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Confident Leinart knows he'll be target in first start

By BOB BAUM, AP Sports Writer
October 4, 2006

AP - Oct 4, 5:08 pm EDT
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TEMPE, Ariz. (AP) -- The starting call has come earlier than expected for Matt Leinart, who went through his first practice as an NFL first-string quarterback on Wednesday.

Leinart capped the session with a little extra work on the field with Edgerrin James, then pronounced himself confident for his first start for Arizona on Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs, although he acknowledged, "They're probably licking their chops with a rookie quarterback coming in."

With costly mistakes plaguing Kurt Warner and the sputtering offense, coach Dennis Green decided to switch to Leinart, who was supposed to spend the entire season learning as a backup.

"This was not our intention. It's not what we wanted," Green said, "but we're 1-3 and just so many turnovers have brought it on."

Leinart has impressed coaches and teammates since he came to the Cardinals after a surprising drop to the No. 10 pick in the draft.

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"I think you've got to understand who Matt Leinart is," Green said. "As far as college football is concerned, I don't know if there's a quarterback in the history of the game who has had as much success on that level."

USC was 37-2 with Leinart at quarterback, earning two national championships and winning a Heisman Trophy for him in 2004. But that was not the NFL, and it wasn't the downtrodden Cardinals, who are off to a 1-3 start for the fourth year in a row and have one winning season since 1984.

"What I want to try to do is not cram everything in and try to do too much," he said. "I'm comfortable with what I'm doing. Really, football is obviously studying your opponent and knowing what you're going to do, but really just playing, just going out there thinking and playing football."

He will operate behind a suspect offensive line that drew a public berating by Green this week. On his weekly radio show, the coach said it was time for the line to "stop whining" and work harder.

As any new quarterback would be expected to do, Leinart defended the line.

`I think they're going to be fine," Leinart said. "I think we just need leadership out there and hopefully I can come in there and just kind of bring a spark. Those guys have talent. We've struggled as an offense, and that's on everybody. That's not just on those guys. I know that they're going to be fine. I have faith in them, and I think they have faith in me.

"And I think we're going to see that this Sunday."

Warner, who has lost starting jobs before to Marc Bulger in St. Louis and Eli Manning with the New York Giants, pledged his support and promised to help Leinart, but said the transition to the pro game is bound to take a while.

"To have a full grasp is going to take a long period of time, and I'm sure Matt's not even close to that yet," Warner said. "How quickly he'll be there? I don't think it will be at least until sometime next year where he feels completely comfortable with everything, relaxed and just can play football."

Leinart, though, said his goal is to do just that right away, and to enjoy it while he's at it.

"I'm not sure what it's like in the huddle when Kurt was in there, but I know the type of guy I am," he said, "going in there talking, keeping the guys motivated, just playing, just having fun. That's what it's all about."

His goal, like the quarterback he replaces, is to get the ball to the team's playmakers: James, Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.

"I think Matt's way ahead of where most guys are when they come in," center Alex Stepanovich said. "I wouldn't say he's arrogant, but he's got a good confidence about him. He knows what he can do and what he can't do, so I think he'll be fine."
 

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I really do think Matt is going to surprise everyone including Warner with how quickly he makes a positive impact. Probably won't be Sunday but much quicker than people expect.

One of the knocks on Matt to date has been that USC was simply so talented that anybody could have gone in there and done that, look at Booty this year, just proves it.

Yet if you really stop and look, Bush is not exactly setting the NFL on fire, White just last week became a regular on a team desperate for RB help, Justice hasn't been active yet this year, Lutui inactive all year. Matua inactive all year.Mike Williams, huge bust up until now. I think Jarrett will be a good player and I have Steve Smith on my list of unsung players I'd like to be a cardinal. Kalil is considered too small to be a top C, Baker will probably be a first rounder at LT. So were they talented, absolutely, but I don't think they were as over the top dominant talented as we all thought I think they just played really well together, were really well coached offensively, and had a couple of breakout talents like Bush and Matt that just put them over the top.
 

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As long as he gets rid of the ball he will do fine. The one thing that I have really noticed is that (news flash) you need a QB that can move in the pocket. Warner provides ZERO mobility. I mean this guy had a hard time stepping up in the pocket. I watched a few other games and that is what really stuck out at me.

