic....tec
I’m sure they’d say something if asked but these guys’ college and school ties are so much stronger than their pro relationships.
 

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Yes lets draft another player that has never played the position, is undersized, does nothing well at the college level, and needs to develop in order for him to be good.

What could go wrong?
Its not like we have drafted this type of player before and absolutely failed.

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Anderson was 254 coming out. Parsons was 246.


I’m sure they’d say something if asked but these guys’ college and school ties are so much stronger than their pro relationships.
Any GM asking the question has to assume a guy is biased and wants his old team mate to come play with him...
At this stage most guys are hesitant to ever say anything disparaging even about a guy they don't like..as a GM I think that hesitation, or lack of a glowing reference, is what you look for...so player reports won't get a buddy drafted. But they might stop a guy from being drafted.
 

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Anderson was 254 coming out. Parsons was 246.


I’m sure they’d say something if asked but these guys’ college and school ties are so much stronger than their pro relationships.
Anderson may have weighed 254 at the combine, but he never was close to that at Alabama. He played at around 242 for his entire career with the Crimson Tide.
 

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Yes lets draft another player that has never played the position, is undersized, does nothing well at the college level, and needs to develop in order for him to be good.

What could go wrong?
Its not like we have drafted this type of player before and absolutely failed.

Some of you truly love punishment.
I feel ya. That said, I am ok shooting for the moon because I don't care if Monti gets fired and he hasn't shown any other ability to acquire top talent.
 
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I am really having a hard time understanding why in the world would the Jets trade away their #2 pick. Everyone agrees this is a weaker draft, not many projected studs. The Jets have 2 first round picks already and 2 high 2nd round picks this year. They also have 3 (that's right 3!!!) 1st round picks already next year in a supposedly loaded draft class. So what would the benefit be of trading away a projected stud for example to Dallas for 12 & 20 actually accomplish? It doesn't make sense to me. Of course they are the Jets!!

If anything, with all those picks, I could see where they would possibly be interested in moving up into the 1st round using their #16 and 1 of their 2nds to pull a Texans and grab 2 studs. Definitely would not even consider trading out of my #2 pick when I am the richest draft owner by far the next 2 drafts. So then that leaves MO, and for some reason a lot of draft pundits are saying MO wants to move down(where there's smoke there's fire?). Now if I'm right and the jets aren't moving out of 2 and the pundits are correct in assuming their are at least a couple of teams wanting our spot, then MO BETTER get a huge haul, if he takes a trade down in this scenario and just does a trade that works out on trade charts, then he should be let go during the draft. If someone wants to really move into #3, they better bring a bag. And if it's someone way back like #12 (Dallas) it better include 12 & 20 and next years 1 just to start. Of course we are the Cardinals!!!

Please, Please, Please MO, if someone doesn't make you an offer you can't refuse, just do your job and get us a stud player. Don't overthink this. It's not rocket science, even though you are paid more than an actual rocket scientist.
 

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I am really having a hard time understanding why in the world would the Jets trade away their #2 pick. Everyone agrees this is a weaker draft, not many projected studs. The Jets have 2 first round picks already and 2 high 2nd round picks this year. They also have 3 (that's right 3!!!) 1st round picks already next year in a supposedly loaded draft class. So what would the benefit be of trading away a projected stud for example to Dallas for 12 & 20 actually accomplish? It doesn't make sense to me. Of course they are the Jets!!

If anything, with all those picks, I could see where they would possibly be interested in moving up into the 1st round using their #16 and 1 of their 2nds to pull a Texans and grab 2 studs. Definitely would not even consider trading out of my #2 pick when I am the richest draft owner by far the next 2 drafts. So then that leaves MO, and for some reason a lot of draft pundits are saying MO wants to move down(where there's smoke there's fire?). Now if I'm right and the jets aren't moving out of 2 and the pundits are correct in assuming their are at least a couple of teams wanting our spot, then MO BETTER get a huge haul, if he takes a trade down in this scenario and just does a trade that works out on trade charts, then he should be let go during the draft. If someone wants to really move into #3, they better bring a bag. And if it's someone way back like #12 (Dallas) it better include 12 & 20 and next years 1 just to start. Of course we are the Cardinals!!!

Please, Please, Please MO, if someone doesn't make you an offer you can't refuse, just do your job and get us a stud player. Don't overthink this. It's not rocket science, even though you are paid more than an actual rocket scientist.
It comes down to compensation and then how you feel about the top 12 players in the draft. If the feel at Love, Mauigoa, and Mendoza will all be gone, that would leave 9 players they would need to be interested in. If those 9 are Tate, Tyson, Reese, Bailey, Bain, Styles, Downs, Delane and McCoy and you aren't seeing a huge difference between thos eplayers based on your team's trading probably is more appealing.
 
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