Devin Booker = Franchise Player?

[sunsfan88]

Frye, dragic, green and Morris ALL said something about the Suns' player management; that is unusual.

Maybe mcd was just cleaning house, so what happened with these guys is largely irrelevant, but given that we have undoubtedly taken a reputation hit as an organisation - enabled via their numerous post-trade comments in the media - and that mcd that has a long was to go to prove his all-round competence, it's nonsense to ignore - completely - the view that the suns don't know how to treat guys.

Yeah, where there is smoke, there is fire. It's the same theme, and some of those guys are just not trouble-makers.

Its just the way it works. Fans almost always side with the team and the front office rather than the players. Any time a player bad mouths the front office, the fans turn against that player. It happens basically in every sport and every team. Of course its not fair but that's just how it works because fans are fans of the team, not just individual players.

Its also part of the reason why during league lockouts, the fans always take the owners side and never the players.

In my opinion, even if Booker were to say something bad tomorrow about McD or Sarver or whoever, vast majority (if not even more) of Suns would bash him and immediately side with McD or Sarver.

Regardless of whether you believe in the stuff the former Suns players say about the team or not, it further taints the organization's perception and reputation which wasn't great to begin with.

 

[Phrazbit]

Its just the way it works. Fans almost always side with the team and the front office rather than the players. Any time a player bad mouths the front office, the fans turn against that player. It happens basically in every sport and every team. Of course its not fair but that's just how it works because fans are fans of the team, not just individual players.

Its also part of the reason why during league lockouts, the fans always take the owners side and never the players.

In my opinion, even if Booker were to say something bad tomorrow about McD or Sarver or whoever, vast majority (if not even more) of Suns would bash him and immediately side with McD or Sarver.

Regardless of whether you believe in the stuff the former Suns players say about the team or not, it further taints the organization's perception and reputation which wasn't great to begin with.

lol, this is clearly directed at me.

You took my ripping of the team over their moves in 2012/13 as evidence that I was a troll. Any member of the larger forum community here can attest that I am no base homer. I killed the Cardinals during the final years of the Graves Whiz era, especially over the Kolb fiasco, I killed the Dbacks over Towers and I made long long rants concerning the idiocy of the Suns during the Lance Blanks era.

I call em like I see em.

 

[JCSunsfan]

lol, this is clearly directed at me.

You took my ripping of the team over their moves in 2012/13 as evidence that I was a troll. Any member of the larger forum community here can attest that I am no base homer. I killed the Cardinals during the final years of the Graves Whiz era, especially over the Kolb fiasco, I killed the Dbacks over Towers and I made long long rants concerning the idiocy of the Suns during the Lance Blanks era.

I call em like I see em.

You were a troll then.

 

[Phrazbit]

You were a troll then.

By the midway point of the 2013 most of the board had hopped with my "troll" ideals.

I was just ahead of the curve.

 

[sunsfan88]

My posts aren't directed at any one person, if it is then the post would address that person's username or I'd quote them.

As for siding with the front office over player, I have seen it happen with numerous people everywhere.

The time it frustrated me the most was when as a Charger fan, LT (greatest player in team history) left the Chargers to sign with NYJ and had some words to say about the dysfunction in SD (which was all true) and quite a bit of fans immediately turned on him.

When Nash asked to be traded to the Lakers, his reputation took a hit among fans in the desert despite everything he gave for the Suns as well. Thankfully I don't think Nash actually bad mouthed the organization or anything.

 

[SirStefan32]

My posts aren't directed at any one person, if it is then the post would address that person's username or I'd quote them.

As for siding with the front office over player, I have seen it happen with numerous people everywhere.

The time it frustrated me the most was when as a Charger fan, LT (greatest player in team history) left the Chargers to sign with NYJ and had some words to say about the dysfunction in SD (which was all true) and quite a bit of fans immediately turned on him.

When Nash asked to be traded to the Lakers, his reputation took a hit among fans in the desert despite everything he gave for the Suns as well. Thankfully I don't think Nash actually bad mouthed the organization or anything.

Without commenting on fans siding with anyone, I just want to comment on Nash. It was time to rebuild, and the Suns could not start that process with Nash. I think both Nash and Sarver were class-acts in that situation. Sarver agreed to trade him where he wanted to go, and Nash publically thanked him and praised him for it. I know some fans were upset that he went to the Lakers, but I honestly don't think too many people are upset at either Nash or Sarver about that.

I do remember hearing some things about Hill being pissed off at Sarver about something, but not Nash.

 

[JCSunsfan]

My posts aren't directed at any one person, if it is then the post would address that person's username or I'd quote them.

As for siding with the front office over player, I have seen it happen with numerous people everywhere.

The time it frustrated me the most was when as a Charger fan, LT (greatest player in team history) left the Chargers to sign with NYJ and had some words to say about the dysfunction in SD (which was all true) and quite a bit of fans immediately turned on him.