Clearly Matt has alot to learn, but reading defenses and holding on to the ball too long won't be problems for him. Remember folks he was audibling after 3 days of camp.
 

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As long as he gets rid of the ball he will do fine. The one thing that I have really noticed is that (news flash) you need a QB that can move in the pocket. Warner provides ZERO mobility. I mean this guy had a hard time stepping up in the pocket. I watched a few other games and that is what really stuck out at me.

Clearly Matt has alot to learn, but reading defenses and holding on to the ball too long won't be problems for him. Remember folks he was audibling after 3 days of camp.


i am not here to be a critic. i am here to say i seen warner move around the pocket more than i have seen do any time in his career. i seen move around and extend the play and throw 2tds that way in the first game againist the 49ers. him moving around wasn't the problem. the problem is that the cardinals offensive line is getting pushed around. edgerrin james only got 41 yards on 20 carries. something is wrong. that is the offensive line. the cardinals need a new center somewhat awful. i don't expect a better game this week eithier. the chiefs are one of the toughest defenses in the league this year. they absoulty destroyed the 49ers. as soon as the offensive line get better so will the cardinals.
 

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Yep, agree on Warner. ZERO mobility. Of course he did scramble from one end of the field to the other TWICE to throw TD's vs. SF but, that wouldn't support your comment...

Unreal...and I love how Leinart is now viewed as a mobile QB... My what the years of losing has done to most of you...
 

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Yep, agree on Warner. ZERO mobility. Of course he did scramble from one end of the field to the other TWICE to throw TD's vs. SF but, that wouldn't support your comment...

Unreal...and I love how Leinart is now viewed as a mobile QB... My what the years of losing has done to most of you...


Go vote for Warner on this thread and join your brethren.

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I have a theory about what's going on with Kurt and the Ol and why we went with Matt that will be tested in the next few weeks.

I noticed it in preseason and in the 49er game that it seems to me we take more short drops with Matt in there than with Kurt. Kurt played in a system with the Rams that didn't do a lot of 3 step drops they were 5 or usually 7 step drops deep in the pocket run the WR's downfield and wait for them to open up. He was deadly accurate, gave his WR's room to run after the catch, but he got his brains beaten in with everyone out in the pattern like that. In the 49er game it was obvious that when we dropped deeper he was deadly, but on the quicker routes he struggled, like on the fumble where he held the ball way too long on a short drop and got sacked by Walt Harris.

I think the Cards realize the OL isn't good enough to protect on deeper routes that take longer to develop so we've been trying to go to more short drops. The problem is Warner has never really been in that system, and Warner isn't very good at that. First off he's 3 inches shorter than Matt and when you take shorter drops, you're closer to the LOS which suddenly makes throwing lanes and angles different and the taller QB gets an advantage(although Matt's INT was a perfect example of a shorter drop getting tipped and picked). I've seen a lot of Kurt pumping and pulling the ball down, like he wants to throw it but isn't sure he has the lane to get it off.

I really think that has a lot do with the change, that the Cards know they don't have the OL to do what Kurt does best, and they think Matt is better suited for the type of offense that this OL can block for?
 

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i am not here to be a critic. i am here to say i seen warner move around the pocket more than i have seen do any time in his career. i seen move around and extend the play and throw 2tds that way in the first game againist the 49ers. him moving around wasn't the problem. the problem is that the cardinals offensive line is getting pushed around. edgerrin james only got 41 yards on 20 carries. something is wrong. that is the offensive line. the cardinals need a new center somewhat awful. i don't expect a better game this week eithier. the chiefs are one of the toughest defenses in the league this year. they absoulty destroyed the 49ers. as soon as the offensive line get better so will the cardinals.


That was game 1. I have rarely seen him move in the pocket since.
 

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I agree Russ I think thats the thinking behind putting Leinart in at this point. Quicker, shorter drops may help this line not look so freakin pathetic. We are gonna dink and dunk ala NE all the way down the field.
 

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I'm telling you guys Warner was killing us. I went back and watched the past two games. The guy was RATTLED after 3 plays last week. He held the ball way too long and missed open receivers. He hardly looked to his right in the first half. Receivers were open! He has played in a cloud. When he did have time to survey the field he threw into double coverage. Warner is finished!

I am not letting the Oline off the hook, but they did give some time and he still made bad plays.

There were other times where he could have easily audibled into a better play but for some reason he didn't. I really don't know what has happened but I would order a scan to see if he has a concussion.
 

