Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by JohnnyCakes, Feb 23, 2021.
I know of no examples. Do you?
yeah... I’ve never heard of this.
I don’t think most guys want to wait months on end to get their next contract money either. Anything can happen any day that could kill a wink wink deal and the player would have to miss all of mini-camp if they aren’t signed until after the 1st. And any wink wink we’ll sign you... in three months deal probably is against the rules in the NFL also for trying to circumvent the salary cap.
Player: 'You winked at me!"
GM: "Nah, had something in my eye."
Here you go...Specifically talks about releasing a player in the Spring, but designating as a June 1st cut, to allow the player catch on with another team early.
https://www.profootballrumors.com/2...t-June,of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Here's an article written by an agent...talking about closed door meetings with teams at the Combine, to start discussing his FA's...
this article talks about how it’s beneficial for a player cut so he can get on another team and how it helps a team spread the cap hit, but it shows that the team doing the cutting is still hamstrung by a lower cap until June 1st at the beginning of FA.
it also gives no example of the wink wink deals that would be needed to agree to terms with a player who would then need to wait until June to be part of the team or receive any payment.
this article doesn’t speak at all to the issue at hand as far as June 1st and having secret deals in place that would only get finalized after that date. It only talks about the dealings going on prior to FA starting. No one’s arguing that there isn’t negotiating going on before FA. We’re asking for examples of sought after FAs waiting to sign for months AFTER FA has started so a team could get a better hold of their cap room post June 1st cuts.
also he is more info on June 1 cuts.
https://overthecap.com/explaining-t...gnate up,cut for cap purposes prior to June 1.
wow-- Mic drop!!!
See Cheesebeef - post 22.
This has nothing to do with June designation and use of cap space.
you and cheesebeef tend to think your word is Gospel dont you.... lol.
It has everything to do with the fact that agents have secret meetings and deals in place, way before FA starts...To think they don't have wink/nod deals in place is silly. Of course they do. Even without the combine this year, it's still happening.
So, you can cut early and designate for June 1st...and you can negotiate with a player/FA way before hand and have deals in place that are made "official" when appropriate for team and player.
No. The gospel is the clearly written rules regarding June 1 cuts.
What part of a team has to be compliant with the cap at all times don't you understand?
I fail to see what you seem to see as an advantage when the cap savings can't be applied until after June 1.
The negotiations going on now involve signatures when the league season opens and are not contingent on available cap space post June 1.
I'm hard pressed to believe that any agent/player in demand would wait on this type of legally meaningless "wink" .
again, no one is disputing wink wink deals BEFORE FA. We’re talking about wink wink deals when the money is there for the taking DURING FA and players holding off on signing big money deals at the beginning of FA and taking the risk of waiting for three months when anything can happen to kill that deal and taking that leap of faith to help your future team.
I’ve yet to see an example where a big time FA takes the risk and doesn’t go for the money immediately instead of some secret deal that won’t take place until months later.
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