Coryell and Warner HOF Finalists

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Big Red Great HC Don Coryell and only QB to take team to a Super Bowl Kurt Warner Finalists for HOF



Coryell's direct development of future coaches included Super Bowl head coaches Madden and Gibbs, Super Bowl offensive coordinators Ernie Zampese and Al Saunders, as well as Jim Hanifan and Rod Dowhower. Adding to the Coryell coaching tree, Super Bowl offensive coordinator Norv Turner tutored under Zampese, and another Super Bowl offensive coordinator Mike Martz studied under both Zampese and later Turner.[37] Dan Henning coached under Gibbs.
Fouts says, "He influenced offensive and defensive football because if you are going to have three or four receivers out there, you better have an answer for it on the other side of the ball. If it wasn't for Don, I wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.[38]" "Whoever heard of the nickel or dime pass defense before “Air Coryell” forced opponents to come up with strategies to combat Coryell’s aerial assault?" wrote Fouts to Hall of Fame voters in support of Coryell's induction.[39]
In Madden's Hall of Fame induction speech, he mentioned his time at San Diego State "with a great coach that someday will be in here, Don Coryell. He had a real influence on my coaching. Joe Gibbs was on that staff, too.[40]"
Gibbs also lobbied for Coryell's induction into the Hall of Fame, stating "(Coryell) was extremely creative and fostered things that are still in today's game because he was so creative. I think he's affected a lot of coaches, and I'd like to see him get in.[41] " Mike Martz, who won a Super Bowl as the offensive coordinator of the "Greatest Show on Turf" with the St. Louis Rams and advanced to another Super Bowl as the Rams' head coach: "Don is the father of the modern passing game. People talk about the 'West Coast' offense, but Don started the 'West Coast' decades ago and kept updating it. You look around the NFL now, and so many teams are running a version of the Coryell offense. Coaches have added their own touches, but it's still Coryell's offense. He has disciples all over the league. He changed the game," adds Martz.[38] "I'm not sure why that hasn't been acknowledged by the Hall of Fame.[3]"
Winslow points out that Coryell had an indirect hand in the 49ers', Washington Redskins' and St. Louis Rams' Super Bowl teams. "They call it the West Coast offense because San Francisco won Super Bowls with it, but it was a variation of what we did in San Diego. Joe Gibbs' itty-bitty receivers on the outside and two tight ends in the middle, (that's) a variation of Coryell's offense in San Diego. It's just a personnel change, but it's the same thing. When the Rams won their Super Bowl, it was the same offense, same terminology. For Don Coryell to not be in the Hall of Fame is a lack of knowledge of the voters. That's the nicest way that I can put that. A lack of understanding of the legacy of the game.[42] "
"In the offense we won the Super Bowl with in 1999, the foundation was Don Coryell," former Rams coach Dick Vermeil said. "The route philosophies, the vertical passing game ... everything stemmed from the founder, Don Coryell. The genius.[43]"
In 2010, Coryell for the first time was among the 15 finalists considered by the Hall of Fame selection committee on the Saturday before the Super Bowl. He was not selected.[44] After Coryell's passing later that year, Chargers President Dean Spanos said "He revolutionized the game of football, not only in San Diego, but throughout the entire NFL. Don Coryell was a legend not only with the Chargers but throughout San Diego. Though unfortunately he did not live long enough to see it, hopefully one day his bust will find its proper place in Pro Football’s Hall of Fame.[4]" Delivering a eulogy at Coryell's funeral, Madden noted, "You know, I'm sitting down there in front, and next to me is Joe Gibbs, and next to him is Dan Fouts, and the three of us are in the Hall of Fame because of Don Coryell." Choking up and then pausing, he continued, "There's something missing."[45]
 

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Big Red Great HC Don Coryell and only QB to take team to a Super Bowl Kurt Warner Finalists for HOF



Coryell's direct development of future coaches included Super Bowl head coaches Madden and Gibbs, Super Bowl offensive coordinators Ernie Zampese and Al Saunders, as well as Jim Hanifan and Rod Dowhower. Adding to the Coryell coaching tree, Super Bowl offensive coordinator Norv Turner tutored under Zampese, and another Super Bowl offensive coordinator Mike Martz studied under both Zampese and later Turner.[37] Dan Henning coached under Gibbs.
Fouts says, "He influenced offensive and defensive football because if you are going to have three or four receivers out there, you better have an answer for it on the other side of the ball. If it wasn't for Don, I wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.[38]" "Whoever heard of the nickel or dime pass defense before “Air Coryell” forced opponents to come up with strategies to combat Coryell’s aerial assault?" wrote Fouts to Hall of Fame voters in support of Coryell's induction.[39]
In Madden's Hall of Fame induction speech, he mentioned his time at San Diego State "with a great coach that someday will be in here, Don Coryell. He had a real influence on my coaching. Joe Gibbs was on that staff, too.[40]"
Gibbs also lobbied for Coryell's induction into the Hall of Fame, stating "(Coryell) was extremely creative and fostered things that are still in today's game because he was so creative. I think he's affected a lot of coaches, and I'd like to see him get in.[41] " Mike Martz, who won a Super Bowl as the offensive coordinator of the "Greatest Show on Turf" with the St. Louis Rams and advanced to another Super Bowl as the Rams' head coach: "Don is the father of the modern passing game. People talk about the 'West Coast' offense, but Don started the 'West Coast' decades ago and kept updating it. You look around the NFL now, and so many teams are running a version of the Coryell offense. Coaches have added their own touches, but it's still Coryell's offense. He has disciples all over the league. He changed the game," adds Martz.[38] "I'm not sure why that hasn't been acknowledged by the Hall of Fame.[3]"
Winslow points out that Coryell had an indirect hand in the 49ers', Washington Redskins' and St. Louis Rams' Super Bowl teams. "They call it the West Coast offense because San Francisco won Super Bowls with it, but it was a variation of what we did in San Diego. Joe Gibbs' itty-bitty receivers on the outside and two tight ends in the middle, (that's) a variation of Coryell's offense in San Diego. It's just a personnel change, but it's the same thing. When the Rams won their Super Bowl, it was the same offense, same terminology. For Don Coryell to not be in the Hall of Fame is a lack of knowledge of the voters. That's the nicest way that I can put that. A lack of understanding of the legacy of the game.[42] "
"In the offense we won the Super Bowl with in 1999, the foundation was Don Coryell," former Rams coach Dick Vermeil said. "The route philosophies, the vertical passing game ... everything stemmed from the founder, Don Coryell. The genius.[43]"
In 2010, Coryell for the first time was among the 15 finalists considered by the Hall of Fame selection committee on the Saturday before the Super Bowl. He was not selected.[44] After Coryell's passing later that year, Chargers President Dean Spanos said "He revolutionized the game of football, not only in San Diego, but throughout the entire NFL. Don Coryell was a legend not only with the Chargers but throughout San Diego. Though unfortunately he did not live long enough to see it, hopefully one day his bust will find its proper place in Pro Football’s Hall of Fame.[4]" Delivering a eulogy at Coryell's funeral, Madden noted, "You know, I'm sitting down there in front, and next to me is Joe Gibbs, and next to him is Dan Fouts, and the three of us are in the Hall of Fame because of Don Coryell." Choking up and then pausing, he continued, "There's something missing."[45]