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Would a concussion surprise anyone? Honestly he is lucky he is still walking as many hits as this pathetic line let him take!
 

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Yep, agree on Warner. ZERO mobility. Of course he did scramble from one end of the field to the other TWICE to throw TD's vs. SF but, that wouldn't support your comment...

Unreal...and I love how Leinart is now viewed as a mobile QB... My what the years of losing has done to most of you...

People - lets really think before we start writing stuff here. No one is saying Leinart is Michael Vick. What Matt Leinart has is what Tom Brady has: Pocket Presence. Meaning that he feels the rush and makes the requisite two steps up or two steps to the left that buy you extra time to complete a pass. And like Brady he does this all while keeping his eye line down the field. Hes somewhat mobile (unlike Warner who is jogging in gravity boots back there) in that he can scramble for a few yards if a hole opens up for him too. But i don't think anyone thinks hes going to be running alot of naked bootlegs.

The biggest diffrence in Warner and Matt is that Leinart alludes the rush with minor footwork and his eyes dont immediatly focus on the rush when its coming at him. I have only seen Warner stand in one time and make a throw and that was against the Niners. Otherwise he thinks he is going to pull the ball down and out run a linebacker or lineman which is just asnine. Thats why he fumbles so much. We won't have that problem with Leinart.

Now all bets are off if the defense is in the back field as quick as they were on the play Leinart fumbled last week - not even Vick would be able to allude that.

All i ask for is DECENT o-line play. With that i think we can win.
 

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The biggest diffrence in Warner and Matt is that Leinart alludes the rush with minor footwork and his eyes dont immediatly focus on the rush when its coming at him. I have only seen Warner stand in one time and make a throw and that was against the Niners. Otherwise he thinks he is going to pull the ball down and out run a linebacker or lineman which is just asnine. Thats why he fumbles so much. We won't have that problem with Leinart.
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I was with you until this. I may be critical of Warner this year but if there's one thing I would NOT say about Warner, it's that he won't stand in the pocket and make a throw. That's his biggest issue he's so locked in to go downfield he'll hold the ball forever. one thing that you can never question with Warner is toughness, he spent several years in a scheme that got him hit more than any QB in the NFL(because they threw so much with minimum protection).

the problem is if he holds the ball like that he fumbles when he gets hit, and as you say, when he tries to run away, he fumbles anyways.
 

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I was with you until this. I may be critical of Warner this year but if there's one thing I would NOT say about Warner, it's that he won't stand in the pocket and make a throw. That's his biggest issue he's so locked in to go downfield he'll hold the ball forever. one thing that you can never question with Warner is toughness, he spent several years in a scheme that got him hit more than any QB in the NFL(because they threw so much with minimum protection).

the problem is if he holds the ball like that he fumbles when he gets hit, and as you say, when he tries to run away, he fumbles anyways.

Maybe your right Russ. But while he might stand in and take a hit I dont feel like his eyes are downfield. IMO his eyes are on the rush. If he was looking downfield and had awareness of what was going on around him he would throw the ball away more. He just looks freaked and has terrible body language the minute there is penetration. His success came when he was virtually untouched behind that great St. Louis line of 99. But since Martz let that line waste away (the true reason for the Rams degredation) and then on his way to NY and now AZ his main flaw has been all too apparent. He cant handle ANY type of rush. IMO this is the biggest difference between him and Leinart.
 

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Would a concussion surprise anyone? Honestly he is lucky he is still walking as many hits as this pathetic line let him take!

my theory for two weeks.

I think Adams of the 49ers rang his bell in week one on a flagged helmet to helmet hit, as was Will Witherspoon against the Rams, as was Darryl Shropshire of the Falcons.

not an excuse for Warner -- I just think he is not sharp
 

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my theory for two weeks.

I think Adams of the 49ers rang his bell in week one on a flagged helmet to helmet hit, as was Will Witherspoon against the Rams, as was Darryl Shropshire of the Falcons.

not an excuse for Warner -- I just think he is not sharp

Well if Warner was hurt and not close to 100% it would be an excuse. Could be that he has been less than healthy the last 3 games and the Cards had to play him because they had no one else since Navarre is awful and Leinart wasn't ready especially to start against a D like Atlanta's on the road.

It would be just like the year that the Cards played Plummer even though Jake had injured his hand.
 
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