Do you still have an issue with Whiz?

Are you ok with Whiz being OC too based on seasons results?

  • Yes I have an issue.

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • No I'm more than fine with current set up.

    Votes: 42 89.4%

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Shane

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Wearing two hats and being OC and HC?

I personally think he has proven he can do both jobs well and that all the early season criticisms were unwarranted.
 

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Tough question. I still don't believe it's "ideal" and I don't think Coach does either, BUT, you can't argue with success. I trust our Coach to put us in position to win the game, and that means the Super Bowl. Why is Michael Adams on the roster? Because at some point our Coach thought he might win a game for us. It doesn't matter how you get there, all that matters is that you do it. I support Coach being OC as long as he chooses to do it.

I always thought Coach Whisenhunt was smart (engineering degree and all). He also convinced me he is pretty savvy. If he pulls this off I will be convinced he is a genius when it comes to football and the men that play the game.
 
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I like that we have a coach that is in shape with all these other tubbies roaming the sideline. Shows self respect. (yes I ma a bit chubby lol)
 

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Hard to say Shane... if Whiz wasn't the OC, would he have been more aware of the potential of an on-sides kick Green Bay executed? Would he be able to help Davis make some adjustments to stop Rogers from being so damn successful??

Certainly, he has proven he can be an effective OC, but I don't know if I'm sold on the combined OC/HC role...
 

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if we still had Todd Haley we woud have scored 52 points :D. Whiz has done an outstanding job.
 

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Wearing two hats and being OC and HC?

I personally think he has proven he can do both jobs well and that all the early season criticisms were unwarranted.

Along with you I never had a problem with Whiz wearing both hats.
 

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I am VERY PLEASED with Coach Whiz'...

in MANY areas! :)He, along with Michael B., have now become the "faces" of the franchise. ...And what I see now is PROFESSIONALISM, DETERMINATION, and INTELLIGENCE to name just a few. ...and ultimately all of this will lead to continued SUCCESS! :)It's a GREAT time to be a Cardinals' fan! :)ENJOY IT FULLY, my friends! Mark in SC.:D
 

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Seems to be working fine. I remember a lot of critcism about getting plays in on time etc. I can't remember the last time we had a delay of game penalty. I know they are way down from last season when Whiz wasn't the playcaller.
 

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My only issue with Whiz is that he has not signed his 5-year extention.
 

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True that. You and I never had an issue to begin with.

With that in mind we both predicted that Todd Haley would crash and burn his first season.

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I was never against it, but I was leary. It has never worked before, but at the same time our situation was completely different then any other team before us. We had a completely different set up rom the normal HC/OC org chart. We have two guys specifically titled Passing Coordinator and Running Coordinator. Meaning our setup wasnt the normal HC/OC setup, Wiz wasnt playing the normal HC/OC role.

My biggest concern was actually the three different titles Grimm is carrying, and if he would be stretched to thin. Come to find out Grimms duties never changed he has always been those titles just never officially. Still spread thin with three duties and may be the reason why our OL always starts out really slow then reaches their potential towards the end of the year.
 
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I was never against it, but I was leary. It has never worked before,

Care to explain? There are a few coaches out there with Superbowl victories on their resume that have done it.
 

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Yes, I do. I am not "more than fine" with it. I think there was some terrible clock management at the end of the game in regulation in when and how we kicked the FG, with timeouts in our pocket, leaving time for them. I think in a HC only role he would have adjusted our ST return game when it was pretty likely GB would go onside.

That's not to say he isn't doing a phenomenal job in both roles, I'm impressed. But I'm not more than fine with it. I think details get missed because he simply can't focus on everything. It gives the other coaches a lot more autonomy, for good or bad.
 
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Yes, I do. I am not "more than fine" with it. I think there was some terrible clock management at the end of the game in regulation in when and how we kicked the FG, with timeouts in our pocket, leaving time for them. I think in a HC only role he would have adjusted our ST return game when it was pretty likely GB would go onside.

That's not to say he isn't doing a phenomenal job in both roles, I'm impressed. But I'm not more than fine with it. I think details get missed because he simply can't focus on everything. It gives the other coaches a lot more autonomy, for good or bad.

Are you saying that details don't get missed on teams where they have both a HC and OC?

Because I'm here to assure you that they do. Saying that the onside kick wouldn't have happened is pure conjecture. I have seen surprise onside kicks work against good teams who have an OC and HC.

Also the clock management at the end of the game wasn't a HC issue. It was a Larry Fitzgerald screwing up issue.
 

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Why would anyone have issues with the Wiz? Let's see, first year 8-8. Then second year 9-7 super bowl run. And here we are in the playoffs, with 1 win in the file! Oh, yes that last game against the same Packers. I can't even remember it.

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Whiz has done a remarkable job handling both the OC & HC roles, but I really don't expect him to do it next year. Seeing that we had a shorter offseason last year, he didn't have time to search for the ideal replacement for Haley. I'm sure he's got a much better sense of who's available out there now & don't be surprised if he hires an OC this offseason. I for one would like to see him do that so that he can put 100% of his time into the HC role.
 

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Care to explain? There are a few coaches out there with Superbowl victories on their resume that have done it.

Did they have both duties in the same year?

It would still be the anamoly, not the standard.
 

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Did they have both duties in the same year?

It would still be the anamoly, not the standard.

I think it takes a very intelligent coach to be able to handle both at the same time. That is why I had no problems with Whiz attempting it. Every time I listen to him talk I can't help thinking to myself "Man that guy is sharp!"
 

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While I won't say that all the early season criticism's were unwarranted, I feel that he has done an exceptional job of being both OC and HC. I would still prefer that he find a trusted play caller so that he could just be HC. That would be the best of both worlds in my estimation.

I know he gets great enjoyment out of playcalling, and must love the challenge of coming up with something that the opposing defense cannot possibly expect. My hat is off to him and to anyone who can wear both hats------because that is extremely hard to do. I still feel that it detracts from his ability to monitor the entire game, and thus might make it harder for him to make adjustments than it would if he had more free time to see the little things that might make a difference in whether or not he calls for a change in scheme etc. I also feel that it will make him an old man much sooner than he would if he had someone he trusted to call plays for him. Every person has just so much to give. By performing both jobs, he is burning more out of his tank than if he just had the HC duties to worry about.
 

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I have an issue with Whisenhunt but it isn't the offense. After 3 seasons the Cards still can't hold a lead no matter how large.

I'm too old for that kind of stuff. If it keeps up I'll have to buy more life insurance.
 
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