Discipline has Plagued Kingsbury

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  1. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    If your contention is that being the most penalized team in the league isn’t a reflection of coaching I don’t know what to tell you other than you’re wrong you see it time again with coaching regime changes.
     
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    football karma Happy in the pretense of knowledge

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    interesting thing on the penalties:

    two specific kinds were the outliers:

    false starts on offense

    pass interference on defense

    if each of the above were average for league, the Cards would have been in the middle of the pack
     
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    Two fg’s made and the lucky catch doesn’t happen...9-7 and playoffs.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    A whole lotta if my aunt had nuts she’d be my uncle going on ‘round these parts.
     
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    Update, I just read an article in the NYT that over 100 arenas, stadiums etc, across the country are to be used as mass vaccination sites, kind of dilutes Mike's generosity.
     
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    This has been one of my biggest complaints about KK. Zero discipline and no accountability.
     
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    One of my biggest reasons for wanting to keep Kingsbury is that the people on here calling for his head were the same ones saying to get rid of Warner, Bowles and Arians while crying about getting rid of Wilks and Rosen and drafting Murray.
     
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    My old mind tricks me sometimes but didn’t the second miss come after a coaching decision not to go for it on 4th and very short. Seems to me the running game thread on this site had numerous people urging him to go instead of depending on what had become an unreliable kicker. I call that coach’s decision, not just kicker error. In fact I think KK had just told us he was confident with this kicker.
     
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    This isn’t Arians. KK has never thrown anybody under the bus and I don’t expect that to change. Does that make him bad or lead to a lack of discipline? IDK. Honestly I remember something about we should have gone for it on 4th down. I even question many times we went for it, made it and I disagreed with him.
    The two fg’s I was referring to was the 49 yarder that somehow came up short and the clear cut miss in the other game.
    However, we are two years in on this plan. I was screaming for Wilks to be fired 3 games in. This club has improved inspire the shortcomings of this roster. We’re getting closer but until we have a complete roster I don’t think it’s quite fair to come to the conclusion that Kingsbury is a failure.
     
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    Agree with u but the next year he has to make some improvements on his game planning and expecially game management, otherwise the coaching staff is in dire straits
    BTW The penalties and lack of discipline are more on kugler (false starts) and Vance Joseph(interference, encroachment, offside)
     
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    No doubt.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Not this one
     
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    Stout Hold onto the ball, Murray!

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    I call balderdash. Even if it's on them, KK as the HC needs to insist on this being corrected and take whatever steps necessary to see this happen. I don't think it's in him to do it. The fact that it never got better over an entire season speaks to the level of priority it was to the entire coaching staff.
     
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