Communism at it's finest

conraddobler

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Were I an economics professor I would love to case study the Cardinals organization.

Here we are shown the bitter fruit of the communist approach in it's end stage.

Does anyone seriously believe that without revenue sharing and if instead the TV money was dolled out on a team by team ratings basis, that Mr. Bidwill would still be running a NFL team?

Now don't get me wrong I believe the cap has done more good than harm generally but as with any good thing there is a flip side that being it has prolonged Bidwills stay way past it's appointed time.

I figure sans the revenue sharing the team would have bought the farm somewhere around the mid 80's or early 90's.

He just isn't in the same league as the other owners and would by now have been 0-16 about 8years running. The draft wouldn't save you now it simply isn't long enough and players would be openly shunning the team by just not signing and going back in the draft the next year.

This would make all the sense in the world since Bidwill would be forced to forgo slotted deals and start enslaving draft picks to save $ since he would have NO FREAKIN REVENUE. Now going back into the draft would make a great deal of sense and he would be summarily screwed.

This would cause the small fan base to dwindle to even more micrscopic proportions and the league would have eventually stepped in to mercifuly fold the team or force its sale even if he still managed to stay financially afloat.

Life is not fair, and I have especially little time to waste feeling for owners that have millions of dollars. The issue of Bidwill caring is so ridiculously moot it's laughable. Who cares if he cares he's incompetent and is only sustained through artificial means "ie TV money"

He may be a great guy, hey I know several and none of them has been blessed by God to own an NFL team either. So how is that fair I ask?

The logical solution would be for everyone to recognize this quit going to the games and force the sale of the team. Or a case could be made just to wait out Bidwill and know someday he will in fact have to sell due to estate taxes.

Neither very attractive but what I suspect most fans will do is bitch and moan and scream and in the end:

Simply ignore the above hardcore too dreary to ever fully come to grips with facts and continue to care cause as fans we are all stuck. You gloom and doomer's are on to something but you haven't thought it all the way through.

It's worse than you imagine much worse but if you going that route you might as well go all the way and just quit caring. So continue to whine albeit much too softly for the true situation calls for you to scream for mercy.

In the end either doom yourself to dreadful failure after failure or stop watching.

Once again life isn't fair.
 
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I really did have a point to all that rant.

A very simple little device would kick Bidwill out from under that rock he is hiding under.

Make the cap a rock hard cap no wiggle room at all.

Make it a min and a max cap ie everyone spends the same.

slot a losing tax..

Just some examples.

ie sub 500 two years running 5 mil gotta give back of the TV money but ya still gotta spend to the cap... lifes a b*tch.

4 wins or less after sub 500 season 10 mil giveback.

It would finish off some teams but just make em sell as part of the charter that should tidy up your non incentive to win nicely.
 

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If I were Bill Gates

or had his money, I would offer Bidwill twice what the team is worth and buy it just to get this team turned around.

If I couldn't do any better, (which is hard to believe) I would sell it to Jerry Colangelo at any price. Jerry knows how to run an organization and make it a winning one at that. It would be worth the $ just to see the Cards dominate and be feared by other teams.

Okay, I'm done fantasyzing now. That's all I have left after years of following the Cards. : (
 

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JC can't buy the team, NFL rules will not allow it.

It's either you can't have baseball and NFL or Basket ball and NFL or something like that.

At least BB doen't get stadium deals done behind closed doors on a friday night, 2 days before the county delares bankruptcy
 

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BTW: The only reason we have competition in the NFL is because of revenue sharing, without it you have Baseball where only about 6 teams have a chance at the title.

Why the h*ll do you think the Yankees win so much, answer they have mmuch more $$ and don't share it with anybody.

No thank you
 

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I would argue a little, not a lot, about whether Colangelo really knows how to win championships. If baseball had a salary cap, the D-Backs wouldn't have won a World Series. Still, he sure is better at getting playoff teams onto the court and field than Bidwill, no doubt about that!
 

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Just change the way money is handed out.

The players still get 64% of the TV money. Any cap money not spent at the end of the season goes to the players. The owner is never allowed to touch the player's money. It goes into a trust, which is paid out to the players by the NFL.

That leaves 36%. Set aside a basic amount that each team uses to run operations. Let's say 16% (just used to make the math easy).


Then, the final 20% is put into a big profitability pot. Each win gets the owner 1 share. At the end of the year, the shares are handed out based on final records. Post season and Superbowl wins get your team extra shares.

If your team goes 0-16, then the owner makes no profit that year.

If those were the rules, Bidwill would still own the team, but he would make very small profits. No teams would go bankrupt.

Bidwill would get tired of not making much money and either figure out how to win, or take the huge profit for selling the team.

Either works for me.
 

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Originally posted by ajcardfan
I would argue a little, not a lot, about whether Colangelo really knows how to win championships. If baseball had a salary cap, the D-Backs wouldn't have won a World Series. Still, he sure is better at getting playoff teams onto the court and field than Bidwill, no doubt about that!

I would say that Jerry knows how to take chances and is not afraid of risk. He has pulled some risky moves and he has come out on top. Bidwill is the opposite. He does not take risks.
 

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Originally posted by nidan
JC can't buy the team, NFL rules will not allow it.

It's either you can't have baseball and NFL or Basket ball and NFL or something like that.

At least BB doen't get stadium deals done behind closed doors on a friday night, 2 days before the county delares bankruptcy

It's got to be major league baseball and the NFL because Paul Allen owns the Seattle Seahawks and Portland Trail Blazers.

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