Federal documents detail sweeping potential NCAA violations involving high-profile players, schools

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    You've probably seen it but in case not, Pete Thamel is reporting that Steve Alford will push hard for the Louisville job after UCLA's season is done.

    Wouldn't shock me, UCLA has a highly rated recruiting class but honestly no real impact recruits, they lose their top 2 players and probably top 3(Wilkes too likely). Alford is on the hot seat this team is good enough it shouldn't be on the NCAA bubble right now. Alford doesn't love LA and Louisville is close to home.

    I doubt he'd be the favorite but Louisville is also probably looking for a coach with a clean reputation and so far at least, Alford has not been implicated in teh FBI story at all.
     
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    Cal State Northridge response to ESPN in regards to FBI subpoena to ex-NC State and current CSUN coach Mark Gottfried: "We did our own due diligence and, as both Coach Gottfried and officials at North Carolina State have said, there are no red flags whatsoever."
     
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    That was such an odd hire. They fired Theus, he got into a scuffle with the AD or something crazy over it. And they then go out and hire a coach that was known to have a kid directly implicated in the FBI scandal. And there has been a rumor out there since the Yahoo story broke, that the reason ex UK star Bam Adebayo was on the list of kids who got paid, is that NC State used an agent to pay Adebayo through a friend, trying to get him to join Dennis Smith Jr at NC State.

    Nobody knows for sure what happened but to fire your coach in an ugly way and then go out and quickly hire a new coach who is obviously at least of interest in the FBI case is crazy. And the story shows how useless these "internal investigations" are, NC State says Gottfried is clear, now the FBI has a subpoena. USC said they were clear, no other problems, a week later Thamel implicated 2 more starters and possibly a 3rd. If you can't get access to what the FBI has, you're not getting the truth.
     
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    Also of note in the Gottfried story, ASU assistant coach Anthony Coleman is implicated in the story. The FBI asked NC State for a bunch of documents and communications and Coleman is listed in them because of his ties to Adidas at the time the Dennis Smith Jr recruitment was happening.
     
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    Auburn AD Allen Greene on Bruce Pearl: “The FBI investigation is a long process. We’re going through that process to make sure that we, as a university, are doing what it is that we’re supposed to do to comply.”
     
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    If I'm reading all this right I think ESPN's stuff from Bonaguara is wrong and Schlabach is closer to being right.

    My take is that Adidas paid Billy Preston's mom 90K to go to Kansas. THe dates are off by a year for it to be Jackson so it has to be Preston. That is presumably why Kansas didn't play Preston this year, the story was about the car he was driving I assume either they found out he got that car(from Adidas?) in a violation or he got the car using the money his mom had gotten and they suspended him. He never played and the report specifically says the payments were done with great care to conceal them from Kansas, so I assume Kansas is fine on this one.

    The 20K stuff is for an entirely different player, it's for Silvio DeSousa, he apparently was paid, or his handlers were, by Under Armour to go to Maryland. At some point he indicated he'd prefer to go to Kansas, but in order to do so, he needed Adidas to "buy him out" of the deal with Under Armour. So he got money from UA, AND money from adidas was paid to them on his behalf. And again it says they took great pains to hide it from Kansas so Kansas is presumably in the clear.

    If true, DeSousa will likely declare for the draft because he'll presumably be declared ineligible, I can't imagine the NCAA will let him pay back when he took money twice in such short order, especially since it makes it fairly clear the player knew about the payments. I don't think Kansas will get hit on this either since again the reports are pretty clear that the payments were hidden from KU.

    now yes this means in the last 2 years they have had 3 kids paid by Adidas to go to Kansas, Jackson, Preston and DeSousa. Jackson apparently was being paid by 2 different agents, his mom was, so it's quite possible he'll be retroactively declared ineligible but not clear if they'd have to vacate games. Remember when it came out Tyler Honeycutt had an agent while in college, the NCAA didn't vacate any games for him because they ruled there was no way UCLA should have known, I suspect that will be the same case with Jackson.


    There's also some innuendo that leads me to think Lonnie Walker of Miami is one of the 6 players involved in payments. and it's also looking like Bam Adebayo is one of the 6 too but in his case a family member apparently took money from Adidas to steer him to NC State, and he still wound up at Kentucky.
     
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    I just posted the link I didn't comment on it.

    I think it's clear the stories say Adidas went out of their way to conceal the payments from the schools so in that sense yes Kansas is the "victim". I also as I've said with Arizona and every other school so far involved, I don't believe for a second that Adidas or Nike are steering players to schools without the coaching staff being aware of it.

    That's why as a UCLA fan we're all waiting for the shoe to drop on Adidas and the Compton Magic programs prior connection to UCLA. We're all assuming some of those kids may have been steered and if they were, UCLA's coaches would have known.

    I think Self is a terrific coach, but I don't believe he didn't know adidas was helping him get players.

    Coaches are virtually all control freaks, they know what's going on.
     

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