With the support of all the guys mentioned in the article I don't see how Coryell could not be voted into the Hall of Fame. So many supporters of a man who revolutionized the game of football. So many who have credited Coryell with the success they had on the field. I hope the voters are listening.
 

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Re: Don coryell...

NEVER should have taken it this long. It should have been done when he was still with us so he and his wife could have enjoyed it. A downright shame it in all respects.

I loved Coryell's aggressiveness. The Cowboys' in the 70's had their tremendous "flex-defense" which was basically designed to stop the run on 1st and 2nd down and force opponents to pass on 3rd and long.

So, what does Don Coryell do? PASS ON 1st DOWN!!! ....Or ANY down for that matter...4th and a foot?...PASS!!!!

My Coryell/Cardiac Cards memories are some of the BEST ones I have regarding Cardinal football.

MARK IN SC :)

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The thing keeping Coryell out is his lack of a championship of any kind. He took the Cards to the Playoffs but couldn't win a game. Then he goes to San Diego and he could only get to the conference championship twice only to lose. 2 of his playoff losses while with SD were at home as well. Also, his head coaching record isn't all that impressive. I often wonder how the Cards would have done had we not melted down against Miami on Thanksgiving in 1977. That game started a snowball effect that didn't abate until 1998.
 

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I'll be pulling for both of these great representatives of the BIG RED to get accepted into the Hall of Fame this year. It would be a great acknowledgement for this franchise this year with the Pro Bowl, and the Super Bowl both being played at UoP Stadium. It would also be very appropriate. C'mon Hall-----Make the Call !!!!!
 

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I'll be pulling for both of these great representatives of the BIG RED to get accepted into the Hall of Fame this year. It would be a great acknowledgement for this franchise this year with the Pro Bowl, and the Super Bowl both being played at UoP Stadium. It would also be very appropriate. C'mon Hall-----Make the Call !!!!!

With you, pal. Coryell was the best Cardinals' passing game HC that I've seen and Warner is the best QB.
 
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With the support of all the guys mentioned in the article I don't see how Coryell could not be voted into the Hall of Fame. So many supporters of a man who revolutionized the game of football. So many who have credited Coryell with the success they had on the field. I hope the voters are listening.

The thing keeping Coryell out is his lack of a championship of any kind. He took the Cards to the Playoffs but couldn't win a game. Then he goes to San Diego and he could only get to the conference championship twice only to lose. 2 of his playoff losses while with SD were at home as well. Also, his head coaching record isn't all that impressive. I often wonder how the Cards would have done had we not melted down against Miami on Thanksgiving in 1977. That game started a snowball effect that didn't abate until 1998.
I doubt Coryell will make it this year with Jimmie Johnson, and his two Super Bowl victories, on the same ballot,. But Coryell certainly should be in the HOF. Not only was he a revolutionary mind in the game, he accomplished what he did with lesser teams personnel-wise than the 1990's Cowboys. Coryell established a .572 regular season winning percentage. Johnson's regular season percentage is .556.
 

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I doubt Coryell will make it this year with Jimmie Johnson, and his two Super Bowl victories, on the same ballot,. But Coryell certainly should be in the HOF. Not only was he a revolutionary mind in the game, he accomplished what he did with lesser teams personnel-wise than the 1990's Cowboys. Coryell established a .572 regular season winning percentage. Johnson's regular season percentage is .556.

Johnson also had a 1-15 first season after the Cowboys cleaned house to start from scratch. I often wonder if Minnesota doesn't sell the farm for Hershel Walker does Dallas have the success it ended up having?
 

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I heard some compelling arguments on the radio yesterday as to why Warner is not a HOF QB. Quick synopsis:

Basically 6 good years, which is not a long time for a QB. RB yes, but not for a QB.

Turnovers.

His successful years were all built around HOF, near HOF players in Faulk, Holt, Pace, Bruce while in St.Louis and Fitz/Boldin in Arizona.

Played in very pass happy offenses when he had success.


They weren't saying he won't get in but that there's plenty to look at and that he's no sure fire first ballot HOF and shouldn't be.
 

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Wouldn't it have been fun to see Warner playing under center on those Coryell teams?

Both deserving IMO.
 

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