When Nash asked to be traded to the Lakers, his reputation took a hit among fans in the desert despite everything he gave for the Suns as well. Thankfully I don't think Nash actually bad mouthed the organization or anything.

That was about hating the Lakers. Once you become a Laker you are hated by most Suns fans. And he was until he retired (for some it was until he was injured) and then he was beloved again. That's just the nature of being a sports fan and rivalries.

 

[Phrazbit]

It also made it easy to love Nash again when the his (and D'Antoni's) stay with the Lakers turned into an unmitigated disaster.

 

[JustWinBaby]

It also made it easy to love Nash again when the his (and D'Antoni's) stay with the Lakers turned into an unmitigated disaster.

Yeah

As soon as they both left, the Lakers became champions. Many loyal Laker fans say that the Lakers have never looked so good. They might repeat their accomplishments next season.

It is obvious to everyone that Mike and Steve were the major problems for the Laker demise, the talent was there. What Byron Scott has been able accomplish is amazing.

It really is close to the fantastic results the Suns have achieved since they no longer have had to deal with Steve and Mike.

The Knicks and the great Carmelo Anthony with PHil Jackson leading the way have won multiple rings since MDA left them as well, oh wait.

Byron Scott will undoubtedly have a shrine constructed of him in front of Staples center for turning around the disaster that both those guys created. Magic Johnson will be pictured next him with a stare of utter respect for his coaching accomplishments.

Give it a rest

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah

As soon as they both left, the Lakers became champions. Many loyal Laker fans say that the Lakers have never looked so good. They might repeat their accomplishments next season.

It is obvious to everyone that Mike and Steve were the major problems for the Laker demise, the talent was there. What Byron Scott has been able accomplish is amazing.

It really is close to the fantastic results the Suns have achieved since they no longer have had to deal with Steve and Mike.

The Knicks and the great Carmelo Anthony with PHil Jackson leading the way have won multiple rings since MDA left them as well, oh wait.

Byron Scott will undoubtedly have a shrine constructed of him in front of Staples center for turning around the disaster that both those guys created. Magic Johnson will be pictured next him with a stare of utter respect for his coaching accomplishments.

Give it a rest

lol, do have a program that alerts you when someone mentions D'Antoni's name on here?

Nash broke his leg, he was never the same, D'Antoni chased Dwight out of town and relegated Gasol to the bench. Regardless of what you think of their tenures or talent there is no questioning that their time with the Lakers was a train wreck. You might quite possibly be literally the only person (including Nash and Mike themselves I suspect) who would argue otherwise.

 

[sunsfan88]

Would be amazing to have Nash take Booker under his wing and maybe help train him from time to time. Booker can learn quite a bit from Nash's high basketball IQ

https://twitter.com/Jeramie/status/698692316760973312

 

[Mainstreet]

Devin Booker finished fourth in voting for NBA Rookie of the Year. It would seems this would put him in position to making the All-Rookie team. This is the best showing by a Suns rookie in voting since Amare Stoudemire.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...vin-booker-finishes-4th-rookie-year/84439918/

 

[Chaplin]

He got All-Rookie First Team

 

[elindholm]

He got All-Rookie First Team

Deserved.

Edit: Actually he got the third-most first-team votes, behind only Towns and Porzingis. I didn't see the breakdown of the ROY voting, but it sounds like he was third or at worst fourth for that.

 

[sunsfan88]

https://twitter.com/si_nba/status/733357650012954624

He's also the only non big man on the first team.

 

[Ronin]

Way to go Booker!

 

[95pro]

The good thing is that Booker has a higher ceiling than almost all the rookies. Maybe Towns could be a superstar and Booker a star. I don't think Porzingis will be anything more than he is now.

 

[GatorAZ]

The good thing is that Booker has a higher ceiling than almost all the rookies. Maybe Towns could be a superstar and Booker a star. I don't think Porzingis will be anything more than he is now.

You think Porzingis has reached his ceiling at 20 years old?

 

[sunsfan88]

Heck no I think Porzingis has a very high ceiling. I don't even think he's scratched the surface of what he's able to do.

And I think some of the underrated rookies like Myles Turner, Bobby Portis, Josh Richardson, Julius Randle, and Trey Lyles all have some pretty high ceilings. Even Russel.

 

[Mainstreet]

Congratulations to Devin Booker for making the All-Rookie First Team.

 

[JCSunsfan]

3rd highest vote getter. Clearly 25 voters put DAR on the first team and Booker on the second.

 

[sunsfan88]

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[Errntknght]

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whats the deal with these contentless messages? For me, clicking on them doesn't lead to anything

 

[AzStevenCal]

whats the deal with these contentless messages? For me, clicking on them doesn't lead to anything

I'm not sure what's going on for you but the article goes on to say that Paul George mentioned Russell and Randle as players he was impressed by and then added Booker's name to the group. The writer then points out that it might not mean much though as George and the 2 Lakers all share the same agent.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

A lot of people have been giving him praise. Here is a video of him getting a ton of praise from coaches and players on team USA.

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